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plasmabeam 04/13/24 8:56:31 AM #301:	PAYOUTS! Vis, rockus, Bitto, Lightning, and Exdeath all make money while Johnbobb repeats the same mistake he made with Not Another Teen Movie. VEGAS ODDSBOARD: +650 Re-Animator (1985) +750 Fright Night (1985) +900 Possession (1981) +900 Phenomena (1985) +1200 Gremlins (1984) +1500 Videodrome (1983) +1500 Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (1986) +200 Any Other Movie (+2000 if guessed correctly) Current Leaderboard: 1) Inviso $2400 (Creepshow 650, Killer Klowns From Outer Space 600, Sleepaway Camp 650, Basket Case 500) 1) Exdeath $2400 (Creepshow 650, Friday the 13th 500, Killer Klowns From Outer Space 600, Sleepaway Camp 650) 2) Lightning $2300 (Creepshow 650, Friday the 13th 500, Sleepaway Camp 650, Basket Case 500) 3) Bitto $1900 (Creepshow 650, Tetsuo: The Iron Man 600, Sleepaway Camp 650) 4) jcgamer $1200 (Tetsuo: The Iron Man 600, Killer Klowns From Outer Space 600) 5) Johnbobb $1150 (Friday the 13th 500, Sleepaway Camp 650) 6) Seginus $650 (Sleepaway Camp 650) 6) Karo $650 (Sleepaway Camp 650) 6) rockus $650 (Creepshow 650) The House Won On: +1000 Pet Sematary (1989) +1000 Prince of Darkness (1987) +2000 Childs Play (1988) +2000 The Lost Boys (1987) --- ~Jacksonville Jaguars~ <cite>plasmabeam posted [p:979885229] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>PAYOUTS! Vis, rockus, Bitto, Lightning, and Exdeath all make money while Johnbobb repeats the same mistake he made with Not Another Teen Movie.VEGAS ODDSBOARD:+650 Re-Animator (1985)+750 Fright Night (1985)+900 Possession (1981)+900 Phenomena (1985)+1200 Gremlins (1984)+1500 Videodrome (1983)+1500 Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (1986)+200 Any Other Movie (+2000 if guessed correctly)Current Leaderboard:1) Inviso $2400 (Creepshow 650, Killer Klowns From Outer Space 600, Sleepaway Camp 650, Basket Case 500)1) Exdeath $2400 (Creepshow 650, Friday the 13th 500, Killer Klowns From Outer Space 600, Sleepaway Camp 650)2) Lightning $2300 (Creepshow 650, Friday the 13th 500, Sleepaway Camp 650, Basket Case 500)3) Bitto $1900 (Creepshow 650, Tetsuo: The Iron Man 600, Sleepaway Camp 650)4) jcgamer $1200 (Tetsuo: The Iron Man 600, Killer Klowns From Outer Space 600)5) Johnbobb $1150 (Friday the 13th 500, Sleepaway Camp 650)6) Seginus $650 (Sleepaway Camp 650) 6) Karo $650 (Sleepaway Camp 650)6) rockus $650 (Creepshow 650)The House Won On:+1000 Pet Sematary (1989)+1000 Prince of Darkness (1987)+2000 Childs Play (1988)+2000 The Lost Boys (1987) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningStrikes 04/13/24 8:59:25 AM #302:	Going to go for another film not guessed yet and say Christine. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc <cite>LightningStrikes posted [p:979885260] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Going to go for another film not guessed yet and say Christine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rockus 04/13/24 10:36:06 AM #303:	There it is, finally. I don't know what would be next. I pretty much like everything that's left. --- http://thetramp.filmaf.com/owned https://vimeo.com/402818980 <cite>rockus posted [p:979886243] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>There it is, finally. I don't know what would be next. I pretty much like everything that's left. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jcgamer107 04/13/24 10:38:59 AM #304:	Uhhhmmmmm I'll guess Possession again I guess --- azuarc wasn't even home. he was playing Magic the Gathering at his buddy's store, which is extremely easy to verify <cite>jcgamer107 posted [p:979886269] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Uhhhmmmmm I'll guess Possession again I guess </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bitto 04/13/24 11:15:58 AM #305:	Ill guess Phenomena. --- I can't live forever With my head and my heart in the clouds <cite>Bitto posted [p:979886642] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Ill guess Phenomena. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fortybelowsummer 04/13/24 11:25:50 AM #306:	Guessing Fright Night again --- All hail the coming of the Destroyer - the Slayer's time...is now. Live and let live. <cite>fortybelowsummer posted [p:979886773] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Guessing Fright Night again </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningStrikes 04/13/24 11:38:29 AM #307:	The way I see it of the films remaining we can divide them into three groups: The classics (The Shining, An American Werewolf in London, Poltergeist, The Thing, The Dead Zone, Gremlins, A Nightmare on Elm Street, The Fly, Evil Dead II, Predator, Beetlejuice) The acclaimed but potentially divisive due to their nature (Possession, Videodrome, Phenomena, Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer) The well received but not huge critical hits (The Changeling, Christine, Re-Animator, Fright Night, Hellraiser) Looking at those groups, the classics should be safe. In the second group, Phenomena is both not as well received as the other three and just as weird, so I would say it is the most likely to go next. For the rest it seems like Christine, Re-Animator or Fright Night and of those Christine probably has the coolest general reception. So to me it should be either Phenomena or Christine next and I think Christine sounds right. On Creepshow, if it wasnt obvious from my writeup: Something to Tide You Over>The Crate>Theyre Creeping Up On You>Fathers Day>The Lonesome Death of Jordy Verrill Great Leslie Nielsen performance here and not surprised to see him get mentioned a lot. I had a lot of fun with this one and felt it used the pulp comic aesthetic well. The first two shorts werent great but it did win me over with the rest. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc <cite>LightningStrikes posted [p:979886889] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>The way I see it of the films remaining we can divide them into three groups:The classics (The Shining, An American Werewolf in London, Poltergeist, The Thing, The Dead Zone, Gremlins, A Nightmare on Elm Street, The Fly, Evil Dead II, Predator, Beetlejuice)The acclaimed but potentially divisive due to their nature (Possession, Videodrome, Phenomena, Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer)The well received but not huge critical hits (The Changeling, Christine, Re-Animator, Fright Night, Hellraiser)Looking at those groups, the classics should be safe. In the second group, Phenomena is both not as well received as the other three and just as weird, so I would say it is the most likely to go next. For the rest it seems like Christine, Re-Animator or Fright Night and of those Christine probably has the coolest general reception. So to me it should be either Phenomena or Christine next and I think Christine sounds right.On Creepshow, if it wasnt obvious from my writeup:Something to Tide You Over>The Crate>Theyre Creeping Up On You>Fathers Day>The Lonesome Death of Jordy VerrillGreat Leslie Nielsen performance here and not surprised to see him get mentioned a lot. I had a lot of fun with this one and felt it used the pulp comic aesthetic well. The first two shorts werent great but it did win me over with the rest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnbobb 04/13/24 11:58:28 AM #308:	I'm gonna go for big money and say The Changeling for 2000 --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs <cite>Johnbobb posted [p:979887135] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>I'm gonna go for big money and say The Changeling for 2000 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 04/13/24 12:43:41 PM #309:	I thought Fright Night has a Rotten Tomatoes score in the 90s? I know Gene Siskel didn't recommend it but still. --- Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders? <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:979887651] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>I thought Fright Night has a Rotten Tomatoes score in the 90s? I know Gene Siskel didn't recommend it but still. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 04/13/24 12:44:50 PM #310:	Inviso posted... I just think "scientist trying to make a groundbreaking invention" is much more of a straightforward and standard character than "asshole TV executive is trying to find the most violent and/or softcore porn programming possible to get ratings". The former makes for a much more rational and sensical storyline, whereas the latter has to jump through so many hoops to get from point A to B to C. It works in Scrooged because the plot is that this asshole is meant to become a better person over the course of the film. But here, Woods' character arc isn't him really changing so much as multiple people are using him as a conduit for their ideological battle. More for the sake of discussion than trying to defend a movie I haven't even seen (but which I am curious about), but I get the feeling Videodrome isn't really a movie about character. That could admittedly be seen as a problem though. --- Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders? <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:979887662] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Inviso posted... </cite><quote>I just think "scientist trying to make a groundbreaking invention" is much more of a straightforward and standard character than "asshole TV executive is trying to find the most violent and/or softcore porn programming possible to get ratings". The former makes for a much more rational and sensical storyline, whereas the latter has to jump through so many hoops to get from point A to B to C. It works in Scrooged because the plot is that this asshole is meant to become a better person over the course of the film. But here, Woods' character arc isn't him really changing so much as multiple people are using him as a conduit for their ideological battle.</quote>More for the sake of discussion than trying to defend a movie I haven't even seen (but which I am curious about), but I get the feeling Videodrome isn't really a movie about character. That could admittedly be seen as a problem though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evillordexdeath 04/13/24 12:46:56 PM #311:	I'll take Re-Animator --- I'm playing every game from GotD 2020! Games Completed: 20/129 (Currently on Hiatus) <cite>Evillordexdeath posted [p:979887679] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>I'll take Re-Animator </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evillordexdeath 04/13/24 12:48:50 PM #312:	LinkMarioSamus posted... I thought Fright Night has a Rotten Tomatoes score in the 90s? I know Gene Siskel didn't recommend it but still. Fright Night is the best non-artsy movie on this list by a lot so I'm really surprised people are already predicting it but then again my taste in movies isn't very representative of B8 as a whole --- I'm playing every game from GotD 2020! Games Completed: 20/129 (Currently on Hiatus) <cite>Evillordexdeath posted [p:979887703] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>LinkMarioSamus posted... </cite><quote>I thought Fright Night has a Rotten Tomatoes score in the 90s? I know Gene Siskel didn't recommend it but still.</quote>Fright Night is the best non-artsy movie on this list by a lot so I'm really surprised people are already predicting it but then again my taste in movies isn't very representative of B8 as a whole </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningStrikes 04/13/24 12:58:59 PM #313:	Fright Night has an 83% RT score from 63 reviews which is not exceptional but solid and better than some remaining movies. I was also a bit surprised it was getting predicted so soon. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc <cite>LightningStrikes posted [p:979887813] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Fright Night has an 83% RT score from 63 reviews which is not exceptional but solid and better than some remaining movies. I was also a bit surprised it was getting predicted so soon. