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WingsOfGood
04/04/24 1:42:13 PM
#148:


MrMojoRising posted...
You can also not vote for Biden and dislike Trump and even think he's worse than Biden.

No you cannot.

This means you DO NOT think Trump is that bad because YOU KNOW you are taking action to increase his chances of winning.
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Cemith
04/04/24 1:42:32 PM
#149:


MrMojoRising posted...
No, I asked the person what rights Trump is going to take away so I could specifically answer his hypothetical. He never answered me. People like him like to throw vague ideas and stuff and cower back when you ask them to explain.
Do you need someone to point it out to you?

How about a softball answer. Muslims.

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ssb_yunglink2
04/04/24 1:43:20 PM
#150:


MrMojoRising posted...
No, I asked the person what rights Trump is going to take away so I could specifically answer his hypothetical. He never answered me. People like him like to throw vague ideas and stuff and cower back when you ask them to explain.
In the very same topic you blamed Biden for the actions of the conservative supreme court that was appointed by the conservative former president. The same one running again. His name is Donald Trump.

Youre not posting in good faith.

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McMarbles
04/04/24 1:43:54 PM
#151:


MrMojoRising posted...
No, I asked the person what rights Trump is going to take away so I could specifically answer his hypothetical. He never answered me. People like him like to throw vague ideas and stuff and cower back when you ask them to explain.
Reproductive rights. Trans rights. Two right there.

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MrMojoRising
04/04/24 1:44:19 PM
#152:


WingsOfGood posted...


This means you DO NOT think Trump is that bad because YOU KNOW you are taking action to increase his chances of winning.

Not voting for Biden is not taking an action. It's an inaction. If Biden loses because of Israel is because of his actions. He took the greatest amount of actions that would lead him to lose. Taking your analysis, he's the one that doesn't think Trump is that bad. So why would I vote for him?

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Umbreon
04/04/24 1:45:11 PM
#153:


I have mojo tagged as a Trumper so I'm not surprised he's downplaying the threat of a Trump win. It's what he's rooting for after all.

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Holy_Cloud105
04/04/24 1:45:13 PM
#154:


MrMojoRising posted...
You're close. You can also not vote for Biden and dislike Trump and even think he's worse than Biden. Is that so hard to comprehend?

What you vote for isn't who you are. Just like I wouldn't say that you like Biden's Israel policy because you vote for him, don't insult people by saying that they want Trump because they won't vote for Biden.
By not doing A, it means you're okay with B happening. Your logic would have merit if there were other viable options, but there aren't. But reading this topic makes me realize you're a Trump supporter pretending you actually care about Gaza.

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Cemith
04/04/24 1:46:04 PM
#155:


Umbreon posted...
I have mojo tagged as a Trumper so I'm not surprised he's downplaying the threat of a Trump win. It's what he's rooting for after all.

Oh, I do too. But I'm hoping the mask slips more eventually so people stop taking him seriously.

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bluezero
04/04/24 1:46:06 PM
#156:


Umbreon posted...
I have mojo tagged as a Trumper so I'm not surprised he's downplaying the threat of a Trump win. It's what he's rooting for after all.
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McMarbles
04/04/24 1:46:13 PM
#157:


MrMojoRising posted...
Not voting for Biden is not taking an action. It's an inaction. If Biden loses because of Israel is because of his actions. He took the greatest amount of actions that would lead him to lose. Taking your analysis, he's the one that doesn't think Trump is that bad. So why would I vote for him?
What was that famous quote? Oh yes, it was "Evil trumphs but hey it's not my fault because I'm a good man who did nothing."
...wait, that's not right...

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WingsOfGood
04/04/24 1:47:06 PM
#158:


MrMojoRising posted...
Not voting for Biden is not taking an action. It's an inaction. If Biden loses because of Israel is because of his actions. He took the greatest amount of actions that would lead him to lose. Taking your analysis, he's the one that doesn't think Trump is that bad. So why would I vote for him?

It is action.

And you are OK with Trump. You think he is FINE. That means you think Biden is just as bad or worse.

It is extremely simple math.

IF you thought Trump was worse than Biden, you would NOT be ok having Trump which means you would not vote or refuse to vote in a way that increases Trump's chance to win.

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MrMojoRising
04/04/24 1:47:40 PM
#159:


McMarbles posted...
Reproductive rights. Trans rights. Two right there.

