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darkace77450
04/03/24 7:35:23 AM
#301:


Takuya_Lee posted...
Agreed. Smith only gets one shot at it though, so he had to wait for this moment.

If he misses, this case is dead and Trump walks. I know Smith is frustrated, but he needs to wait for the sure shot before pulling the trigger.
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Takuya_Lee
04/03/24 7:47:54 AM
#302:


darkace77450 posted...
If he misses, this case is dead and Trump walks. I know Smith is frustrated, but he needs to wait for the sure shot before pulling the trigger.

Yeah I think the jury instructions order is the sure shot

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Alucard188
04/03/24 8:36:31 AM
#303:


https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1775367828184375465?t=ns2WtKx_dITt-nL6uPJGug&s=19

https://twitter.com/AWeissmann_/status/1775376924811935887?t=RFJQFV12LGNBG2H6NmLMog&s=19

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TomClark
04/03/24 8:37:50 AM
#304:


Game on.

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dummy420
04/03/24 8:47:18 AM
#305:


Jack Smith has the most damning case and it's the most impeded. I'm not gonna pretend to know much but from what I've seen he seems to have great patience and knows what he's up against so I'm sure he's thought this through thoroughly.

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Cemith
04/03/24 9:44:34 AM
#306:


I get the precedent for only being able to prevent a judge only one time, but I still think it's fucking broken that Cannon has been able to stymie the case for about a year now with no repercussions.

Let's cross our fingers, I guess.

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Starks
04/03/24 9:47:42 AM
#307:


Cannon is what happens when you're a Federalist Society groupie with no trial experience yet stumble into a lifetime federal judgeship. And the first case you get is of national consequence.

Everyone thinks they're the next Earl Warren and can just wing it.

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Zikten
04/03/24 11:11:24 AM
#308:


I hope they don't fuck this up....
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CableZL
04/03/24 11:15:49 AM
#309:


https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/1775540694729339197

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a3c99258.jpg

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darkace77450
04/03/24 11:18:06 AM
#310:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/1775540694729339197

Johnatakis showed contrition at trial, but changed his story later.. based on his audience

Most of them have done so. Most of them got away with it.
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Alucard188
04/03/24 11:30:45 AM
#311:


darkace77450 posted...
Most of them have done so. Most of them got away with it.

Most have only shown contrition in the courtroom, and outwardly taunted and flaunted after the sentence was passed. It isn't smart to do it in pre-sentence custody.

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CableZL
04/03/24 3:00:53 PM
#312:


https://twitter.com/Brandi_Buchman/status/1775595453469315418

Imagine going to prison for a couple of decades for a dude who doesn't give a shit about you and still trying to help him delay lawsuits against him.

It's a cult

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RchHomieQuanChi
04/03/24 3:03:20 PM
#313:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/Brandi_Buchman/status/1775595453469315418

Imagine going to prison for a couple of decades for a dude who doesn't give a shit about you and still trying to help him delay lawsuits against him.

It's a cult

Let's be honest: these people have nothing else going for them in their lives. They're hateful, abhorrent excuses for human beings who inevitably sabotage their personal relationships to the point where the only thing they have left is their devotion to this orange fuckface.

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CADE_FOSTER
04/03/24 3:08:42 PM
#314:


See they think exactly like Trump but he is the only one that works for they will go to jail
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CableZL
04/03/24 3:16:26 PM
#315:


https://twitter.com/NYadvocateJKL/status/1775569856009490799

The court rejected Trump's bond in the civil fraud trial? Not sure what this means as far as deadlines and stuff go...

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CADE_FOSTER
04/03/24 3:18:50 PM
#316:


yes start seizing his shit
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TomClark
04/03/24 3:19:44 PM
#317:


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RchHomieQuanChi
04/03/24 3:28:11 PM
#319:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/NYadvocateJKL/status/1775569856009490799

The court rejected Trump's bond in the civil fraud trial? Not sure what this means as far as deadlines and stuff go...