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Snake5555555555 04/13/24 1:31:53 PM #314:	20. The Changeling (1980 / 233 points) Directed by: Peter Medak / Screenplay by: William Gray, Diana Maddox https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d7d66960.jpg Why Its Significant - I couldnt think of a better film to bridge the 70s & 80s decades than The Changeling. Wildly influential, I best describe The Changeling as your favorite directors favorite horror movie. Haunted house movies were a staple of the 70s but became less prevalent in the 80s. So, The Changeling at once feels like a relic but also a stand-out of the 80s canon, opposite of the graphic violence seen in slashers and body horror. The film delves into the psychological impact of grief, showcasing how the lines between reality and the supernatural can blur for someone consumed by sorrow, all while suggestion-heavy framing and a masterful use of sound design creates an intense, unsettling atmosphere. This focus on psychological horror by way of family agony paved the way for future films like Hereditary, Mike Flanagans (who is on record saying this is the scariest film of all time) Haunting series, Crimson Peak, and even The Babadook. Even directors who have only flirted with the horror genre like Martin Scorsese acknowledge its unique terrifying influence on his work in films like Cape Fear and Shutter Island. Its an unexpected monolith of horror, a film that continues to inspire and terrify audiences decades after its release. The Changeling never received an official sequel, but Until Death, a 1988 made-for-TV horror film directed by Italian cult filmmaker Lamberto Bava, was marketed as such for some reason! The Rankers Karo - 8 Evilordexdeath - 11 Plasmabeam - 12 Bitto - 14 Lightning - 14 Mythiot - 14 Jcgamer107 - 15 Inviso - 20 Rockus - 20 Seginustemple - 23 Johnbobb - 24 Fortybelowsummer - 27 Snake - 30 Karo - A grieving composer rents a gigantic old mansion that nobody wants and of course it doesn't come with a vengeful spirit of a murdered child or anything like that. It is a fairly standard haunted house tale, but is presented in a way that provides some good atmosphere and resists the urge to blow its load too early. It's a great example of tell, don't show. Too quick to reveal your monster and it will lose a lot of its scariness. Although I feel the title is misleading at best, committing fraud and living off someone else's fortune doesnt make you a 'changeling', it just makes you Donald Trump. Still it is a sold suspense movie that avoids most of the pratfalls of todays horror, and I have to say they just dont make em like they used to. Evilordexdeath - Pretty solid flick with not too much to complain about, besides a slightly cheesy overdone ending (especially that wheelchair chase scene) that also doesn't resolve the story in a very satisfying way. It was well-paced, there was a nice little intrigue in the middle section, and I liked the detail of the main character being a composer and how the musical elements added specificity to the story. It maybe suffers a little from trying to balance a spooky ghost story and an investigation about an old murder that was covered up, preventing either aspect from getting enough focus to really stand out. There are some rather gripping scenes brought through by solid acting, particularly the seance scene and the medium lady. Overall I enjoyed watching it and could probably see it again, but it isn't a film that excited passion in me, either positive or negative. Plasmabeam - A slow burn for sure, but I found this one to be engaging for the most part. Satisfying journey with the grieving protagonist trying to find peace by revealing the truth about another childs death. Bitto - Rating: C Really more of a mystery than a horror, but that's fine. I like mysteries way more. I really like the idea of solving the mystery of a haunted house and the mystery is fine. All the characters are grounded (except for the random part where John feels the best idea of confronting Carmichael is by screaming at him at the airport lmao). I like that Carmichael isn't some comical villain and deals with John's confrontation with confusion, anger, but also curiosity. I like that Joseph isn't calmed by the effects of Carmichael and still gets upset. I just...don't like the full product, I guess? The plot isn't super memorable, the characters aren't either, and neither are the shots. Lightning - None of this belongs to you! The Changeling stands out among 1980s horror films as something from a different era, it is very much in the style of older ghost films and stories such as the work of M R James, and lacks most of the gloss and style that would come to be associated with 80s horror. There are no final girls, exciting chases, or witty quips, it is more creeping dread, a mystery to be solved, and decidedly middle aged, more academic protagonists. The aesthetics too have more in common with the horror of the 1970s than the decade this released at the very start of. All of this works in the films favour as it leverages this slightly stuffy style to create an intriguing slow burn mystery with elements of a morality play to it. This is a film without much in the way of big scares but a firm sense of creeping unease throughout. There are several frightening moments, such as the initial contact with the ghost or the ball coming down the stairs but most of the tension and atmosphere instead comes from the tragic mystery being revealed, interleaved with George C Scotts John Russells own tragedy in his recent past. Although the film rarely mentions the tragedy that opens it after the first act, you can feel it motivating its lead throughout. Overall this is an enjoyable, very classically styled ghost story. It does unfortunately fall into a few of the pitfalls common of earlier films in the ghost subgenre, for instance the female lead is mostly just there to be a hysterical shrieking woman, and the ending ultimately feels fairly anticlimactic. Despite these shortcomings this film represents a classic style of slow burn movie about a haunting that mixes mystery and horror that you rarely see anymore. 4/5 Jcgamer107 - 6/10 --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me <cite>Snake5555555555 posted [p:979888225] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>20. The Changeling (1980 / 233 points)Directed by: Peter Medak / Screenplay by: William Gray, Diana Maddoxhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d7d66960.jpgWhy Its Significant - I couldnt think of a better film to bridge the 70s & 80s decades than The Changeling. Wildly influential, I best describe The Changeling as your favorite directors favorite horror movie. Haunted house movies were a staple of the 70s but became less prevalent in the 80s. So, The Changeling at once feels like a relic but also a stand-out of the 80s canon, opposite of the graphic violence seen in slashers and body horror. The film delves into the psychological impact of grief, showcasing how the lines between reality and the supernatural can blur for someone consumed by sorrow, all while suggestion-heavy framing and a masterful use of sound design creates an intense, unsettling atmosphere. This focus on psychological horror by way of family agony paved the way for future films like Hereditary, Mike Flanagans (who is on record saying this is the scariest film of all time) Haunting series, Crimson Peak, and even The Babadook. Even directors who have only flirted with the horror genre like Martin Scorsese acknowledge its unique terrifying influence on his work in films like Cape Fear and Shutter Island. Its an unexpected monolith of horror, a film that continues to inspire and terrify audiences decades after its release. The Changeling never received an official sequel, but Until Death, a 1988 made-for-TV horror film directed by Italian cult filmmaker Lamberto Bava, was marketed as such for some reason!The RankersKaro - 8 Evilordexdeath - 11Plasmabeam - 12Bitto - 14Lightning - 14Mythiot - 14Jcgamer107 - 15Inviso - 20Rockus - 20Seginustemple - 23Johnbobb - 24Fortybelowsummer - 27Snake - 30Karo - A grieving composer rents a gigantic old mansion that nobody wants and of course it doesn't come with a vengeful spirit of a murdered child or anything like that.It is a fairly standard haunted house tale, but is presented in a way that provides some good atmosphere and resists the urge to blow its load too early. It's a great example of tell, don't show. Too quick to reveal your monster and it will lose a lot of its scariness.Although I feel the title is misleading at best, committing fraud and living off someone else's fortune doesnt make you a 'changeling', it just makes you Donald Trump.Still it is a sold suspense movie that avoids most of the pratfalls of todays horror, and I have to say they just dont make em like they used to.Evilordexdeath - Pretty solid flick with not too much to complain about, besides a slightly cheesy overdone ending (especially that wheelchair chase scene) that also doesn't resolve the story in a very satisfying way. It was well-paced, there was a nice little intrigue in the middle section, and I liked the detail of the main character being a composer and how the musical elements added specificity to the story. It maybe suffers a little from trying to balance a spooky ghost story and an investigation about an old murder that was covered up, preventing either aspect from getting enough focus to really stand out. There are some rather gripping scenes brought through by solid acting, particularly the seance scene and the medium lady. Overall I enjoyed watching it and could probably see it again, but it isn't a film that excited passion in me, either positive or negative.Plasmabeam - A slow burn for sure, but I found this one to be engaging for the most part. Satisfying journey with the grieving protagonist trying to find peace by revealing the truth about another childs death.Bitto - Rating: CReally more of a mystery than a horror, but that's fine. I like mysteries way more. I really like the idea of solving the mystery of a haunted house and the mystery is fine. All the characters are grounded (except for the random part where John feels the best idea of confronting Carmichael is by screaming at him at the airport lmao). I like that Carmichael isn't some comical villain and deals with John's confrontation with confusion, anger, but also curiosity. I like that Joseph isn't calmed by the effects of Carmichael and still gets upset. I just...don't like the full product, I guess? The plot isn't super memorable, the characters aren't either, and neither are the shots.Lightning - None of this belongs to you!The Changeling stands out among 1980s horror films as something from a different era, it is very much in the style of older ghost films and stories such as the work of M R James, and lacks most of the gloss and style that would come to be associated with 80s horror. There are no final girls, exciting chases, or witty quips, it is more creeping dread, a mystery to be solved, and decidedly middle aged, more academic protagonists. The aesthetics too have more in common with the horror of the 1970s than the decade this released at the very start of. All of this works in the films favour as it leverages this slightly stuffy style to create an intriguing slow burn mystery with elements of a morality play to it.This is a film without much in the way of big scares but a firm sense of creeping unease throughout. There are several frightening moments, such as the initial contact with the ghost or the ball coming down the stairs but most of the tension and atmosphere instead comes from the tragic mystery being revealed, interleaved with George C Scotts John Russells own tragedy in his recent past. Although the film rarely mentions the tragedy that opens it after the first act, you can feel it motivating its lead throughout.Overall this is an enjoyable, very classically styled ghost story. It does unfortunately fall into a few of the pitfalls common of earlier films in the ghost subgenre, for instance the female lead is mostly just there to be a hysterical shrieking woman, and the ending ultimately feels fairly anticlimactic. Despite these shortcomings this film represents a classic style of slow burn movie about a haunting that mixes mystery and horror that you rarely see anymore.4/5Jcgamer107 - 6/10 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Snake5555555555 04/13/24 1:32:05 PM #315:	Inviso - This was an okay movie. It started slow (other than the REALLY cheesy with the almost comical opening scene of a guy watching his family get run over by a snow plow while hes trapped in a phone booth in the middle of nowhere), but around the middle of the movie, I started to get interested. Ive seen enough haunting or exorcism films to be intrigued by a movie where the ghost doesnt seem inherently maliciousat least at the start. This is just a murdered child that seeks justice for his death, and the general investigative aspect of the film was really interesting to me. From the sance to the library, to the map records, I liked watching our main character trying to piece together the events that led to his house becoming haunted. And its all great, right up until he finds the medallion. Thats when the film kinda loses me a little bit. The third act of the film revolves around the revelation that Joseph was the son of a wealthy industrialist in the early 1900s, but he was also sickly and unlikely to live to adulthoodso his father killed him and adopted an orphan boy as his replacement. That orphan grew up to be a powerful senator, so theres this whole subplot about the senator abusing his power out of fear of being blackmailed, complete with a cop getting killed supernaturally, and the ghost of child Joseph suddenly turns more classically evil for a haunting ghost, and winds up attacking the main character, his partner, and killing the senator while burning the house down. The movie just shifts direction far too aggressively at the end, and it led to a less enjoyable finale for me. Rockus - A pretty traditional haunted house film, almost stubbornly old fashioned. But there are some nice moments that spice things up like a neat little stop motion shot after they dig up the remains in the spot of the old well and some big pyrotechnics in the finale. It mostly unfolds like a pretty solid drama. There are some dense plot exposition dumps at one point but theyre thankfully delivered right before the climax to get them out of the way as not to clutter things up in the final twenty minutes or so. George C. Scott is rather good in it and it ended up being a pretty solid ghost movie. A satisfying watch. Seginustemple - I appreciate the old-school nature of this one, straightforward haunted house fare that isn't meta or tongue-in-cheek, no cheap scares or dazzling with effects. It's all very stately and serious...maybe a little stale. George C. Scott is a pro, almost too cool in the lead role. I wonder if someone who comes off a little more vulnerable could be more effective. The first half is promising and includes a fantastic seance the movie can hang its hat on, but the last half gets bogged down trying to get to the bottom of the ghost child's story...which leads to an adopted surrogate, and wrong kid died, but ultimately I just don't care that the rich old guy turns out to be a false heir because he already lived his life and none of this was really his fault anyway. What was the point of punishing him at the end? The drama of that is lost on me. Johnbobb - You know, the moment this movie started, I saw the happy family and thought "this is gonna be one of those horror movies that kills off the kid, huh? They did not miss a beat. The Changeling builds a little slowly and dryly at times, but when the creepiness hits, it hits hard. Russell screaming up at the empty house while the doors slam that he's done all he could really cements how effective it is as a haunted house Fortybelowsummer - Gah, why couldnt this have been made in 1979. Just