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Zwijn
03/30/24 10:50:34 AM
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VeggetaX
03/30/24 10:52:30 AM
#52:


She understood her initial post was poorly worded and lacked context, even if you White Knights don't which I fully expected since this is CE, I think it's good to say everything makes more sense now and I'm at a better understanding. Optics is a thing and I hope some of you learn it despite your drive for progressive and equality.

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DarthAragorn
03/30/24 10:53:06 AM
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As a white male gamer this is one of the most offensive things I've ever seen and I am outraged.

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VeggetaX
03/30/24 10:53:41 AM
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hockeybabe89 posted...
So I assume you also believed that everyone who said "Black Lives Matter" meant "Only Black Lives Matter"
That's a bad assumption and bad comparison. The vast majority knows what BLM means. This particular post made by Kelly needed better optics.

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ai123
03/30/24 10:54:05 AM
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VeggetaX posted...
Had she simply said "there's room for everyone in the gaming industry" there would be more support of that statement. But she only said that after denigrating a group of people.

Explain how she denigrated anyone? She didn't insult or belittle white male gamers.

This is getting silly.


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Zwijn
03/30/24 10:54:44 AM
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VeggetaX posted...
She understood her initial post was poorly worded and lacked context, even if you White Knights don't which I fully expected since this is CE, I think it's good to say everything makes more sense now and I'm at a better understanding. Optics is a thing and I hope some of you learn it despite your drive for progressive and equality.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/745f30b6.png
Everyone knew what she meant, the only people who would take it badly are 100% chuds or acting in bad faith. Also your last sentence got you on the shitlist.
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Dungeater
03/30/24 10:56:08 AM
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disingenuous person suspects honest person of dishonesty

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VeggetaX
03/30/24 10:56:50 AM
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Zwijn posted...
Everyone knew what she meant, the only people who would take it badly are 100% chuds or acting in bad faith. Also your last sentence got you on the shitlist.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/93f501c4.jpg
Is that why she had to retract her statement? Your opinion on me doesn't mean shit LOL. Either you can block me now or I can block you.

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VeggetaX
03/30/24 10:57:55 AM
#59:


ai123 posted...
She didn't insult or belittle white male gamers.
You're right. My mistake. I initially took it as such but because poorly how it was written.

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Zwijn
03/30/24 10:58:45 AM
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VeggetaX posted...
Is that why she had to retract her statement? Your opinion on me doesn't mean shit LOL. Either you can block me now or I can block you.
She retracted her statement because incel gamers threw a hissyfit and you dont want those insanos after you, but you know that. Also go ahead and block me, I dont block others.
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lucariopikmin
03/30/24 10:59:27 AM
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VeggetaX posted...
That's a bad assumption and bad comparison. The vast majority knows what BLM means. This particular post made by Kelly needed better optics.
Everyone here but you understood what Kelly meant, you know, the vast majority. You're just using every excuse possible to salvage this flopic for attention because you can't handle looking like the bad guy.
Wanna come up with a better excuse or are you gonna apologize for thinking she made it for a different reason after she explained herself better which did not change the reason that she made it?

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ai123
03/30/24 11:01:12 AM
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VeggetaX posted...
You're right. My mistake. I initially took it as such but because poorly how it was written.
She didn't express herself particularly well, but I could not detect any malice in her post.

Did she want attention and likes? I guess so, but no more than anyone else posting anything on the internet.

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SpiritSephiroth
03/30/24 11:02:24 AM
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Definitely sounded like malice in her post. Change that race with any other race and people would instantly call it racist.

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Dungeater
03/30/24 11:03:14 AM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
Definitely malice in her post. Change that race with any other race and people would instantly call it racist.
i am suddenly unsurprised that u made japan ur fetish mecca

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SpiritSephiroth
03/30/24 11:04:09 AM
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Dungeater posted...
i am suddenly unsurprised that u made japan ur fetish mecca

I'm not even white myself. I'm asian, but of course put two unrelated things together and try to form a narrative about me why don't you.

Edit: Also its only a fetish if its Asian thing is also incredibly racist.

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Dungeater
03/30/24 11:06:05 AM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
I'm not even white myself. I'm asian, but of course put two unrelated things together and try to form a narrative about me why don't you.