Wait WHAT?!

Lmfaoooooooo

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CADE_FOSTER
04/03/24 3:28:46 PM
#320:


god i hope they start taking his shit i want to see his followers crying and trump homeless
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TheGoldenEel
04/03/24 3:31:33 PM
#321:


Do we think this an attempt at a delay tactic or just pure incompetence this time

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TomClark
04/03/24 3:32:16 PM
#322:


TheGoldenEel posted...
Do we think this an attempt at a delay tactic or just pure incompetence this time

Yes.

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BewmHedshot
04/03/24 3:32:58 PM
#323:


Cemith posted...
I get the precedent for only being able to prevent a judge only one time, but I still think it's fucking broken that Cannon has been able to stymie the case for about a year now with no repercussions.

Let's cross our fingers, I guess.
In a functioning democracy Cannon would've been removed by the Senate six months ago.
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CADE_FOSTER
04/03/24 3:33:33 PM
#324:


TheGoldenEel posted...
Do we think this an attempt at a delay tactic or just pure incompetence this time
both
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RchHomieQuanChi
04/03/24 3:34:16 PM
#325:


BewmHedshot posted...
In a functioning democracy Cannon would've been removed by the Senate six months ago.

In a functioning democracy, Trump wouldn't have come anywhere near the White House in the first place.

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toreysback
04/03/24 3:46:13 PM
#326:


he'll tell them he can't provide a financial statement because he's under audit

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CableZL
04/03/24 3:50:47 PM
#327:


https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1775606935062266125

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Cemith
04/03/24 3:51:32 PM
#328:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1775606935062266125

This is my shocked face

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Heineken14
04/03/24 3:51:43 PM
#329:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1775606935062266125

*flips desk*

Gods damnit. I put money on him NOT being a far right lunatic!

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CADE_FOSTER
04/03/24 3:54:09 PM
#330:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1775606935062266125
qanon and maga def arent terrorists tho
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TomClark
04/03/24 3:55:44 PM
#331:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1775606935062266125

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mystic_belmont
04/03/24 3:56:02 PM
#332:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/NYadvocateJKL/status/1775569856009490799

The court rejected Trump's bond in the civil fraud trial? Not sure what this means as far as deadlines and stuff go...
Make sure you give the court everything they are asking for, or else you are going to be fucked.

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Halo478
04/03/24 4:00:02 PM
#333:


Trump still scared to show his taxes

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Tyranthraxus
04/03/24 4:20:02 PM
#334:


Jack Smith can literally wait for a verdict to have Cannon removed for Bias. There is no reason for him to file to have her removed unless not doing so means Trump walks right then and there. If he can get a guilty verdict out of the trial, however obtuse, then all he has to do is appeal the stupid sentence Trump will undoubtedly get for a reasonable one.

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Alucard188
04/03/24 4:25:00 PM
#335:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/NYadvocateJKL/status/1775569856009490799

The court rejected Trump's bond in the civil fraud trial? Not sure what this means as far as deadlines and stuff go...

Wait a second. He was given a soft lob, that all he had to do was gently put it into the net, and he still managed to smack himself in the face? He only had to pay 40% of the full bond for the appeal, and he still fucked it up. Are you kidding me? This is the motherfucker that the GOP is running to the polls in November.

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Cemith
04/03/24 4:38:19 PM
#336:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Jack Smith can literally wait for a verdict to have Cannon removed for Bias. There is no reason for him to file to have her removed unless not doing so means Trump walks right then and there. If he can get a guilty verdict out of the trial, however obtuse, then all he has to do is appeal the stupid sentence Trump will undoubtedly get for a reasonable one.

The issue with this, is that Cannon can stall the trial long enough for Trump to get back in the office, by then he is effectively shielded from prosecution.