kidding, I had seen it before anyway and its not that bad although I anticipate it staying in my bottom five. You cant go wrong with a big ol haunted house, and this one comes complete with a creepy kiddy wheelchair in the attic. Theres a decent amount of suspense and scary imagery as its revealed what the deal is with the ominous goings-on at the house. I watched this and Exorcist III in the same week and it made me realize that George C. Scott is the man. He has a presence that elevates whatever hes in. The thing is though, here hes so somber, subdued, and matter of fact in his investigation that it kind of takes away any real sense of peril. I never felt that worried for him, that he faced any danger that was a true mortal threat. The way the mystery unravels is also pretty outlandish and the whole thing left me feeling underwhelmed overall. This is one of those movies that seems to have overwhelming positive reactions, but I just dont see it. Snake - So, fake horror fanatic alert here, but I had never actually seen this film before this project. And well - it was underwhelming after hyping it up in my head for so long. The Changeling aspires to be a classic haunted house horror, but ultimately fumbles the scares with a slow pace and a strangely detached protagonist. The pacing here is glacial, and many of the events are extremely mundane. Slow burn films have to be executed to perfection otherwise they just end up being bore-fests like The Changeling. I never felt like John Russell was in peril, which lessens the film's impact, as he never feels truly scared, approaching the ghostly activity with a professorial curiosity that undermines all the tension that gets set up at every turn. This is probably scary if this is the first haunted house movie youve ever seen in your life, but otherwise, I rather think this is a film better left in the dusty attic of the 80s. --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me <cite>Snake5555555555 posted [p:979888227] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Inviso - This was an okay movie. It started slow (other than the REALLY cheesy with the almost comical opening scene of a guy watching his family get run over by a snow plow while hes trapped in a phone booth in the middle of nowhere), but around the middle of the movie, I started to get interested. Ive seen enough haunting or exorcism films to be intrigued by a movie where the ghost doesnt seem inherently maliciousat least at the start. This is just a murdered child that seeks justice for his death, and the general investigative aspect of the film was really interesting to me. From the sance to the library, to the map records, I liked watching our main character trying to piece together the events that led to his house becoming haunted. And its all great, right up until he finds the medallion. Thats when the film kinda loses me a little bit.The third act of the film revolves around the revelation that Joseph was the son of a wealthy industrialist in the early 1900s, but he was also sickly and unlikely to live to adulthoodso his father killed him and adopted an orphan boy as his replacement. That orphan grew up to be a powerful senator, so theres this whole subplot about the senator abusing his power out of fear of being blackmailed, complete with a cop getting killed supernaturally, and the ghost of child Joseph suddenly turns more classically evil for a haunting ghost, and winds up attacking the main character, his partner, and killing the senator while burning the house down. The movie just shifts direction far too aggressively at the end, and it led to a less enjoyable finale for me.Rockus - A pretty traditional haunted house film, almost stubbornly old fashioned. But there are some nice moments that spice things up like a neat little stop motion shot after they dig up the remains in the spot of the old well and some big pyrotechnics in the finale. It mostly unfolds like a pretty solid drama. There are some dense plot exposition dumps at one point but theyre thankfully delivered right before the climax to get them out of the way as not to clutter things up in the final twenty minutes or so. George C. Scott is rather good in it and it ended up being a pretty solid ghost movie. A satisfying watch.Seginustemple - I appreciate the old-school nature of this one, straightforward haunted house fare that isn't meta or tongue-in-cheek, no cheap scares or dazzling with effects. It's all very stately and serious...maybe a little stale. George C. Scott is a pro, almost too cool in the lead role. I wonder if someone who comes off a little more vulnerable could be more effective. The first half is promising and includes a fantastic seance the movie can hang its hat on, but the last half gets bogged down trying to get to the bottom of the ghost child's story...which leads to an adopted surrogate, and wrong kid died, but ultimately I just don't care that the rich old guy turns out to be a false heir because he already lived his life and none of this was really his fault anyway. What was the point of punishing him at the end? The drama of that is lost on me.Johnbobb - You know, the moment this movie started, I saw the happy family and thought "this is gonna be one of those horror movies that kills off the kid, huh? They did not miss a beat. The Changeling builds a little slowly and dryly at times, but when the creepiness hits, it hits hard. Russell screaming up at the empty house while the doors slam that he's done all he could really cements how effective it is as a haunted houseFortybelowsummer - Gah, why couldnt this have been made in 1979. Just kidding, I had seen it before anyway and its not that bad although I anticipate it staying in my bottom five. You cant go wrong with a big ol haunted house, and this one comes complete with a creepy kiddy wheelchair in the attic. Theres a decent amount of suspense and scary imagery as its revealed what the deal is with the ominous goings-on at the house. I watched this and Exorcist III in the same week and it made me realize that George C. Scott is the man. He has a presence that elevates whatever hes in. The thing is though, here hes so somber, subdued, and matter of fact in his investigation that it kind of takes away any real sense of peril. I never felt that worried for him, that he faced any danger that was a true mortal threat. The way the mystery unravels is also pretty outlandish and the whole thing left me feeling underwhelmed overall. This is one of those movies that seems to have overwhelming positive reactions, but I just dont see it.Snake - So, fake horror fanatic alert here, but I had never actually seen this film before this project. And well - it was underwhelming after hyping it up in my head for so long. The Changeling aspires to be a classic haunted house horror, but ultimately fumbles the scares with a slow pace and a strangely detached protagonist. The pacing here is glacial, and many of the events are extremely mundane. Slow burn films have to be executed to perfection otherwise they just end up being bore-fests like The Changeling. I never felt like John Russell was in peril, which lessens the film's impact, as he never feels truly scared, approaching the ghostly activity with a professorial curiosity that undermines all the tension that gets set up at every turn. This is probably scary if this is the first haunted house movie youve ever seen in your life, but otherwise, I rather think this is a film better left in the dusty attic of the 80s. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnbobb 04/13/24 1:41:32 PM #316:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6c3e0564.jpg --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs <cite>Johnbobb posted [p:979888340] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6c3e0564.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Snake5555555555 04/13/24 1:42:38 PM #317:	Nice prediction! --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me <cite>Snake5555555555 posted [p:979888348] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Nice prediction! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnbobb 04/13/24 1:43:17 PM #318:	you know on a list full of some very wacky and over-the-top horror, you'd think a slower and more serious one would be a good change of pace, but man it missed the mark for me the haunted house itself was done well but it was definitely one of the more forgettable entries --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs <cite>Johnbobb posted [p:979888359] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>you know on a list full of some very wacky and over-the-top horror, you'd think a slower and more serious one would be a good change of pace, but man it missed the mark for methe haunted house itself was done well but it was definitely one of the more forgettable entries </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Snake5555555555 04/13/24 1:46:59 PM #319:	I know! Like I said in my write-up, I was looking forward to this one so much! And I do genuinely love slow-burn films a lot. Some of my favorite horror ever is like that. But I felt like was watching a checklist of haunted house tropes more than anything. --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me <cite>Snake5555555555 posted [p:979888401] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>I know! Like I said in my write-up, I was looking forward to this one so much! And I do genuinely love slow-burn films a lot. Some of my favorite horror ever is like that. But I felt like was watching a checklist of haunted house tropes more than anything. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rockus 04/13/24 1:48:26 PM #320:	Precisely where it belongs I suppose. --- http://thetramp.filmaf.com/owned https://vimeo.com/402818980 <cite>rockus posted [p:979888418] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Precisely where it belongs I suppose. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Snake5555555555 04/13/24 2:00:26 PM #321:	Outlier Fortybelowsummer - 106 Karo - 90 Jcgamer107 - 83 Inviso - 77 Evilordexdeath - 74 Johnbobb - 70 Seginustemple - 67 Snake - 61 Bitto - 56 Rockus - 55 Mythiot - 50 Plasmabeam - 46 Lightning - 43 I didn't forget the outlier for Creepshow I was just doing an anthology thing. Yeah that's it. Karo's been going through the ringer with the rankings lately! --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me <cite>Snake5555555555 posted [p:979888598] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>OutlierFortybelowsummer - 106Karo - 90Jcgamer107 - 83Inviso - 77Evilordexdeath - 74Johnbobb - 70Seginustemple - 67Snake - 61Bitto - 56Rockus - 55Mythiot - 50Plasmabeam - 46Lightning - 43I didn't forget the outlier for Creepshow I was just doing an anthology thing. Yeah that's it. Karo's been going through the ringer with the rankings lately! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
plasmabeam 04/13/24 2:26:10 PM #322:	Of course Johnbobb breaks the casino's back right after I mock him for picking Gremlins one too many times. Of course. VEGAS ODDSBOARD: +600 Re-Animator (1985) +700 Fright Night (1985) +800 Christine (1983) +1000 Possession (1981) +1000 Phenomena (1985) +1200 Gremlins (1984) +1500 Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (1986) +200 Any Other Movie (+2000 if guessed correctly) Current Leaderboard: 1) Johnbobb $3150 (The Changeling 2000, Friday the 13th 500, Sleepaway Camp 650) 2) Inviso $2400 (Creepshow 650, Killer Klowns From Outer Space 600, Sleepaway Camp 650, Basket Case 500) 2) Exdeath $2400 (Creepshow 650, Friday the 13th 500, Killer Klowns From Outer Space 600, Sleepaway Camp 650) 3) Lightning $2300 (Creepshow 650, Friday the 13th 500, Sleepaway Camp 650, Basket Case 500) 4) Bitto $1900 (Creepshow 650, Tetsuo: The Iron Man 600, Sleepaway Camp 650) 5) jcgamer $1200 (Tetsuo: The Iron Man 600, Killer Klowns From Outer Space 600) 6) Seginus $650 (Sleepaway Camp 650) 6) Karo $650 (Sleepaway Camp 650) 6) rockus $650 (Creepshow 650) The House Won On: +1000 Pet Sematary (1989) +1000 Prince of Darkness (1987) +2000 Childs Play (1988) +2000 The Lost Boys (1987) --- ~Jacksonville Jaguars~ <cite>plasmabeam posted [p:979888960] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Of course Johnbobb breaks the casino's back right after I mock him for picking Gremlins one too many times. Of course.VEGAS ODDSBOARD:+600 Re-Animator (1985)+700 Fright Night (1985)+800 Christine (1983)+1000 Possession (1981)+1000 Phenomena (1985)+1200 Gremlins (1984)+1500 Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (1986)+200 Any Other Movie (+2000 if guessed correctly)Current Leaderboard:1) Johnbobb $3150 (The Changeling 2000, Friday the 13th 500, Sleepaway Camp 650)2) Inviso $2400 (Creepshow 650, Killer Klowns From Outer Space 600, Sleepaway Camp 650, Basket Case 500)2) Exdeath $2400 (Creepshow 650, Friday the 13th 500, Killer Klowns From Outer Space 600, Sleepaway Camp 650)3) Lightning $2300 (Creepshow 650, Friday the 13th 500, Sleepaway Camp 650, Basket Case 500)4) Bitto $1900 (Creepshow 650, Tetsuo: The Iron Man 600, Sleepaway Camp 650)5) jcgamer $1200 (Tetsuo: The Iron Man 600, Killer Klowns From Outer Space 600)6) Seginus $650 (Sleepaway Camp 650) 6) Karo $650 (Sleepaway Camp 650)6) rockus $650 (Creepshow 650)The House Won On:+1000 Pet Sematary (1989)+1000 Prince of Darkness (1987)+2000 Childs Play (1988)+2000 The Lost Boys (1987) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnbobb 04/13/24 2:31:38 PM #323:	I'll say Possession this time --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs <cite>Johnbobb posted [p:979889031] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>I'll say Possession this time </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Espeon 04/13/24 2:51:21 PM #324:	Gonna guess Henry. --- Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever http://i.imgur.com/SSw6M9E.gif <cite>Espeon posted [p:979889256] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Gonna guess Henry. