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Basically would mean you only ever mayor scum lynches

Lopen posted...

Basically would mean you only ever mayor scum lynches

well not necessarily, but I get your point.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

So either he's confirmed town and his erratic reads can be given more weight

Which reads would those be? Say Lopen flips town, what do you take from that?

If you are scum like I think but Im wrong about Lopen this reads like trying to set up two consecutive mislynches. Well if Lopen is town we can just do a Lopen memorial lynch tomorrow by following his reads. Conveniently that means we can lynch anyone we want!

You can also set up two consecutive mislynches by intentionally avoiding my reads to avoid that dastardly fd scheme

Lynch Chris not because I said he's scum and not because he's voting me

Because his reads have been even less consistent than mine and he's gotten no heat for it

Wallz is probably terrified of a Chris lynch because he knows Chris is gf

Lopen posted...

Wallz is probably terrified of a Chris lynch because he knows Chris is gf

I it was sltsn/chris

I thought it was*

Lopen posted...

And it's probably just Chris + Sultan in that case

Always lynch Chris then if he doesn't flip GF lynch Sultan

It is always wallz if Chris is gf

His preemptive attacking of fd feels very scummy here

Anyway I do recommend using a Pokmon to super confirm fd. He pretty much can't be scum if you can't mayor me

I would only not use a Pokmon if one of the following is true

You're sure I'm scum
You're sure fd is town

Otherwise use it to clear him

If there is a way to attempt to mayor me and undo the mayor I'm OK with that too

If you outright don't mayor me just treat fd as confirmed town-- no point in dwelling on it in that case

Dont get it twisted. Im asking FD if Lopens reads are erratic and all over the place, but FD implies using Lopens reads if he flips town, what did FD even take away from these erratic reads?

My reads reached a firm conclusion

Perhaps the most firm stance of anyone in the game right now

Town
Corrik
Sbell
Mzero
FD (probably even without mayoral confirmation)

Scum
Chris
Wallz (if Chris is gf)
Sultan (if Chris is not gf)

Lopen posted...

Wallz is probably terrified of a Chris lynch because he knows Chris is gf

Im town bro. I dont hate a Chris lynch, I am apathetic about Chris and have him and Corrik in my ??? pile.

##Vote: Wallz

An ant have no quarrel with a boot

wallmasterz posted...

Im town bro. I dont hate a Chris lynch, I am apathetic about Chris and have him and Corrik in my ??? pile.

Lynch Chris tomorrow and townclear yourself then. Chris->Sultan is the path

Come on guys

I'm alive now

Let's solve the game. You are speaking to confirmed town who will surely never get another chance to do glorious things like speak... or vote... again

It's so sad

There is a difference between erratic ramblings of possible scum and erratic ramblings of confirmed town.

I'm not saying we take this final thoughts as gospel since they have, in fact, been all over the place from one hour to the next. But it gives us SOME perspective on what he's saying once his alignment is confirmed and it will serve to be less of a distraction even if he's town. Again, I'm speaking as someone who was HAPPY as scum to let Lopen keep "Lopening" all last game and I was sad when he died because it made my job more difficult. Which isn't to say that Lopen is impossible of having correct reads, but it's difficult for us to locate the correct ones when he reaches the point where he indiscriminately reaches every possible conclusion.

And hey, maybe he's just scum and is hoping that Mayor will prevent the lynch, because why wouldn't it? There is nothing special about me that should make a lynch that I hammered un-mayorable. The "Cthulhu" stuff is just memes, not some special attribute that makes a lynch un-mayorable. The only special thing is the fact that day continues.

That was a response to 113 btw. Didn't quote it because i wasn't expecting half a dozen posts in between while I was typing it, lol

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Lopen keep "Lopening" all last game and I was sad when he died because it made my job more difficult

This is nonsense by the way

You were able to control town into a docile state with the worst gameplan ever without my chaotic element. And I know you know this.

Throw FD back into the "with Sultan" POE

Always lynch Chris first and decide between those two

Final Updated Votals of Mystery
Lopen(4) - Chris, Wallz, Sultan, FD
Chris(1) - Lopen
Wallz - (Lopen)
FD - (Lopen)
MZero - (Lopen)
Sbell - (FD), (Lopen)

Lopen has been LYNCHED. Day will continue to EoD.

@Lopen you may continue to post.

Lopen posted...

You were able to control town into a docile state with the worst gameplan ever without my chaotic element. And I know you know this.