Edit: Also its only a fetish if its Asian thing is also incredibly racist.
it is certainly not only a fetish if its asian, thats a weird conclusion to reach from what i said

and it must be very useful that u bought into white victimhood koolaid. tho, i am sorry for assuming

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VeggetaX
03/30/24 11:06:10 AM
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lucariopikmin posted...
Everyone here but you understood what Kelly meant, you know, the vast majority. You're just using every excuse possible to salvage this flopic for attention because you can't handle looking like the bad guy.
Wanna come up with a better excuse or are you gonna apologize for thinking she made it for a different reason after she explained herself better which did not change the reason that she made it?
Unfortunately the vast majority in this topic on CE isn't even a spec when it comes to the rest of the Internet. Do you think we're the only one taking about this subject and weren't taken back by Kelly's post?

Here is an example:

https://twitter.com/GamerHijabi/status/1773384449146716194?s=20

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VeggetaX
03/30/24 11:07:02 AM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
I'm not even white myself. I'm asian, but of course put two unrelated things together and try to form a narrative about me why don't you.

Edit: Also its only a fetish if its Asian thing is also incredibly racist.
LMAo don't engage with hair.

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SpiritSephiroth
03/30/24 11:08:06 AM
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Dungeater posted...
it is certainly not only a fetish if its asian, thats a weird reach

and it must be very useful that u bought into white victimhood koolaid. tho, i am sorry for assuming

Funny that you made the reach then. Conflicting internal views there?

I didn't buy into anything. Although seeing as I'm Asian, you do know we can also come to our own opinions and views without you accusing us of "buying into" something, as if we can't think clearly if its not entirely agreeable to how you see the world.

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SpiritSephiroth
03/30/24 11:08:39 AM
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VeggetaX posted...
LMAo don't engage with hair.

Their username really does check out lmao.

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hockeybabe89
03/30/24 11:09:48 AM
#71:


VeggetaX posted...
She understood her initial post was poorly worded and lacked context, even if you White Knights don't which I fully expected since this is CE, I think it's good to say everything makes more sense now and I'm at a better understanding. Optics is a thing and I hope some of you learn it despite your drive for progressive and equality.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/745f30b6.png
If people need to coddled to not be against minorities in gaming, then fuck them and their beliefs. Optics are fucking bullshit. If someone needs to be convinced, then they were never on your side. Good people, smart people, don't need to be convinced to be correct.

And if you say "then you'll never win", oh well. Clearly that means the world is doomed. This woman is a spineless idiot for defending herself.

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Dungeater
03/30/24 11:12:04 AM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
Funny that you made the reach then. Conflicting internal views there?
what is conflicting about what i said? the existence of fetishizing one race does not preclude the fetishization of other races. are u like unfamiliar with how hard other nonwhite races are fetishized or what

SpiritSephiroth posted...

I didn't buy into anything. Although seeing as I'm Asian, you do know we can also come to our own opinions and views without you accusing us of "buying into" something, as if we can't think clearly if its not entirely agreeable to how you see the world.


u stated there was "definitely malice in her post"

u bought into white victimhood full stop

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hockeybabe89
03/30/24 11:14:16 AM
#73:


SpiritSephiroth posted...
Definitely sounded like malice in her post. Change that race with any other race and people would instantly call it racist.
Because reminding people that white people would play games would definitely be racist. It's unfortunate that the average person isn't intelligent enough to understand context.

It's sad there's a 50/50 chance I die in the next few years because these lower intelligence people vote and think their opinions matter.

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lucariopikmin
03/30/24 11:15:04 AM
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VeggetaX posted...
Unfortunately the vast majority in this topic on CE isn't even a spec when it comes to the rest of the Internet. Do you think we're the only one taking about this subject and weren't taken back by Kelly's post?
So 1 more person, who just like you, forces their context on her post, means you're correct? It's also funny how you leave out everyone who agrees with her for no reason when claiming that a "vast majority" is against her.
It also does not change anything about the fact that you kept insisting you were right no matter what when everyone called you out on being wrong which you still can't admit even after her own words show that you're wrong.

You should stick to leeching of Vegy's name, it's the only reason why anyone takes you even remotely serious anyway.

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VeggetaX
03/30/24 11:16:03 AM
#75:


hockeybabe89 posted...
Optics are fucking bullshit
Disagreed. They are not. A lot of people say shit they don't mean to say or they just word things poorly that may come off offensive and wrong. Communication is very important when it comes to things like this.

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SpiritSephiroth
03/30/24 11:18:07 AM
#76:


Dungeater posted...
what is conflicting about what i said? the existence of fetishizing one race does not preclude the fetishization of other races. are u like unfamiliar with how hard other nonwhite races are fetishized or what

Nonwhite races? So fetishizing a race only includes races that aren't white? Could you explain the logic behind the meaning of fetishizing?

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SpiritSephiroth
03/30/24 11:19:14 AM
#77:


Dungeater posted...
u stated there was "definitely malice in her post"

u bought into white victimhood full stop

Yeah I did. Seeing the amount of full blown racism on Twitter, towards whites and non-whites, I definitely see the malice there.