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evillordexdeath 04/13/24 3:03:15 PM #325:	Sticking with Re-Animator --- I'm playing every game from GotD 2020! Games Completed: 20/129 (Currently on Hiatus) <cite>Evillordexdeath posted [p:979889379] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Sticking with Re-Animator </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 04/13/24 3:40:01 PM #326:	Only George C. Scott movie I've seen is Doctor Strangelove, which I did like a lot. What movies on this list have I seen? Hmm, The Shining, Poltergeist, The Fly, Predator, Beetlejuice, that it? Oh, An American Werewolf in London and The Thing. Did we ever do a '90s action movie ranking by chance? If we haven't it would be a nice excuse to see what you guys think of movies like Point Break, The Last Boy Scout, Passenger 57, Under Siege 1 & 2, Cliffhanger, The Fugitive, Demolition Man, Speed (and maybe its ill-fated sequel also), Blown Away, True Lies, The Specialist, Sudden Death, Broken Arrow, Executive Decision, Eraser, The Rock, Con Air, Face/Off, Air Force One, Hard Rain, The Replacement Killers, Rush Hour, and uh End of Days? Assuming we discount movies that are part of long-running franchises, so no RoboCop, Die Hard, Lethal Weapon, or Matrix movies. --- Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders? <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:979889837] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Only George C. Scott movie I've seen is Doctor Strangelove, which I did like a lot.What movies on this list have I seen? Hmm, The Shining, Poltergeist, The Fly, Predator, Beetlejuice, that it? Oh, An American Werewolf in London and The Thing.Did we ever do a '90s action movie ranking by chance? If we haven't it would be a nice excuse to see what you guys think of movies like Point Break, The Last Boy Scout, Passenger 57, Under Siege 1 & 2, Cliffhanger, The Fugitive, Demolition Man, Speed (and maybe its ill-fated sequel also), Blown Away, True Lies, The Specialist, Sudden Death, Broken Arrow, Executive Decision, Eraser, The Rock, Con Air, Face/Off, Air Force One, Hard Rain, The Replacement Killers, Rush Hour, and uh End of Days? Assuming we discount movies that are part of long-running franchises, so no RoboCop, Die Hard, Lethal Weapon, or Matrix movies. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Seginustemple 04/13/24 4:15:57 PM #327:	Glad I'm not the only one who found George C. Scott too unflappable in the lead role. And shouldn't I get 200 for guessing Changeling in the 21st slot? I'll take another shot in the dark this time because I don't believe in The Dead Zone --- You bow to no one, azuarc <cite>Seginustemple posted [p:979890312] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Glad I'm not the only one who found George C. Scott too unflappable in the lead role. And shouldn't I get 200 for guessing Changeling in the 21st slot? I'll take another shot in the dark this time because I don't believe in The Dead Zone </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bitto 04/13/24 4:48:14 PM #328:	Oh damn, winning it big on Changeling. Yeah, we're at a point where there doesn't seem to be any obvious falls. Changeling is fine, if somewhat unremarkable. I'll go for Hellraiser. --- I can't live forever With my head and my heart in the clouds <cite>Bitto posted [p:979890797] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Oh damn, winning it big on Changeling. Yeah, we're at a point where there doesn't seem to be any obvious falls. Changeling is fine, if somewhat unremarkable.I'll go for Hellraiser. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fortybelowsummer 04/13/24 7:10:42 PM #329:	I'll keep the different guesses train going with...Christine. --- All hail the coming of the Destroyer - the Slayer's time...is now. Live and let live. <cite>fortybelowsummer posted [p:979892839] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>I'll keep the different guesses train going with...Christine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningStrikes 04/13/24 7:35:36 PM #330:	Sticking with Christine. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc <cite>LightningStrikes posted [p:979893201] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Sticking with Christine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Snake5555555555 04/13/24 7:56:10 PM #331:	Ranking #2 will be a little later than usual tonight --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me <cite>Snake5555555555 posted [p:979893487] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Ranking #2 will be a little later than usual tonight </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Snake5555555555 04/13/24 10:10:37 PM #332:	19. An American Werewolf in London (1981 / 230 points) Directed / Written by: John Landis https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/308daf22.jpg Why Its Significant - It's not just a werewolf movie with one of the most memorable transformation scenes in the entire genre (one that also earned Rick Baker the first-ever Oscar for Best Makeup), but John Landis (who was previously most known for directing screwball comedy films) combined horror & comedy that directly paved the way for films like The Lost Boys, Fright Night, Scream, Shaun of the Dead, and countless others. Despite the comedy leanings though, An American Werewolf proved something The Wolf Man tried to all those decades ago - that becoming a werewolf is agonizingly painful and grotesquely physical, the psychological toll and isolation of being a monster arguably on the forefront more than even the comedy aspects. An American Werewolf in Londons success led directly to John Landis and Rick Baker being chosen by Michael Jackson to create the iconic Thriller music video, and the film received a sequel, radio adaptation, documentary film, is alluded to in John Landis Masters of Horror film Deer Woman, and an unauthorized Bollywood loose remake. The Rankers Evilordexdeath - 9 Snake - 11 Rockus - 12 Plasmabeam - 13 Bitto - 15 Jcgamer107 - 16 Johnbobb - 16 Inviso - 18 Lightning - 21 Karo - 23 Mythiot - 24 Seginustemple - 24 Fortybelowsummer - 28 Evilordexdeath - I watched this film in my teens for reasons other than its status as a horror film. What I remembered, before watching it again for this list, were the transformation scenes, the sex scenes which were way more explicit than I was used to at the time, the downer ending, and, for me the most representative of the movie: the sequence where the werewolf main character, after having transformed and rampaged the night before, wakes up naked in a wolf pit at the zoo and has to streak back home covering his balls with funny objects and camera angles. Sometimes when a film is labeled as a horror-comedy it comes off like Tommy Wiseau retroactively dubbing The Room a Black Comedy - that's to say the movie is just an attempt a horror so awkward and stilted it's kind of funny. This is definitely not that kind of movie. There are parts in here that are clearly supposed to be horror and a lot of parts that are obviously intended as comedy. The clearest examples of this are the aforementioned nude running sequence and a part near the end where David talks to the ghosts of his victims in a porno theater about how he should kill himself to end the werewolf curse keeping them undead, with repeated cuts to a porn parody movie where things like someone calling the lead actress with the wrong number and a man walking in on two lovers as if one of them is cheating on them, them responding that neither of them has ever seen him before, and him simply apologizing and leaving the room take place. In the end, I'd say it ends up being more of a comedy than a horror with the climactic sequence having a big silly chain car-crash caused by people panicking at seeing the werewolf ragdoll more bodies around than the beast itself actually mauls. On the horror side, the most tense scenes are the ones set in Northern England where distrustful Yorkshiremen issue vague and creepy warnings to the boys and later the doctor. They have a definite sense of social anxiety to them. While the werewolf rampages don't really chill me to the bone, the special effects in this are damned impressive, both for the TF sequence and the ghostly visits from the main character's dead friend, who becomes more and more decayed with each appearance. It's a fun, straightforward movie, but werewolves are still waiting for a truly iconic depiction to define them the way Dracula did for vampires. Snake - An absolute gem of a werewolf movie, a genre-bending masterpiece that blends scares with side-splitting humor. Landis script is perfect, capturing the youthful energy and camaraderie of an adventure between David and Jack, making their brutal encounter with a werewolf all the more shocking. The special effects that depict David's transformations are truly groundbreaking, even by today's standards. Rick Baker's innovative techniques create a nightmarishly realistic werewolf that's both terrifying and awe-inspiring. Its my second favorite werewolf transformation EVER only second to The Howling. Landis masterfully walks the tightrope between horror and comedy, with hilarious dream sequences and witty dialogue providing laugh-out-loud moments that land every single time for me. Despite the laughs though, even more impressive for me is the films surprisingly graceful exploration of isolation, loss, and the burden of transformation illustrating just how much of a nightmare it is to become such a monstrous creature. Rockus - After the first gruesome attack the movie leans into some psychological turmoil with a series of nightmares and visions, some of which are kind of campy to the point of Davids friend Jack showing up and being like KYS. Like a lot of monster films from the time period it features some amazing practical effects and makeup work that is mostly lost today. The transformation scene is an all-timer. Its self-awareness and sly winks over its own tropes are almost like a way of catching the viewer off guard so the movie can gut you. Great picture. Plasmabeam - Never been a big horror-comedy guy, but this one works because the characters are relatable and fun to be around. Also, the practical effects remain jaw-dropping. Bitto - Rating: C Lots of small things I like, but the overall product isn't really memorable to me. I love the intro to this movie. Having played and DMed multiple TTRPGs, I'm always looking for inspiration and everything leading to the werewolf bite has a strong TTRPG feeling in it. The werewolf transformation is, of course, great. I like Jack constantly coming back to haunt David and how he progressively gets worse over time. The suicide plot being the main tension pull is pretty interesting. I just don't really like how it develops or how it ends. Jcgamer107 - 6/10 Johnbobb - This nurse did not wait a single moment to hook up with her bizarre patient that keeps telling her to her face that he's full on crazy. The real monster here is the absolute annihilation of ethical standards. Also it was real gross when he turned into the werewolf --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me <cite>Snake5555555555 posted [p:979895386] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>19. An American Werewolf in London (1981 / 230 points)Directed / Written by: John Landishttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/308daf22.jpgWhy Its Significant - It's not just a werewolf movie with one of the most memorable transformation scenes in the entire genre (one that also earned Rick Baker the first-ever Oscar for Best Makeup), but John Landis (who was previously most known for directing screwball comedy films) combined horror & comedy that directly paved the way for films like The Lost Boys, Fright Night, Scream, Shaun of the Dead, and countless others. Despite the comedy leanings though, An American Werewolf proved something The Wolf Man tried to all those decades ago - that becoming a werewolf is agonizingly painful and grotesquely physical, the psychological toll and isolation of being a monster arguably on the forefront more than even the comedy aspects. An American Werewolf in Londons success led directly to John Landis and Rick Baker being chosen by Michael Jackson to create the iconic Thriller music video, and the film received a sequel, radio adaptation, documentary film, is alluded to in John Landis Masters of Horror film Deer Woman, and an unauthorized Bollywood loose remake. The RankersEvilordexdeath - 9Snake - 11Rockus - 12Plasmabeam - 13Bitto - 15Jcgamer107 - 16Johnbobb - 16Inviso - 18Lightning - 21Karo - 23Mythiot - 24Seginustemple - 24Fortybelowsummer - 28Evilordexdeath - I watched this film in my teens for reasons other than its status as a horror film. What I remembered, before watching it again for this list, were the transformation scenes, the sex scenes which were way more explicit than I was used to at the time, the downer ending, and, for me the most representative of the movie: the sequence where the werewolf main character, after having transformed and rampaged the night before, wakes up naked in a wolf pit at the zoo and has to streak back home covering his balls with funny objects and camera angles. Sometimes when a film is labeled as a horror-comedy it comes off like Tommy Wiseau retroactively dubbing The Room a Black Comedy - that's to say the movie is just an attempt a horror so awkward and stilted it's kind of funny. This is definitely not that kind of movie. There are parts in here that are clearly supposed to be horror and a lot of parts that are obviously intended as comedy. The clearest examples of this are the aforementioned nude running sequence and a part near the end where David talks to the ghosts of his victims in a porno theater about how he should kill himself to end the werewolf curse keeping them undead, with repeated cuts to a porn parody movie where things like someone calling the lead actress with the wrong number and a man walking in on two lovers as if one of them is cheating on them, them responding that neither of them has ever seen him before, and him simply apologizing and leaving