Both of those have been under assault were I live for the past 3 years by my Republican governor. Biden doesn't support expanding the court and hasn't created any serious federal commissions and inquiries to investigate and help people whose rights are being taken away. Many of the legislations passed in southern states you can make an argument for being unconstitutional - Biden hasn't shown any real support for these communities. He even said he'd veto medicare for all if it came to his desk. He hasn't shown me any reason to think that he'll fight for me through his domestic policy either.

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Cemith
04/04/24 1:48:35 PM
#160:


MrMojoRising posted...
Both of those have been under assault were I live for the past 3 years by my Republican governor. Biden doesn't support expanding the court and hasn't created any serious federal commissions and inquiries to investigate and help people whose rights are being taken away. Many of the legislations passed in southern states you can make an argument for being unconstitutional - Biden hasn't shown any real support for these communities. He even said he'd veto medicare for all if it came to his desk. He hasn't shown me any reason to think that he'll fight for me through his domestic policy either.

Dude you're not fooling anyone. Literally in this fucking post you have beef with a Republican governor.

You have to be trolling, I refuse to believe a real person is this dense on accident.

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MrMojoRising
04/04/24 1:48:45 PM
#161:


McMarbles posted...
What was that famous quote? Oh yes, it was "Evil trumphs but hey it's not my fault because I'm a good man who did nothing."
...wait, that's not right...

So you agree Biden is doing the most evil because he's helping Trump win by enabling a genocide?

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WingsOfGood
04/04/24 1:49:16 PM
#162:


MrMojoRising posted...
So you agree Biden is doing the most evil because he's helping Trump win by enabling a genocide?

did your mind begin to break as you made this post?
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Shadow_Don
04/04/24 1:49:34 PM
#163:


MrMojoRising posted...
hasn't created any serious federal commissions and inquiries to investigate and help people whose rights are being taken away

This is a lie.

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ssb_yunglink2
04/04/24 1:49:39 PM
#164:


MrMojoRising posted...
So you agree Biden is doing the most evil because he's helping Trump win by enabling a genocide?
You guys dont even try anymore


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ReiRei89
04/04/24 1:49:45 PM
#165:


legendary_zell posted...
Nothing, and anyone who advocates for that should be summarily disregarded. Luckily, I haven't seen anyone do that here. That's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about Biden losing votes, not Trump gaining them. The people pissed about Biden over Palestine are not going to vote for Trump. That's a strawman argument that hides the true danger here.
They might not vote Trump but they're certainly cool with getting him elected by staying home. If you truly cared about the Palestinians you wouldn't be looking the other way while a fascist who has already vowed to glass them when elected takes power.

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WingsOfGood
04/04/24 1:50:43 PM
#166:


ReiRei89 posted...
They might not vote Trump but they're certainly cool with getting him elected by staying home. If you truly cared about the Palestinians you wouldn't be looking the other way while a fascist who has already vowed to glass them when elected takes power.

exactly

if you are OK with Trump being re-elected you made that statement in the photo
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MrMojoRising
04/04/24 1:52:14 PM
#167:


Shadow_Don posted...
This is a lie.

Lol, the only way my state can protect its pregnant women is by passing a constitutional amendment. If we leave it up to Biden, we let our women die. But it's okay, he restarted my student loans.

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McMarbles
04/04/24 1:52:26 PM
#168:


MrMojoRising posted...
So you agree Biden is doing the most evil because he's helping Trump win by enabling a genocide?
...aight, I'm out. You're either a troll or an idiot and I'm not wasting another second on you.

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Shadow_Don
04/04/24 1:53:11 PM
#169:


MrMojoRising posted...
Lol, the only way my state can protect its pregnant women is by passing a constitutional amendment. If we leave it up to Biden, we let our women die. But it's okay, he restarted my student loans.

Fuck repaying your loans ask your college for a refund

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MrMojoRising
04/04/24 1:53:45 PM
#170:


If people don't vote for Joe because he's enabling a genocide, how is it not his fault if Trump wins? Like this is basic lol

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EbonTitanium
04/04/24 1:54:12 PM
#171:


Israel and Palestine wont even be in the top five issues when it comes down to election time, it may not even be in the top ten.

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Will_VIIII
04/04/24 1:56:08 PM
#172:


MrMojoRising posted...
If people don't vote for Joe because he's enabling a genocide, how is it not his fault if Trump wins? Like this is basic lol
It's the fault of people who don't understand (or willfully ignore) equivalency.

And there's the electoral college too. The people chose Hillary in 2016.

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ssb_yunglink2
04/04/24 1:56:15 PM
#173:


MrMojoRising posted...
If people don't vote for Joe because he's enabling a genocide, how is it not his fault if Trump wins? Like this is basic lol
You dont care about the genocide. You use it as a cudgel so that Trump can win. Youre too obvious.