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CableZL
04/03/24 4:42:24 PM
#337:


https://twitter.com/AnnaBower/status/1775624165740990938

Trump seems extremely desperate to delay the April 15th start date for the criminal trial. He's also filed another motion to get judge Merchan to recuse himself even though it has been repeatedly denied.

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mystic_belmont
04/03/24 4:43:39 PM
#338:


Question, if Trump submits a fraudulent financial statement, is that a civil or criminal matter? I assume it's criminal?

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Halo478
04/03/24 4:43:44 PM
#339:


Cuz he is guilty he knows it we all know it

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Takuya_Lee
04/03/24 4:44:06 PM
#340:


Cemith posted...
The issue with this, is that Cannon can stall the trial long enough for Trump to get back in the office, by then he is effectively shielded from prosecution.

You're assuming he'll get back in office, which isn't too likely. Still, he is still trying to run out the clock for that hope

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CableZL
04/03/24 4:45:33 PM
#341:


mystic_belmont posted...
Question, if Trump submits a fraudulent financial statement, is that a civil or criminal matter? I assume it's criminal?

It's both, technically. The type of trial depends on the relief the plaintiff seeks. In the case of the NY civil fraud trial, the NY AG wanted a disgorgement of ill-gotten gains of $250,000,000 originally and that amount grew to about $355,000,000 once all the facts were laid on the table toward the end of the trial.

The Trump Organization was already found guilty of fraud in a previous criminal trial, but Allen Weisselberg was the fall guy for that.

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Cemith
04/03/24 4:57:53 PM
#342:


Takuya_Lee posted...
You're assuming he'll get back in office, which isn't too likely. Still, he is still trying to run out the clock for that hope.

I hope I'm wrong, but I have little faith in the cogs of justice to work properly this time. Is it unlikely? For sure. Improbable, even. But that's not enough after 2016.

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CableZL
04/03/24 5:00:45 PM
#343:


Cemith posted...
I hope I'm wrong, but I have little faith in the cogs of justice to work properly this time. Is it unlikely? For sure. Improbable, even. But that's not enough after 2016.

I don't think Trump is gonna win, but I'm also not confident in that thought. I was so sure that the vast majority of our society viewed Trump as the joke and con artist he is and wouldn't vote for him in 2016.

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CableZL
04/03/24 5:21:36 PM
#344:


https://twitter.com/AnnaBower/status/1775632620736364928

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Takuya_Lee
04/03/24 5:26:32 PM
#345:


Cemith posted...
I hope I'm wrong, but I have little faith in the cogs of justice to work properly this time. Is it unlikely? For sure. Improbable, even. But that's not enough after 2016.

It's not the cogs of justice I believe in. It's the ability of the GOP to screw themselves over repeatedly.

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jefffan
04/03/24 5:49:08 PM
#346:


While these seem like clerical errors that should corrected before Friday. It is genuinely hilarious how bad Trump and this lawyers are.

Trump has always been incompetent. But his lawyers being this bad is almost disturbing at this point.

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UnholyMudcrab
04/03/24 5:49:50 PM
#347:


jefffan posted...
While these seem like clerical errors that should corrected before Friday. It is genuinely hilarious how bad Trump and this lawyers are.

Trump has always been incompetent. But this lawyers being this bad as almost disturbing at this point.
You get the representation you pay for

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Cemith
04/03/24 5:52:44 PM
#348:


Takuya_Lee posted...
It's not the cogs of justice I believe in. It's the ability of the GOP to screw themselves over repeatedly.
God if only. Doesn't matter how many crimes they confess to if we get AG's like Garland who are allergic to actually persecuting people on the Right.

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BewmHedshot
04/03/24 6:10:13 PM
#349:


It's never good for you when the Judge's order denying your motion includes the phrases "raises real questions about the sincerity and actual purpose of the motion," and "tests this Courts' credulity."
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mybbqrules
04/03/24 6:32:48 PM
#350:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/1775540694729339197

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Why am I not surprised that a lot of these Jan 6th fuckwits are Sovcits?

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