the room take place. In the end, I'd say it ends up being more of a comedy than a horror with the climactic sequence having a big silly chain car-crash caused by people panicking at seeing the werewolf ragdoll more bodies around than the beast itself actually mauls. On the horror side, the most tense scenes are the ones set in Northern England where distrustful Yorkshiremen issue vague and creepy warnings to the boys and later the doctor. They have a definite sense of social anxiety to them. While the werewolf rampages don't really chill me to the bone, the special effects in this are damned impressive, both for the TF sequence and the ghostly visits from the main character's dead friend, who becomes more and more decayed with each appearance. It's a fun, straightforward movie, but werewolves are still waiting for a truly iconic depiction to define them the way Dracula did for vampires.Snake - An absolute gem of a werewolf movie, a genre-bending masterpiece that blends scares with side-splitting humor. Landis script is perfect, capturing the youthful energy and camaraderie of an adventure between David and Jack, making their brutal encounter with a werewolf all the more shocking. The special effects that depict David's transformations are truly groundbreaking, even by today's standards. Rick Baker's innovative techniques create a nightmarishly realistic werewolf that's both terrifying and awe-inspiring. Its my second favorite werewolf transformation EVER only second to The Howling. Landis masterfully walks the tightrope between horror and comedy, with hilarious dream sequences and witty dialogue providing laugh-out-loud moments that land every single time for me. Despite the laughs though, even more impressive for me is the films surprisingly graceful exploration of isolation, loss, and the burden of transformation illustrating just how much of a nightmare it is to become such a monstrous creature. Rockus - After the first gruesome attack the movie leans into some psychological turmoil with a series of nightmares and visions, some of which are kind of campy to the point of Davids friend Jack showing up and being like KYS. Like a lot of monster films from the time period it features some amazing practical effects and makeup work that is mostly lost today. The transformation scene is an all-timer. Its self-awareness and sly winks over its own tropes are almost like a way of catching the viewer off guard so the movie can gut you. Great picture.Plasmabeam - Never been a big horror-comedy guy, but this one works because the characters are relatable and fun to be around. Also, the practical effects remain jaw-dropping.Bitto - Rating: CLots of small things I like, but the overall product isn't really memorable to me. I love the intro to this movie. Having played and DMed multiple TTRPGs, I'm always looking for inspiration and everything leading to the werewolf bite has a strong TTRPG feeling in it. The werewolf transformation is, of course, great. I like Jack constantly coming back to haunt David and how he progressively gets worse over time. The suicide plot being the main tension pull is pretty interesting. I just don't really like how it develops or how it ends.Jcgamer107 - 6/10Johnbobb - This nurse did not wait a single moment to hook up with her bizarre patient that keeps telling her to her face that he's full on crazy. The real monster here is the absolute annihilation of ethical standards. Also it was real gross when he turned into the werewolf </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Snake5555555555 04/13/24 10:10:48 PM #333:	Inviso - Before I forget, the ending credit scroll with Congratulations to Princess Diana and Prince Charles on their weddingdid not end well. Just wanted to throw that out there. But as for the movies content, I wanted to like it more than I did, but the pacing screwed everything up. You get the opening with two guys wandering around the countryside, sure. And then theres the werewolf attack, and then up until around the fifty-minute mark, its just foreshadowing. David has nightmares about being a wolf or a werewolf, but theres zero suspense thereobviously hes becoming a werewolf, and conveniently enough, he was in a coma for three weeks, so the movie doesnt have to waste a whole lot of plot time on waiting for the next full moon. I guess the problem is that the movie is very slow until it suddenly becomes TOO fast. There are a lot of plodding scenes (like David dicking around Alexs apartment the whole day hes waiting for his first full moon), and then we get the cool werewolf transformation and subsequent kill scenes, and thats where the movie actually starts to get interesting. Unfortunately, the vast majority of the film is over by that point, so everything after that point feels rushed. But that last third or so is actually compelled. The aftermath of waking up naked in a wolf enclosure is funny (as is him stealing a ladies overcoat to cover up). The realization that hes a murderer and TRYING to do whats right (turning himself in to the police, who dont take him seriously; calling his family to say goodbye; TRYING to kill himself) is interesting. And then we get the porno theater scene, which is hilariously camp. Just watching a badly-acted porno while chatting with your dead and decaying friend, as well as six other victims (including the most amazingly cheerful undead couple youll ever meet)its ACTUALLY amusing. And then he transforms again (which feels wrong, since shouldnt the full moon only happen once a month, not two nights in a row) and goes on another killing frenzy, which somehow leads to the cops getting involved, a decapitation, and a WAY over-the-top car crash sequence. Its all greatand then the ending happens, and its disappointing. I dont knowI think I knew David had to die, but then the ending is an anti-climax. They try to inject emotion by having Alex make an emotional plea, but that fails and David just gets shot. Even one last lingering scene of someoneANYONE carrying on the werewolf bloodline wouldve been better than David is shot and killed, end of movie. As a result, its another okay film that shouldve been better than it was. Lightning - A naked American man stole my balloons. This is without a doubt one of the most popular and influential horror comedies of all time, that set a new standard for werewolves, makeup, effects, and tone in horror movies. Watching through the list chronologically, this film felt like a real turning point for the genre, where the films truly started to feel of their moment. Unfortunately, that also makes it one of the most dated feeling films on the list. Huge parts of this movie work. The setup is moody, funny, and effective all at once. The makeup and effects are truly stunning (this was the first recipient of the Best Makeup Oscar), especially in the big transformation sequence at the heart of the film. The chases we see in the last act are quite thrilling, and you do really root for David by the end despite knowing that he is doomed. Its all very entertaining, and keeping the werewolf aspects to the side until the transformation sequence most of the way through the film was an inspired choice. Where the movie comes up short is the dated comedic aspects. These days a lot of the jokes no longer land, and being an 80s comedy of course it has some frankly weird sexual and gender politics to it. Also, Ive been to local pubs in the North of England and none of them are like that. The portrayal of London is okay but the portrayal of the North is stereotypical and frankly a bit offensive. In the version I watched at least there was a dedication at the end congratulating Charles and Diana on their wedding which about sums it up. This is still an entertaining watch but absolutely showing its age. 3/5 Karo - This two kids are vising backwater English villages for some reason and one gets turned into a werewolf, but there's a conspiracy to gaslight him into believing everything is all right because these country hicks are apparently the Illuminati and so nobody asks any questions about the giant claw marks across his chest or anything. His 'friend' shows up as ghost to warn him, but then almost immediately jumps right to a suggestion of suicide right off the bat so fuck that guy. What follows is standard werewolf fare, and although the transformation scene is impressive for pre-cgi era there is nothing really remarkable about the story. The serious and comedic elements are fused poorly and just feel incredibly off, like at the end where we go straight from the shot of the grieving girlfriend right into bow chicka wow bop a dop doo wop a bang dang a ding dong. This is really what you want the audience to take out of the theater? For fucks sake. The characters all feel weird and unbelievable, none moreso then than the incredibly thirsty nurse who shows zero concern that the random guy she invited into her house is hearing voices in his head and claims to have just been bitten by a monster. It's not really scary, nor is it really funny. It really needed to pick a lane rather than smashing though every traffic cone on the center divide and leaving us with a movie that is not only half cooked, but is completely bloody raw. Seginustemple - Ayy, its the transformation sequence from all the monster movie highlight reels! It really is quite a spectacle. Rick Baker's effects still hold up. Overall, I was lukewarm on this one. David Naughton is a charming lead and there's some decent pathos in his story, but I'm not into the comedic correspondence with undead Griffin Dunne. I really bought into their rapport in that first scene when they're alive/human, but everything after the death has a certain type of corny self-aware goofiness that just doesn't work for me, even if the corpse makeup is excellent. The romance with the nurse is saucy though, esp. the makeout scene with the Van Morrison song. I do love that you can tell this is by the same creative team that made the Thriller video, it has that same tone throughout. Fortybelowsummer - There are some things to like about Werewolf. The beginning sets an ominous tone in a setting that lends well to a sense of dread. It sprinkles in some funny moments, and the characters, particularly the main, are enjoyable enough to watch. The makeup is really good (academy award winning in fact!) and, of course, the transformation scene is legendary and still fascinating to watch. However, most of the first hour is slow and boring and even when David does transform, his rampages are underwhelming. I assume the close-up shots of the wolf face were done out of necessity to avoid the logistical problems of a full wolf body, but I didnt care for them. Aside from some pretty decent post-mauling gore, the attacks werent as terrifying as they could be. And then theres the ending, which is unforgivably inconsequential. I was actually pissed off that he went on an anticlimactic killing spree, got backed into a dead-end alley, had a half assed I love you moment, and then went down helplessly in a hail of gunfire. I respect how important Werewolf is in the genre but its just too flawed for me. --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me <cite>Snake5555555555 posted [p:979895391] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Inviso - Before I forget, the ending credit scroll with Congratulations to Princess Diana and Prince Charles on their weddingdid not end well. Just wanted to throw that out there. But as for the movies content, I wanted to like it more than I did, but the pacing screwed everything up. You get the opening with two guys wandering around the countryside, sure. And then theres the werewolf attack, and then up until around the fifty-minute mark, its just foreshadowing. David has nightmares about being a wolf or a werewolf, but theres zero suspense thereobviously hes becoming a werewolf, and conveniently enough, he was in a coma for three weeks, so the movie doesnt have to waste a whole lot of plot time on waiting for the next full moon.I guess the problem is that the movie is very slow until it suddenly becomes TOO fast. There are a lot of plodding scenes (like David dicking around Alexs apartment the whole day hes waiting for his first full moon), and then we get the cool werewolf transformation and subsequent kill scenes, and thats where the movie actually starts to get interesting. Unfortunately, the vast majority of the film is over by that point, so everything after that point feels rushed. But that last third or so is actually compelled. The aftermath of waking up naked in a wolf enclosure is funny (as is him stealing a ladies overcoat to cover up). The realization that hes a murderer and TRYING to do whats right (turning himself in to the police, who dont take him seriously; calling his family to say goodbye; TRYING to kill himself) is interesting.And then we get the porno theater scene, which is hilariously camp. Just watching a badly-acted porno while chatting with your dead and decaying friend, as well as six other victims (including the most amazingly cheerful undead couple youll ever meet)its ACTUALLY amusing. And then he transforms again (which feels wrong, since shouldnt the full moon only happen once a month, not two nights in a row) and goes on another killing frenzy, which somehow leads to the cops getting involved, a decapitation, and a WAY over-the-top car crash sequence. Its all greatand then the ending happens, and its disappointing. I dont knowI think I knew David had to die, but then the ending is an anti-climax. They try to inject emotion by having Alex make an emotional plea, but that fails and David just gets shot. Even one last lingering scene of someoneANYONE carrying on the werewolf bloodline wouldve been better than David is shot and killed, end of movie. As a result, its another okay film that shouldve been better than it was.Lightning - A naked American man stole my balloons.This is without a doubt one of the most popular and influential horror comedies of all time, that set a new standard for werewolves, makeup, effects, and tone in horror