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ClayGuida
04/04/24 1:56:32 PM
#174:


MrMojoRising posted...
So you agree Biden is doing the most evil because he's helping Trump win by enabling a genocide?
So you're saying you admit Trump is conning you?

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MrMojoRising
04/04/24 1:58:41 PM
#175:


I'm starting to think that there's there's nothing that Biden can do that would make y'all not vote for him. That's...healthy.

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ssb_yunglink2
04/04/24 1:59:12 PM
#176:


MrMojoRising posted...
I'm starting to think that there's there's nothing that Biden can do that would make y'all not vote for him. That's...healthy.
Shut the fuck up

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Cemith
04/04/24 1:59:24 PM
#177:


MrMojoRising posted...
If people don't vote for Joe because he's enabling a genocide, how is it not his fault if Trump wins? Like this is basic lol

Your silence with the other posts makes your shtick obvious.

No one should be taking you seriously.

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ClayGuida
04/04/24 2:00:33 PM
#178:


MrMojoRising posted...
I'm starting to think that there's there's nothing that Biden can do that would make y'all not vote for him. That's...healthy.
When the opposition is republican, there's not much he could do, besides go full republican with his policy and actions.

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LightningThief
04/04/24 2:02:25 PM
#179:


@legendary_zell
This topic about who is causing that effect though. It's Biden unless you think people that think facilitating genocide is categorically unacceptable to earn a FOR vote should abandon that view for some reason.
Which would still be partial blame to the people who are actively defending or participating in not voting, voting 3rd party, or voting for Trump.

Don't complain about things for Muslims and Palestinians getting more worse in Gaza or here in the United States if you are advocating for others to stay home or go 3rd party or vote Trump.

You say they aren't arguing "same thing both sides" but regardless their action literally is not even comprehending Trump winning is even more terrible for Palestinians. This isn't a matter of simple nuance. No matter if you are madly in love with Trump or Biden, or not.... one of those 2 people are going to win. Trump or Biden is going to be the next president in 2025, whether you like everything they've done or not, that's just reality.

That's not even getting into the list of other things like Abortion, LGBT, Trump wanting to be dictator, Trumls sycophants wanting to usher in christ totalitarian rule, etc. Because not voting at all and telling others "it doesn't matter who wins" already says you are "both sides the same"ing this to justify not voting.

We can literally set those other major issues aside as if you dont care about those things and focus just on Palestinians, Muslims and Gaza. Trump actively wants to do far more harm to Palestinians and Muslims both here in America and in Gaza. Even if we entertain "genocide Joe", the comparison between the 2 are not even close to being the same yet the spin is to desperately argue they are.

So like it or not, doing nothing is helping Trump, who will in fact make life even more worse for those people you claim to care about.
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Will_VIIII
04/04/24 2:03:37 PM
#181:


MrMojoRising posted...
I'm starting to think that there's there's nothing that Biden can do that would make y'all not vote for him. That's...healthy.
Who are you voting for?

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ssb_yunglink2
04/04/24 2:04:23 PM
#182:


Will_VIIII posted...
Who are you voting for?
Hes gonna say hes not voting, but obviously hes voting for trump.

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Dancedreamer
04/04/24 2:06:19 PM
#183:


MrMojoRising posted...
I'm starting to think that there's there's nothing that Biden can do that would make y'all not vote for him. That's...healthy.

Sure there's things Biden could do that would make me not vote for him.

He could do many of the things Trump wants to do to LGBT people. But he hasn't, and he won't. Meanwhile there's NO viable option for President that is pro-palestine. Letting a fascist win to make myself feel better about myself isn't going to do Palestine any good.

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TheGoldenEel
04/04/24 2:06:56 PM
#184:


reminder that voting is something you actively have to want to do

one of the biggest barriers to getting people to vote is enthusiasm

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Will_VIIII
04/04/24 2:07:18 PM
#185:


Dancedreamer posted...
Sure there's things Biden could do that would make me not vote for him.

He could do many of the things Trump wants to do to LGBT people. But he hasn't, and he won't. Meanwhile there's NO viable option for President that is pro-palestine. Letting a fascist win to make myself feel better about myself isn't going to do Palestine any good.
Furthermore, there'd be a viable replacement candidate for the Democrats in this absurd hypothetical

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MrMojoRising
04/04/24 2:07:30 PM
#186:


Will_VIIII posted...
Who are you voting for?