I only had to cash in my town-seeming equity to lead town with a more firm hand because you weren't around to continue to lead it astray. If you didn't die when you did I think we keep rolling the dice on letting you take the lead. :shrug:

Forceful_Dragon posted...

If you didn't die when you did I think we keep rolling the dice on letting you take the lead

Doesn't make a lot of sense when I nearly got Sultan killed the day before and only stopped because Chris and Ulti were bodyguarding him

You're either scum who is trying to spin a narrative or town who is delusional about my role in the last game. I don't tend to associate "delusional" with you so you should consider a different discussion.

Anyway why are you talking about my dead reads. I'm right here and I'm going to flip town. Pick my brain while I'm alive

Here's a brain pick. What exactly were you trying to accomplish day 1? Chris was able to progress a narrative of "Lopen must be stopped" which resulted in MZero freezing your vote... but it was only possible because you DID appear to be indiscriminately placing a vote on everyone.

Unless I missed it, I don't believe we've had an explanation of that behavior.

That's a boring question. I'm going to flip soon. Here's a question for you-- why do you think scum Lopen does that?

Lopen posted...

Anyway I do recommend using a Pokmon to super confirm fd. He pretty much can't be scum if you can't mayor me

I would only not use a Pokmon if one of the following is true

You're sure I'm scum
You're sure fd is town

Otherwise use it to clear him

I said mayor to keep it vague and simple but it doesn't work exactly like a normal mayor. I don't want to go into too much detail but it wouldn't work against FD's power since I need to do it before the lynch is decided

Who was Lopen on when his vote was frozen?

Mzero

well if you are town at least we successfully screwed town together

Truly a Lopen moment.

Lopen posted...

That's a boring question. I'm going to flip soon. Here's a question for you-- why do you think scum Lopen does that?

I don't know. Why was I supposed to think Ulti listed 5 people before we knew his PM from the MZero scan (which may or may not have been real)?

It's a thing that didn't make sense and hasn't been explained since. And sure I could wait 11 hours or you could give us something now and we could move on.

Look last game maybe I acted like a godfather but this time I acted like a [redacted]

cant pin this one on me if you're town bub

By the way @Forceful_Dragon

you chopped lopen because of my next generation spy information on him, yes?

Chris this is your chance

I'm about to become more powerful than you can imagine.

Talk through the game with me. Let's go into the mechanics of your ability and stuff. Give me a reason to think you're town who just hasn't cared to pay any attention to the game and not scum.

Lopen posted...

Chris this is your chance

I'm about to become more powerful than you can imagine.

Talk through the game with me. Let's go into the mechanics of your ability and stuff. Give me a reason to think you're town who just hasn't cared to pay any attention to the game and not scum.

I actually cant or I lose it but if you think about it its pretty obv lol

Also I just realized FD chopped me before I had a chance to claim

Very poor form for town

Ok Chris

You're town
I'm town

Talk through the game with me. Let's go through your POE

Anyway I have paid attention tbh. I have had some good town reads! Like BCT. I am proud I found him. I just haven't been super active, because I am old.

I reach a very easy conclusion if you're town-- do you?

I want everyone to commit to a final 2 scum under the assumption I will flip town

well let's see, if you're town then for one fuck. for two:

Corrik
Sbell
Mzero
FD
Sultan
Wallz
Just got to find the town here, right?

Despite what you've told me this entire time I just feel like wallz has been town this entire time tbh. I liked the way he read through the game and his vehemence on you, even if it is misplaced.

I dont know why a wolf Sultan gives a gun to Lea like that when the funniest thing to do would be to shoot sultan with that very same game.

FD's ability to end day early feels completely out of pocket for a wolf to have if I think about it.

It's probably something stupid like sbell/corrik and we've been talking to ourselves the entire game

If I ignore mech entirely FD has been bad

SirChris posted...

By the way @Forceful_Dragon

you chopped lopen because of my next generation spy information on him, yes?

Yes, of course

Oh, and I think mzero is town because I believe he has a mayor.

which also I realized could be why a scum lopen would continue to fight

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Yes, of course

thank you.

SirChris posted...

If I ignore mech entirely FD has been bad

Why do you ignore mechanics to not suspect Sultan but have hesitence to ignore them for FD

Lopen posted...

Also I just realized FD chopped me before I had a chance to claim

Very poor form for town

You're still not claiming so I fail to see the difference.

Lopen posted...

Why do you ignore mechanics to not suspect Sultan but have hesitence to ignore them for FD

It's not mech in sultan's case, but rather decision making as scum