movies. Watching through the list chronologically, this film felt like a real turning point for the genre, where the films truly started to feel of their moment. Unfortunately, that also makes it one of the most dated feeling films on the list.Huge parts of this movie work. The setup is moody, funny, and effective all at once. The makeup and effects are truly stunning (this was the first recipient of the Best Makeup Oscar), especially in the big transformation sequence at the heart of the film. The chases we see in the last act are quite thrilling, and you do really root for David by the end despite knowing that he is doomed. Its all very entertaining, and keeping the werewolf aspects to the side until the transformation sequence most of the way through the film was an inspired choice.Where the movie comes up short is the dated comedic aspects. These days a lot of the jokes no longer land, and being an 80s comedy of course it has some frankly weird sexual and gender politics to it. Also, Ive been to local pubs in the North of England and none of them are like that. The portrayal of London is okay but the portrayal of the North is stereotypical and frankly a bit offensive. In the version I watched at least there was a dedication at the end congratulating Charles and Diana on their wedding which about sums it up. This is still an entertaining watch but absolutely showing its age.3/5Karo - This two kids are vising backwater English villages for some reason and one gets turned into a werewolf, but there's a conspiracy to gaslight him into believing everything is all right because these country hicks are apparently the Illuminati and so nobody asks any questions about the giant claw marks across his chest or anything.His 'friend' shows up as ghost to warn him, but then almost immediately jumps right to a suggestion of suicide right off the bat so fuck that guy.What follows is standard werewolf fare, and although the transformation scene is impressive for pre-cgi era there is nothing really remarkable about the story. The serious and comedic elements are fused poorly and just feel incredibly off, like at the end where we go straight from the shot of the grieving girlfriend right into bow chicka wow bop a dop doo wop a bang dang a ding dong. This is really what you want the audience to take out of the theater? For fucks sake.The characters all feel weird and unbelievable, none moreso then than the incredibly thirsty nurse who shows zero concern that the random guy she invited into her house is hearing voices in his head and claims to have just been bitten by a monster.It's not really scary, nor is it really funny. It really needed to pick a lane rather than smashing though every traffic cone on the center divide and leaving us with a movie that is not only half cooked, but is completely bloody raw.Seginustemple - Ayy, its the transformation sequence from all the monster movie highlight reels! It really is quite a spectacle. Rick Baker's effects still hold up. Overall, I was lukewarm on this one. David Naughton is a charming lead and there's some decent pathos in his story, but I'm not into the comedic correspondence with undead Griffin Dunne. I really bought into their rapport in that first scene when they're alive/human, but everything after the death has a certain type of corny self-aware goofiness that just doesn't work for me, even if the corpse makeup is excellent. The romance with the nurse is saucy though, esp. the makeout scene with the Van Morrison song. I do love that you can tell this is by the same creative team that made the Thriller video, it has that same tone throughout.Fortybelowsummer - There are some things to like about Werewolf. The beginning sets an ominous tone in a setting that lends well to a sense of dread. It sprinkles in some funny moments, and the characters, particularly the main, are enjoyable enough to watch. The makeup is really good (academy award winning in fact!) and, of course, the transformation scene is legendary and still fascinating to watch. However, most of the first hour is slow and boring and even when David does transform, his rampages are underwhelming. I assume the close-up shots of the wolf face were done out of necessity to avoid the logistical problems of a full wolf body, but I didnt care for them. Aside from some pretty decent post-mauling gore, the attacks werent as terrifying as they could be. And then theres the ending, which is unforgivably inconsequential. I was actually pissed off that he went on an anticlimactic killing spree, got backed into a dead-end alley, had a half assed I love you moment, and then went down helplessly in a hail of gunfire. I respect how important Werewolf is in the genre but its just too flawed for me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jcgamer107 04/13/24 10:17:49 PM #334:	Hmmm.....a little low for Changeling but it isn't particularly exciting. The beginning sets an ominous tone in a setting that lends well to a sense of dread Yeah, I mostly only like the setup of 'Werewolf', with the bar scene and stuff. it fizzles out by the end. LinkMarioSamus posted... Only George C. Scott movie I've seen is Doctor Strangelove, which I did like a lot. Exorcist III is good Bet Possession again --- azuarc wasn't even home. he was playing Magic the Gathering at his buddy's store, which is extremely easy to verify <cite>jcgamer107 posted [p:979895469] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Hmmm.....a little low for Changeling but it isn't particularly exciting.<quote>The beginning sets an ominous tone in a setting that lends well to a sense of dread</quote>Yeah, I mostly only like the setup of 'Werewolf', with the bar scene and stuff. it fizzles out by the end.LinkMarioSamus posted... </cite><quote>Only George C. Scott movie I've seen is Doctor Strangelove, which I did like a lot.</quote>Exorcist III is goodBet Possession again </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Snake5555555555 04/13/24 10:20:40 PM #335:	Outlier Fortybelowsummer - 115 Karo - 94 Jcgamer107 - 86 Evilordexdeath - 84 Inviso - 78 Johnbobb - 73 Seginustemple - 72 Snake - 69 Rockus - 62 Bitto - 60 Mythiot - 55 Plasmabeam - 52 Lightning - 45 Very few shifts now as we enters the teens --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me <cite>Snake5555555555 posted [p:979895496] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>OutlierFortybelowsummer - 115Karo - 94Jcgamer107 - 86Evilordexdeath - 84Inviso - 78Johnbobb - 73Seginustemple - 72Snake - 69Rockus - 62Bitto - 60Mythiot - 55Plasmabeam - 52Lightning - 45Very few shifts now as we enters the teens </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnbobb 04/13/24 10:34:32 PM #336:	Woah! That's another one that wouldn't have been on my radar this early at all; I figured I'd be on the lower end of rankers --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs <cite>Johnbobb posted [p:979895658] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Woah! That's another one that wouldn't have been on my radar this early at all; I figured I'd be on the lower end of rankers </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
plasmabeam 04/13/24 10:43:43 PM #337:	Vegas was off the mark, and Seginus and Bitto each make an easy $200 for betting Any Other Movie. (Also, I added $200 to Lightning's wallet for picking unlisted Christine when Changeling dropped. It just dawned on me that I might have missed $200 payouts for Child's Play and The Lost Boys. Yell at me if you didn't get your cash.) VEGAS ODDSBOARD: +600 Re-Animator (1985) +700 Fright Night (1985) +800 Christine (1983) +1000 Possession (1981) +1000 Phenomena (1985) +1200 Gremlins (1984) +1200 Evil Dead II (1987) +1500 Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (1986) +200 Any Other Movie (+2000 if guessed correctly) Current Leaderboard: 1) Johnbobb $3150 (The Changeling 2000, Friday the 13th 500, Sleepaway Camp 650) 2) Lightning $2500 (The Changeling 200, Creepshow 650, Friday the 13th 500, Sleepaway Camp 650, Basket Case 500) 3) Inviso $2400 (Creepshow 650, Killer Klowns From Outer Space 600, Sleepaway Camp 650, Basket Case 500) 3) Exdeath $2400 (Creepshow 650, Friday the 13th 500, Killer Klowns From Outer Space 600, Sleepaway Camp 650) 4) Bitto $2100 (Creepshow 650, Tetsuo: The Iron Man 600, Sleepaway Camp 650) 5) jcgamer $1200 (An American Werewolf in London 200, Tetsuo: The Iron Man 600, Killer Klowns From Outer Space 600) 6) Seginus $850 (An American Werewolf in London 200, Sleepaway Camp 650) 7) Karo $650 (Sleepaway Camp 650) 7) rockus $650 (Creepshow 650) The House Won On: +1000 Pet Sematary (1989) +1000 Prince of Darkness (1987) +2000 Childs Play (1988) +2000 The Lost Boys (1987) --- ~Jacksonville Jaguars~ <cite>plasmabeam posted [p:979895774] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Vegas was off the mark, and Seginus and Bitto each make an easy $200 for betting Any Other Movie. (Also, I added $200 to Lightning's wallet for picking unlisted Christine when Changeling dropped. It just dawned on me that I might have missed $200 payouts for Child's Play and The Lost Boys. Yell at me if you didn't get your cash.)VEGAS ODDSBOARD:+600 Re-Animator (1985)+700 Fright Night (1985)+800 Christine (1983)+1000 Possession (1981)+1000 Phenomena (1985)+1200 Gremlins (1984)+1200 Evil Dead II (1987)+1500 Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (1986)+200 Any Other Movie (+2000 if guessed correctly)Current Leaderboard:1) Johnbobb $3150 (The Changeling 2000, Friday the 13th 500, Sleepaway Camp 650)2) Lightning $2500 (The Changeling 200, Creepshow 650, Friday the 13th 500, Sleepaway Camp 650, Basket Case 500)3) Inviso $2400 (Creepshow 650, Killer Klowns From Outer Space 600, Sleepaway Camp 650, Basket Case 500)3) Exdeath $2400 (Creepshow 650, Friday the 13th 500, Killer Klowns From Outer Space 600, Sleepaway Camp 650) 4) Bitto $2100 (Creepshow 650, Tetsuo: The Iron Man 600, Sleepaway Camp 650)5) jcgamer $1200 (An American Werewolf in London 200, Tetsuo: The Iron Man 600, Killer Klowns From Outer Space 600)6) Seginus $850 (An American Werewolf in London 200, Sleepaway Camp 650) 7) Karo $650 (Sleepaway Camp 650)7) rockus $650 (Creepshow 650)The House Won On:+1000 Pet Sematary (1989)+1000 Prince of Darkness (1987)+2000 Childs Play (1988)+2000 The Lost Boys (1987) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rockus 04/13/24 10:59:42 PM #338:	Surprised I'm one of the higher rankings on that. I thought it would be in a lot of top 10s. It's kind of a classic. Though I also think Fright Night is a classic and people keep guessing it early so who knows. --- http://thetramp.filmaf.com/owned https://vimeo.com/402818980 <cite>rockus posted [p:979895951] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Surprised I'm one of the higher rankings on that. I thought it would be in a lot of top 10s. It's kind of a classic.Though I also think Fright Night is a classic and people keep guessing it early so who knows. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnbobb 04/13/24 11:08:42 PM #339:	now it's gremlins --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs <cite>Johnbobb posted [p:979896065] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>now it's gremlins </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blaziken 04/13/24 11:16:58 PM #340:	Gonna switch to Phenomena as my guess. --- Inviso thinks all starters should be Fire/Fighting. http://i.imgur.com/oOSm64C.gif <cite>Blaziken posted [p:979896166] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Gonna switch to Phenomena as my guess. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fortybelowsummer 04/13/24 11:17:37 PM #341:	I think 28 is too low now that I reflect on it, but still not the biggest fan. I could see Dead Zone being in this vicinity so guess Dead Zone --- All hail the coming of the Destroyer - the Slayer's time...is now. Live and let live. <cite>fortybelowsummer posted [p:979896171] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>I think 28 is too low now that I reflect on it, but still not the biggest fan. I could see Dead Zone being in this vicinity so guess Dead Zone </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skulltrumpets 04/13/24 11:26:38 PM #342:	at this point i don't know if I'd even bat an eye at the shining dropping soon <cite>skulltrumpets posted [p:979896255] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>at this point i don't know if I'd even bat an eye at the shining dropping soon </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bitto 04/14/24 3:22:22 AM #343:	That makes sense. There's not a lot that the movie has to offer and the ending feels so abrupt. I like what it offered, but if you didn't, it would rank lowly. I checked for Child's Play and Lost Boys and didn't see anyone guess a movie off the list, so we should be good. The next 3 movies are 222, 222, and 221, so it might as well be a crapshoot. A couple of the oldies dropped, so let's keep it coming with Poltergeist. --- I can't live forever With my head and my heart in the clouds <cite>Bitto posted [p:979898579] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>That makes sense. There's not a lot that the movie has to offer and the ending feels so abrupt. I like what it offered, but if you didn't, it would rank lowly.I checked for Child's Play and Lost Boys and didn't see anyone guess a movie off the list, so we should be good.The next 3 movies are 222, 222, and 221, so it might as well be a crapshoot. A couple of the oldies dropped, so let's keep it coming with Poltergeist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