For President, probably no one. Both weed and abortion will be on the ballot, as well as some corrupt-ass judges that I want to vote against, though. I don't think the Debbie will win the Senate, but if we can rid ourselves of literal Voldemort as a senator, that'd be nice.

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WingsOfGood
04/04/24 2:07:35 PM
#187:


MrMojoRising posted...
I'm starting to think that there's there's nothing that Biden can do that would make y'all not vote for him. That's...healthy.

sounds familiar

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Will_VIIII
04/04/24 2:09:19 PM
#188:


MrMojoRising posted...
For President, probably no one. Both weed and abortion will be on the ballot, as well as some corrupt-ass judges that I want to vote against, though. I don't think the Debbie will win the Senate, but if we can rid ourselves of literal Voldemort as a senator, that'd be nice.
Ah, so the rapist who paraphrases Hitler becoming president isn't a concern for you then?

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MrMojoRising
04/04/24 2:11:39 PM
#189:


Dancedreamer posted...
Letting a fascist win to make myself feel better about myself isn't going to do Palestine any good.

No one who cares about Palestine feels good about this election, but the bottom line is that it's Biden's fault, just like the topic says. You can lecture at everyone too disgusted to vote for him, but if people are refusing to vote for him because they think he's enabling a genocide, I don't think there's much you can say to change their minds.

The energy would be better spent trying to get him to stop the genocide instead of trying to get people to vote for him in spite of it.

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ssb_yunglink2
04/04/24 2:11:47 PM
#190:


ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Hes gonna say hes not voting, but obviously hes voting for trump.


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Holy_Cloud105
04/04/24 2:13:56 PM
#191:


Will_VIIII posted...
Ah, so the rapist who paraphrases Hitler becoming president isn't a concern for you then?
Of course not. I bet he's a white a Christian male so none of Trump's policies will affect him in any way.

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Will_VIIII
04/04/24 2:14:08 PM
#192:


Holy_Cloud105 posted...
Of course not. I bet he's a white a Christian male so none of Trump's policies will affect him in any way.
We should let him answer though

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Trumble
04/04/24 2:18:55 PM
#193:


Once again we have a topic of Biden's die-hard supporters insisting that non-voters are responsible for what Trump does, but explicit Biden voters aren't responsible for what Biden does.

You can't have it both ways. If non-voters are at fault for Trump's actions, Biden voters are most certianly at fault for Biden's actions.

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Will_VIIII
04/04/24 2:19:41 PM
#194:


Trumble posted...
Once again we have a topic of Biden's die-hard supporters insisting that non-voters are responsible for what Trump does, but explicit Biden voters aren't responsible for what Biden does.

You can't have it both ways. If non-voters are at fault for Trump's actions, Biden voters are most certianly at fault for Biden's actions.
Not voting for Biden directly enables and benefits Trump and Project 2025.

Like it or not, it really is as simple as that.

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Heineken14
04/04/24 2:20:37 PM
#195:


MrMojoRising posted...
No one who cares about Palestine feels good about this election, but the bottom line is that it's Biden's fault, just like the topic says. You can lecture at everyone too disgusted to vote for him, but if people are refusing to vote for him because they think he's enabling a genocide, I don't think there's much you can say to change their minds.

The energy would be better spent trying to get him to stop the genocide instead of trying to get people to vote for him in spite of it.

It's less lecturing and more pointing out the horrendously stupid logic they have.

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MrMojoRising
04/04/24 2:21:04 PM
#196:


Holy_Cloud105 posted...
I bet he's a white a Christian male so none of Trump's policies will affect him in any way.

1/3 but my username says "Mr." so you don't get credit for that one

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Trumble
04/04/24 2:21:16 PM
#197:


Will_VIIII posted...
Not voting for Biden directly enables and benefits Trump and Project 2025.

Like it or not, it really is as simple as that.
Okay, but explain how someone not voting at all bears more responsibility for a candidate's actions than someone who specifically voted for the candidate in question.

Like, what logic makes it that Person A who does not vote is responsible for Trump's actions if he wins; yet Person B who specifically voted Biden is not responsible for Biden's actions if he wins.

Almost seems like it's just an "it's okay when we do it" argument.

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Cemith
04/04/24 2:21:22 PM
#198:


MrMojoRising posted...
For President, probably no one. Both weed and abortion will be on the ballot, as well as some corrupt-ass judges that I want to vote against, though. I don't think the Debbie will win the Senate, but if we can rid ourselves of literal Voldemort as a senator, that'd be nice.

The GOP thanks for your compromise

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