I didn't buy into anything.

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Dungeater
03/30/24 11:19:50 AM
#78:


SpiritSephiroth posted...
Nonwhite races? So fetishizing a race only includes races that aren't white? Could you explain the logic behind the meaning of fetishizing?
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6f7e63df.jpg

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VeggetaX
03/30/24 11:20:20 AM
#79:


lucariopikmin posted...
So 1 more person, who just like you, forces their context on her post, means you're correct?
I highly doubt if I showed you a million examples it would change your mind.

lucariopikmin posted...
It's also funny how you leave out everyone who agrees with her for no reason when claiming that a "vast majority" is against her.
I did not say there weren't people who agreed with her.

lucariopikmin posted...
It also does not change anything about the fact that you kept insisting you were right no matter what when everyone called you out on being wrong which you still can't admit even after her own words show that you're wrong.
Yes I was in my right to feel what I felt in the way she portrayed her message that lots of people interpret in their own way. You can disagree if you want, that's fine. This is a dumb logic as if everyone tells you're wrong then you must be wrong right?

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VeggetaX
03/30/24 11:22:07 AM
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Dude I told you to ignore hair. He's another fake progressive that gets off on villainizing people in order to validate himself.

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SpiritSephiroth
03/30/24 11:23:16 AM
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Dungeater posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6f7e63df.jpg

So instead of explaining yourself you just upload a picture. People are attracted to all races.

Have you not seen how white women are treated like angels in places like Asia? Or how Latino women are fawned over (especially where I'm from in London). So yeah those aren't "fetishes".

If they were everyone who dates a certain race they find attractive would be fetishizing their partner. Unless you can explain the logic behind it.

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Dungeater
03/30/24 11:23:20 AM
#82:


yea thats me

always seeking validation for my fake beliefs

thats a normal thing to say someone does

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Dungeater
03/30/24 11:24:04 AM
#83:


SpiritSephiroth posted...
So instead of explaining yourself you just upload a picture. People are attracted to all races.
yes because youre going on a crazy tangent based on somethin i didnt say cuz youre looking for a fight

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SpiritSephiroth
03/30/24 11:24:21 AM
#84:


VeggetaX posted...
Dude I told you to ignore hair. He's another fake progressive that gets off on villainizing people in order to validate himself.

Yeah I know, it's just funny seeing how their logic breaks down when you ask them to explain themselves. It's like seeing a broken robot malfunction even more than it already is lol.

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Dungeater
03/30/24 11:24:50 AM
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uh... huh

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SrRobotniks
03/30/24 11:30:36 AM
#86:


VeggetaX posted...
Dude I told you to ignore hair. He's another fake progressive that gets off on villainizing people in order to validate himself.
unironically, this, ignore hair
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lucariopikmin
03/30/24 11:30:38 AM
#87:


VeggetaX posted...
I highly doubt if I showed you a million examples it would change your mind.
I actually would and I'd change my mind as long as you're willing to show that it's actually a majority. And why did you ignore the part where said person forced their own context on her post, weren't you complaining about others reaching earlier or is that fine when someone who agrees with you does it?

VeggetaX posted...
I did not say there weren't people who agreed with her.
That does not address that sentence at all, that's you responding to something that never got said.

VeggetaX posted...
Yes I was in my right to feel what I felt in the way she portrayed her message that lots of people interpret in their own way. You can disagree if you want, that's fine.
Nothing wrong with that and never said there is anything wrong with that anyway.

VeggetaX posted...
This is a dumb logic as if everyone tells you're wrong then you must be wrong right?
Care to actually stick to the argument instead of making things up?
What's dumb is claiming that you're right no matter what because your opinion is worth more than others while being unwilling to listen to anyone and still not wanting to admit that you were wrong after she clarified herself.

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Gobstoppers12
03/30/24 11:30:42 AM
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The fact that she had to clarify "no hate to white dudes" means that she knows exactly how this statement looks, but she chose to make it anyway.

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03/30/24 11:33:24 AM
#89:


Tyranthraxus posted...
This topic was surely made in good faith


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JuanCarlos1
03/30/24 11:35:23 AM
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I understood what she implied, but at the same time part of me goes "this also sounds antagonizing to a good chunk of the demographic sensitive to this".

My point is, if you work at marketing for xbox, why even make the tweet? Cause youre accomplishing the contrary of what theyre paying you for?

Its also a tired topic, cause representation its at its highest point ever. Maybe still not 100% where it should be, but still trending towards that path. Just let it be an organic thing.

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