plasmabeam 04/14/24 7:10:27 AM #344:	Bitto posted... I checked for Child's Play and Lost Boys and didn't see anyone guess a movie off the list, so we should be good. Great to know. Thanks! --- ~Jacksonville Jaguars~ <cite>plasmabeam posted [p:979899668] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Bitto posted... </cite><quote>I checked for Child's Play and Lost Boys and didn't see anyone guess a movie off the list, so we should be good.</quote>Great to know. Thanks! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 04/14/24 9:06:19 AM #345:	Interestingly, Roger Ebert gave the movie only 2 stars out of 4 and called the movie "unfinished" because of seemingly not having much to the plot. Having seen the movie, I understand where he was coming from but I don't really agree. I think it had as much plot as it needed to have at least. On a scale of 1-10 I give it a low 8 or a high 7. I liked it but wasn't particularly impressed. I do not remember finding the middle of the movie to be a drag like some do. I'm honestly amazed Beetlejuice ranks higher on this list, especially since An American Werewolf at least tries to be scary while Beetlejuice doesn't bother (still like it overall, at least on the level of a Tim Burton live-action cartoon), but eh. --- Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders? <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:979900422] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Interestingly, Roger Ebert gave the movie only 2 stars out of 4 and called the movie "unfinished" because of seemingly not having much to the plot. Having seen the movie, I understand where he was coming from but I don't really agree. I think it had as much plot as it needed to have at least.On a scale of 1-10 I give it a low 8 or a high 7. I liked it but wasn't particularly impressed. I do not remember finding the middle of the movie to be a drag like some do. I'm honestly amazed Beetlejuice ranks higher on this list, especially since An American Werewolf at least tries to be scary while Beetlejuice doesn't bother (still like it overall, at least on the level of a Tim Burton live-action cartoon), but eh. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evillordexdeath 04/14/24 11:30:23 AM #346:	Wow I would not have expected to be the top ranker for Werewolf. Staying on Re-animator --- I'm playing every game from GotD 2020! Games Completed: 20/129 (Currently on Hiatus) <cite>Evillordexdeath posted [p:979901842] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Wow I would not have expected to be the top ranker for Werewolf.Staying on Re-animator </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Snake5555555555 04/14/24 2:05:11 PM #347:	18. Poltergeist (1982, 222 points) Directed by: Tobe Hooper / Screenplay by: Steven Spielberg, Michael Grais, Mark Victor https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b6f5d718.png Why Its Significant - A box office smash and critical darling, Poltergeist was a collaborative effort between two legends who need no introduction - Tobe Hooper & Steven Spielberg. Poltergeist innovated and redefined the haunted house genre. Poltergeist steered away from gothic mansions and placed the horror within the idyllic confines of a California suburb. Another distinctive feature of Poltergeist was its melding of the supernatural with the technological age. The television, a symbol of connection and entertainment, became a conduit between the real world and the spectral realm. Poltergeist was also lauded for its special effects, produced by Industrial Light and Magic, utilizing a mix of practical and innovative techniques that received an Academy Award nomination for their efforts. It ushered in a new era of suburban horror and explored the anxieties of a changing world. It received two sequels, a remake, a TV series, Italian imitation (Ghosthouse), amusement park attractions, and potentially a new remake & TV series in the works, as well as being parodied by countless pieces of media over the decades. The Rankers Jcgamer107 - 3 Mythiot - 6 Inviso - 7 Lightning - 11 Snake - 16 Johnbobb - 17 Plasmabeam - 18 Evilordexdeath - 23 Fortybelowsummer - 23 Rockus - 23 Karo - 24 Bitto - 25 Seginustemple - 26 Jcgamer107 - 8/10 Inviso - The one was legitimately unsettling in the best possible way. No one actually dies in the entire film, which is kinda crazy for a horror movie. I was worried at first that having an almost two-hour long movie kick off the demonic stuff and literal abduction of a child around thirty minutes in would make the rest of the movie feel like it was dragging, but it didnt. If anything, thats where the movie really got interesting for me. Like, you start things off by setting the stage in a quiet suburb of cookie cutter houses (even emphasizing the formulaic design with two remotes operating on the same frequency in different houses), but even in those early scenes, with get the general creepiness of Carol Anne hearing voices in the static on TV. Hell, the earliest haunting scenes, as quick as they are to show up, set things up as well maybe youre not EVIL ghosts, right before flipping the switch and hitting the family with the abduction. Anyway, Carol Anne gets ghostnapped (and her brother Robbie is nearly eaten by a demonic tree), and you see the toll it takes on the family. How are they supposed to explain that their daughter is in some weird ghost realm? The introduction of the paranormal investigators is both campy, yet also played completely straight, and it really sells the setting when theyre caught completely off-guard by how intense the haunting is. These are people legitimately terrified to have been brought into the house, and its only with the introduction of the creepy spirit medium that it feels like the tables are turning. Everything gets super intense, with the family trying to rescue Carol Anne and cleanse the spirits, and it SEEMS like this is where the movie is coming to its happy conclusionbut I LOVE that theres one final snag, as the Beast spirit is not ready to give up so easily. The burial ground twist is funny too, especially once the entire neighborhood starts getting overwhelmed by the demonic power of the house. Its also just so weird to watch a house implode into a vortex of demonic energy. It just gives the movie a sense of weirdness and wackiness without diminishing the horror aspect of it, and I think that sells the film really well. Lightning - Theyre here! This is one of the biggest horror hits of the 1980s, defining a whole new wave of fun horror movies with almost a family friendly edge to them. Through all that it still manages to be effectively scary. You can feel the influence of Spielberg throughout this film, which makes sense as he purportedly ghost directed it. This really is just a lot of fun throughout, from the early suggestions of a haunting to the scenes with the ghost hunters to the scares in the climax to the gag at the very end. It does feel a little predictable, though films like this are so influential you have to wonder if the reason for that is that this just affected so many other films. Overall Poltergeist is a warm hearted yet still pretty frightening rollercoaster ride of a horror film that set the stage for a lot of modern, thrill ride style horror movies that we see today. Its far from the deepest film on the list, but it is one of the most enjoyable of them all. 4/5 Snake - Poltergeist is a chilling yet thrilling ride that takes the classic haunted house trope and infuses it with Spielbergian wonder. The film excels at building suspense. What starts with flickering television screens and furniture moving on their own escalates to clown doll attacks (TERRIFYING) and assaults from tree appendages. What really elevates the film are the performances though. The Freelings are a relatable family, and the actors breathe life into their characters in a way that makes you care deeply about their fate. JoBeth Williams, as the concerned mother who fiercely protects her children, shows a masterclass in conveying escalating terror, from initial disbelief to raw maternal desperation. Craig T. Nelsons transition from denial to action is believable and adds depth to the narrative. And of course, Heather O'Rourke is simply unforgettable as Carol Anne, her wide eyes and unwavering chilling line delivery in "They're here..." are both parts endearing and deeply unsettling. And even Zelda Rubinstein as the quintessential horror film medium with her quirky charm and unexpected fierceness. All these combinations make Poltergeist a genuinely unsettling and emotionally resonant experience and theres a reason its one of the most famous horror films of all time. Johnbobb - For the most part, I enjoy Poltergeist. In many ways, it's kind of ahead of it's time in terms of special effects. However, I'm at a loss for things to really say about it. It's better than most 80s horror, and has a handful of very memorable and legitimately terrifying moments, even if it ultimately doesn't stick with me all that much as a whole. Plasmabeam - Like most stories about domestic hauntings, it didnt move the needle for me. --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me <cite>Snake5555555555 posted [p:979903905] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>18. Poltergeist (1982, 222 points)Directed by: Tobe Hooper / Screenplay by: Steven Spielberg, Michael Grais, Mark Victorhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b6f5d718.pngWhy Its Significant - A box office smash and critical darling, Poltergeist was a collaborative effort between two legends who need no introduction - Tobe Hooper & Steven Spielberg. Poltergeist innovated and redefined the haunted house genre. Poltergeist steered away from gothic mansions and placed the horror within the idyllic confines of a California suburb. Another distinctive feature of Poltergeist was its melding of the supernatural with the technological age. The television, a symbol of connection and entertainment, became a conduit between the real world and the spectral realm. Poltergeist was also lauded for its special effects, produced by Industrial Light and Magic, utilizing a mix of practical and innovative techniques that received an Academy Award nomination for their efforts. It ushered in a new era of suburban horror and explored the anxieties of a changing world. It received two sequels, a remake, a TV series, Italian imitation (Ghosthouse), amusement park attractions, and potentially a new remake & TV series in the works, as well as being parodied by countless pieces of media over the decades.The RankersJcgamer107 - 3Mythiot - 6Inviso - 7Lightning - 11Snake - 16Johnbobb - 17Plasmabeam - 18Evilordexdeath - 23Fortybelowsummer - 23Rockus - 23Karo - 24Bitto - 25Seginustemple - 26Jcgamer107 - 8/10Inviso - The one was legitimately unsettling in the best possible way. No one actually dies in the entire film, which is kinda crazy for a horror movie. I was worried at first that having an almost two-hour long movie kick off the demonic stuff and literal abduction of a child around thirty minutes in would make the rest of the movie feel like it was dragging, but it didnt. If anything, thats where the movie really got interesting for me. Like, you start things off by setting the stage in a quiet suburb of cookie cutter houses (even emphasizing the formulaic design with two remotes operating on the same frequency in different houses), but even in those early scenes, with get the general creepiness of Carol Anne hearing voices in the static on TV. Hell, the earliest haunting scenes, as quick as they are to show up, set things up as well maybe youre not EVIL ghosts, right before flipping the switch and hitting the family with the abduction.Anyway, Carol Anne gets ghostnapped (and her brother Robbie is nearly eaten by a demonic tree), and you see the toll it takes on the family. How are they supposed to explain that their daughter is in some weird ghost realm? The introduction of the paranormal investigators is both campy, yet also played completely straight, and it really sells the setting when theyre caught completely off-guard by how intense the haunting is. These are people legitimately terrified to have been brought into the house, and its only with the introduction of the creepy spirit medium that it feels like the tables are turning. Everything gets super intense, with the family trying to rescue Carol Anne and cleanse the spirits, and it SEEMS like this is where the movie is coming to its happy conclusionbut I LOVE that theres one final snag, as the Beast spirit is not ready to give up so easily.The burial ground twist is funny too, especially once the entire neighborhood starts getting overwhelmed by the demonic power of the house. Its also just so weird to watch a house implode into a vortex of demonic energy. It just gives the movie a sense of weirdness and wackiness without diminishing the horror aspect of it, and I think that sells the film really well.Lightning - Theyre here!This is one of the biggest horror hits of the 1980s, defining a whole new wave of fun horror movies with almost a family friendly edge to them. Through all that it still manages to be effectively scary. You can feel the influence of Spielberg throughout this film, which makes sense as he purportedly ghost directed it.This really is just a lot of fun throughout, from the early suggestions of a haunting to the scenes with the ghost hunters to the scares in the climax to the gag at the very end. It does feel a little predictable, though films like this are so influential you have to wonder if the reason for that is that this just affected so many other films.Overall Poltergeist is a warm hearted yet still pretty frightening rollercoaster ride of a horror film that set the stage for a lot of modern, thrill ride style horror movies that we see today. Its far from the deepest film on the list, but it is one of the most enjoyable of them all.4/5Snake - Poltergeist is a chilling yet thrilling ride that takes the classic haunted house trope and infuses it with Spielbergian wonder. The film excels at building suspense. What starts with flickering television screens and furniture moving on their own escalates to clown doll attacks (TERRIFYING) and assaults from tree appendages. What really elevates the film are the performances though. The Freelings are a relatable family, and the actors breathe life into their characters in a way that makes you care deeply about their fate.JoBeth Williams, as the concerned mother who fiercely protects her children, shows a masterclass in conveying