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bobspacethespacecow
04/01/24 7:25:19 PM
#51:


coyot posted...
I lost to children at a chess club. Atm Im ranked (1640 Elo) 60% better than one minute players.

The same week, I beat a man who bought cheap stocks during the 2006 recession, I resigned against an 8-year-old Filipina.

My bullet peak was 1900.
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NoxObscuras
04/01/24 7:28:54 PM
#52:


UnfairRepresent posted...
This just feels like sour grapes.
That's all it ever has been. They literally only make a big stink about it when a transgender person wins. When they lose, then they don't care at all.

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FolkenRawr
04/01/24 7:29:40 PM
#53:


HashtagSEP posted...
Well, you know. Can't have a potential physical advantage in... Darts.


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LonelyStoner
04/01/24 7:31:59 PM
#54:


Irony posted...
Darts isn't a sport
Neither are video games, but people have argued over it for years. (This isnt me disagreeing with you, btw.)

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VeggetaX
04/01/24 7:32:26 PM
#55:


Darts is a sport

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Kurt_Russel
04/01/24 7:33:41 PM
#56:


Get fucked, nerds!

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ZMythos
04/01/24 7:59:37 PM
#57:


Darts has no reason to be separated by gender.

Most individual sports don't.

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UnfairRepresent
04/02/24 4:37:31 AM
#58:


ZMythos posted...
Darts has no reason to be separated by gender.

Most individual sports don't.
CE take

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Karovorak
04/02/24 5:08:30 AM
#59:


ZMythos posted...
Darts has no reason to be separated by gender.

Most individual sports don't.

Darts is one of the sports which are technically not separated by gender, but still have women only tournaments.

There is no Men division in Darts. The highest league/tournaments are open to everyone.

It's just that women rarely qualify for it, so they keep "women only" tournaments to support and promote women in this sport.

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04/02/24 8:02:41 AM
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LSGW_Zephyra
04/02/24 8:08:41 AM
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Makes me think of MTG tournaments and how male dominated those events are. It's not that men are better, but the entire culture behind the game has been toxic to women for so long that getting women to play was nigh impossible. Only in recent years has that begun to change

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UnfairRepresent
04/02/24 8:37:28 AM
#61:


LSGW_Zephyra posted...
Makes me think of MTG tournaments and how male dominated those events are. It's not that men are better, but the entire culture behind the game has been toxic to women for so long that getting women to play was nigh impossible. Only in recent years has that begun to change
I would not be comfortable around MTG players if I was female

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Tanthalas
04/02/24 8:44:23 AM
#62:


I agree that transgender women competing in womens competitions is a real issue.

But darts? Lol

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
04/02/24 8:57:03 AM
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Why is darts something that has a men and women's league?

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Ilishe
04/02/24 9:03:40 AM
#64:


UnfairRepresent posted...


A TRANS darts player has won a women-only contest just days after claiming a title against men.

Wait a sec. How is this person competing in both?

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Goldenguy
04/02/24 9:09:23 AM
#65:


DipDipDiver posted...
I get it in sports where physicality gives a clear advantage, but with darts it's literally the one who throws darts the best is the one who fucking wins

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DipDipDiver
04/02/24 10:15:06 AM
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I can understand and acknowledge that there are fewer women competing in this kind of stuff and that's what necessitates a female league, but in that case they should be happy to have another skilled woman competitor. The reason they see this as an issue is because they still view her as a man

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CSCA33
04/02/24 10:34:17 AM
#68:


Congrats to her for winning!

It's unfortunate we still have such vocal bigotry on display though.

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mario2000
04/02/24 10:41:00 AM
#69:


How do you get conservatives to care about womens' sports?

Tell them a trans person is involved.

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texanfan27
04/02/24 10:46:18 AM
#70:


DipDipDiver posted...
I get it in sports where physicality gives a clear advantage, but with darts it's literally the one who throws darts the best is the one who fucking wins

pretty much how I see it. Unless there is a clear presentable difference between the male and female game state, then doesnt matter

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CSCA33
04/02/24 11:02:02 AM
#71:


texanfan27 posted...
pretty much how I see it. Unless there is a clear presentable difference between the male and female game state, then doesnt matter
Blanket bans are prejudicially discriminatory and harmful. Having common-sense rules and regulations surrounding hormone therapy (time started, levels tested, etc.) allow for equitable participation.

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ZMythos
04/02/24 2:22:16 PM
#72:


LSGW_Zephyra posted...
Makes me think of MTG tournaments and how male dominated those events are. It's not that men are better, but the entire culture behind the game has been toxic to women for so long that getting women to play was nigh impossible. Only in recent years has that begun to change
The same narrative is true for most sports and competitions.

Which is why there's no reason to be separated by gender.

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Tanthalas
04/02/24 3:56:28 PM
#74:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Like who has does the best performance, or is it something more technical like everyone doing the same trick?

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Tanthalas
04/02/24 4:07:44 PM
#75:


ZMythos posted...
The same narrative is true for most sports
The definition of sport here is probably doing some really heavy lifting for this to be true.

You'd need the sport to have no reliance on power and probably endurance for this to be true, like dart throwing.

Even a sport like table tennis has a male advantage.

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Tanthalas
04/02/24 4:15:02 PM
#77:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Oh lol. Yeah I see it now.

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UnfairRepresent
04/02/24 7:15:10 PM
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ZMythos
04/04/24 10:17:37 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

I'll concede this point, nobody should be the target of harassment for engaging in a competition and I'm sorry that you experienced even a little bit. In fact, the formation of women's leagues is often attributed to being forcefully excluded from the male spaces, and not because of perceived differences in ability.

In a better world, women in sports and other competitive environments wouldn't be targeted by those kinds of (lack of a better word here) microaggressions.


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