escalating terror, from initial disbelief to raw maternal desperation. Craig T. Nelsons transition from denial to action is believable and adds depth to the narrative. And of course, Heather O'Rourke is simply unforgettable as Carol Anne, her wide eyes and unwavering chilling line delivery in "They're here..." are both parts endearing and deeply unsettling. And even Zelda Rubinstein as the quintessential horror film medium with her quirky charm and unexpected fierceness. All these combinations make Poltergeist a genuinely unsettling and emotionally resonant experience and theres a reason its one of the most famous horror films of all time. Johnbobb - For the most part, I enjoy Poltergeist. In many ways, it's kind of ahead of it's time in terms of special effects. However, I'm at a loss for things to really say about it. It's better than most 80s horror, and has a handful of very memorable and legitimately terrifying moments, even if it ultimately doesn't stick with me all that much as a whole. Plasmabeam - Like most stories about domestic hauntings, it didnt move the needle for me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Snake5555555555 04/14/24 2:05:23 PM #348:	Evilordexdeath - I saw this one once before, with family, and we all thought it was really cheesy and hard to take seriously, but that was years ago and a lot of my family is like that with every movie so I knew I had to rewatch. I was worried if I didn't I would underrate a well-known classic, but the second viewing mostly just solidified all the reasons I don't like this movie. The early family scenes are kind of cute, providing a decent buildup for a horror flick, and JoBeth Williams' and especially Zelda Rubenstein's performances are compelling, but once the plot begins to unfold everything just becomes so overdone. So many scenes are just every character screaming at the same time for like 10 minutes, every "scare" prior to the stupid paper mach skeleton monster at the end is just this visual clutter of flashing lights and objects flying around, and if all that isn't enough the score will make damn sure you know that what's happening is scary. I hate the music in this movie, it's always either overstating how spooky events are or just sounding likeStar Wars when it's completely out of place. This also has one of those false horror movie endings that annoys me so much when I'm not enjoying a film. They get their daughter back and the funny little medium lady says "this house is clean," great, give me a couple minutes of falling action and take me to the credits. Instead the haunting starts up again for another 20 minutes of the most visually and auditorily noisy action of all. It really feels like a precursor to the kind of CGI-fueled Hollywood mediocrity that defines so much of cinema today. Fortybelowsummer - Is Poltergeist the best haunted house movie ever? Probably so, but I have to admit I think its kind of overrated. It seems like youll hear nary a bad word spoken about this movie, but for me its just tooSpielberg-y. I know its Tobe Hooper, but it has Spielbergs fingerprints all over it, to the point where he was accused of secretly directing it. Dont get me wrong, I like Spielberg as a director and producer, but I just dont care for his style in muh horror. There are things to like, mainly the idea of taking the haunting out of the traditional old creaky mansion and putting in a modern home right in the middle of idyllic suburbia. That idea does have a lot of appeal, and coupled with the believable performances and script make it scarier because its something that could take over the very home youre sitting in. The last twenty minutes or so are actually amazing and right up my alley, the chaos and dread ratcheted up, presumably more under Hoopers influence. Poltergeist is definitely not bad, but as far as haunted house stories go, there are a number of others that resonate more with me. Rockus - Now this is a modern (for its time) haunted house film with its 1980s suburban setting and the way it utilizes modern (for its time) technology by using a television as a means of interacting with its paranormal entities. The film is a little tame by Tobe Hooper standards but is still ultimately pretty solid. A handful of iconic moments give it a bit of a kick, mostly involving the little girl. Who could forget the theyre here moment? Good movie, but maybe not great. Karo - Greedy real estate developers build a subdivision over a cemetery and nothing bad happens. The story is kind of slow to start, focusing on the day to day life of an ordinary suburban family with some of the most questionable parenting practices ever, I mean who buys this horrifying clown doll and then sits it up in a chair so it can watch their children sleep, jesus fucking christ. Anyway the furniture starts moving of its own accord so they have to call the ghostbusters to deal with the titular poltergeist. Except that's not what it is. The medium clearly states that a poltergeist is a spirit tied to a specific person, as opposed to a haunting being based on a location. This is clearly the latter, so good job giving a your movie an inaccurate title? Also. the desecration of burial ground narrative does not even match up with the mythology presented, where all the people at rest would have long since 'gone into the light' before the graveyard was bulldozed. This film is a prime example of nothing but cinematic fluff, most things happen without rhyme or reason and seem more just a vehicle to showcase a lot of stupid looking special effects, while the tone is inoffensively commercialized to the point of being completely soulless and lacking any bite. Bitto - Rating: D+ This is an interesting family-friendly horror movie. I dunno if child abduction is family-friendly, but most of the scares here are minor, the main cast is generally likable, and there's no on-screen or even off-screen murder. I appreciate the horror of losing a child and the parents sell that pain really well. I feel like most movies would make the paranormal investigators some degree of comical, but again, there's an earnestness to them. I feel like I should like this more, considering I really appreciate sincerity, but this movies feels too.......Christian. The plot also feels really thin, like...there's a lot of scenes about really nothing. Every character introduced afterwards feels like they could inject something in the plot and they just...don't. Seginustemple - Competently made but relatively tame, with scares ranging from bright light/large fan to Ghostbusters fare - I get the sense this has been defanged by parody over the years, and if I had been around to see it in '82 I'd have probably been blown away. But once the paranormal crew shows up dressed in tan the rest of the movie goes down tasting like ecto cooler. You what really resonates though, is the underlying conflict about real estate. Naturally, the developer built the house on a former cemetary and the haunting merely indicates the entitlement of the dead to the land, skeletons popping out of fancy luxury coffins to protest new occupants. Nothing better to do in death than covet property, so lame. --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me <cite>Snake5555555555 posted [p:979903909] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Evilordexdeath - I saw this one once before, with family, and we all thought it was really cheesy and hard to take seriously, but that was years ago and a lot of my family is like that with every movie so I knew I had to rewatch. I was worried if I didn't I would underrate a well-known classic, but the second viewing mostly just solidified all the reasons I don't like this movie. The early family scenes are kind of cute, providing a decent buildup for a horror flick, and JoBeth Williams' and especially Zelda Rubenstein's performances are compelling, but once the plot begins to unfold everything just becomes so overdone. So many scenes are just every character screaming at the same time for like 10 minutes, every "scare" prior to the stupid paper mach skeleton monster at the end is just this visual clutter of flashing lights and objects flying around, and if all that isn't enough the score will make damn sure you know that what's happening is scary. I hate the music in this movie, it's always either overstating how spooky events are or just sounding likeStar Wars when it's completely out of place. This also has one of those false horror movie endings that annoys me so much when I'm not enjoying a film. They get their daughter back and the funny little medium lady says "this house is clean," great, give me a couple minutes of falling action and take me to the credits. Instead the haunting starts up again for another 20 minutes of the most visually and auditorily noisy action of all. It really feels like a precursor to the kind of CGI-fueled Hollywood mediocrity that defines so much of cinema today.Fortybelowsummer - Is Poltergeist the best haunted house movie ever? Probably so, but I have to admit I think its kind of overrated. It seems like youll hear nary a bad word spoken about this movie, but for me its just tooSpielberg-y. I know its Tobe Hooper, but it has Spielbergs fingerprints all over it, to the point where he was accused of secretly directing it. Dont get me wrong, I like Spielberg as a director and producer, but I just dont care for his style in muh horror. There are things to like, mainly the idea of taking the haunting out of the traditional old creaky mansion and putting in a modern home right in the middle of idyllic suburbia. That idea does have a lot of appeal, and coupled with the believable performances and script make it scarier because its something that could take over the very home youre sitting in. The last twenty minutes or so are actually amazing and right up my alley, the chaos and dread ratcheted up, presumably more under Hoopers influence. Poltergeist is definitely not bad, but as far as haunted house stories go, there are a number of others that resonate more with me.Rockus - Now this is a modern (for its time) haunted house film with its 1980s suburban setting and the way it utilizes modern (for its time) technology by using a television as a means of interacting with its paranormal entities. The film is a little tame by Tobe Hooper standards but is still ultimately pretty solid. A handful of iconic moments give it a bit of a kick, mostly involving the little girl. Who could forget the theyre here moment? Good movie, but maybe not great.Karo - Greedy real estate developers build a subdivision over a cemetery and nothing bad happens.The story is kind of slow to start, focusing on the day to day life of an ordinary suburban family with some of the most questionable parenting practices ever, I mean who buys this horrifying clown doll and then sits it up in a chair so it can watch their children sleep, jesus fucking christ.Anyway the furniture starts moving of its own accord so they have to call the ghostbusters to deal with the titular poltergeist. Except that's not what it is. The medium clearly states that a poltergeist is a spirit tied to a specific person, as opposed to a haunting being based on a location. This is clearly the latter, so good job giving a your movie an inaccurate title?Also. the desecration of burial ground narrative does not even match up with the mythology presented, where all the people at rest would have long since 'gone into the light' before the graveyard was bulldozed.This film is a prime example of nothing but cinematic fluff, most things happen without rhyme or reason and seem more just a vehicle to showcase a lot of stupid looking special effects, while the tone is inoffensively commercialized to the point of being completely soulless and lacking any bite.Bitto - Rating: D+This is an interesting family-friendly horror movie. I dunno if child abduction is family-friendly, but most of the scares here are minor, the main cast is generally likable, and there's no on-screen or even off-screen murder. I appreciate the horror of losing a child and the parents sell that pain really well. I feel like most movies would make the paranormal investigators some degree of comical, but again, there's an earnestness to them. I feel like I should like this more, considering I really appreciate sincerity, but this movies feels too.......Christian. The plot also feels really thin, like...there's a lot of scenes about really nothing. Every character introduced afterwards feels like they could inject something in the plot and they just...don't.Seginustemple - Competently made but relatively tame, with scares ranging from bright light/large fan to Ghostbusters fare - I get the sense this has been defanged by parody over the years, and if I had been around to see it in '82 I'd have probably been blown away. But once the paranormal crew shows up dressed in tan the rest of the movie goes down tasting like ecto cooler. You what really resonates though, is the underlying conflict about real estate. Naturally, the developer built the house on a former cemetary and the haunting merely indicates the entitlement of the dead to the land, skeletons popping out of fancy luxury coffins to protest new occupants. Nothing better to do in death than covet property, so lame. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bitto 04/14/24 2:15:42 PM #349:	Johnbobb posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6c3e0564.jpg --- I can't live forever With my head and my heart in the clouds <cite>Bitto posted [p:979904042] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Johnbobb posted... </cite><quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6c3e0564.jpg</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 04/14/24 2:24:20 PM #350:	Sticking with Phenomena as my prediction at this point. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:979904149] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Sticking with Phenomena as my prediction at this point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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