Current Events > Kendrick Lamar Disses Drake and J. Cole on Future and Metro Boomin's Album

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BlueTigerLion
03/22/24 9:56:35 AM
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https://www.complex.com/music/a/zach-dionne/kendrick-lamar-diss-drake-j-cole-big-3-like-that-future

Kendrick Lamar has words for Drake and J. Cole on Future and Metro Boomin's new album We Don't Trust You. "Yeah, get up with me, fuck sneak dissing/'First Person Shooter,' I hope they came with three switches," Kendrick raps on "Like That" at the 2:19 mark.

Think I won't drop the location? I still got PTSD
Motherfuck the big three, *****, it's just big me
*****, bum, what? I'm really like that
And your best work is a light pack
*****, Prince outlived Mike Jack'
*****, bum, 'fore all your dogs gettin' buried
That's a K with all these nines, he gon' see Pet Sematary *****, bum

Lamar's verse references Drake and J. Cole's collaboration "First Person Shooter," Drake's last album, For All The Dogs, and compares himself to Prince to Drake's Michael Jackson. Drake and J. Cole linked for the Billboard Hot 100 chart-topper "First Person Shooter" on 2023's For All the Dogs, where the Dreamville head rapped, "Love when they argue the hardest MC/Is it K-Dot? Is it Aubrey? Or me?/We the big three like we started a league, but right now, I feel like Muhammad Ali." Drake preferred to pretend Kendrick doesn't exist with his line, "Who the GOAT? Who you bitches really rooting for?/Like a kid that act bad from January to November, *****, it's just you and Cole." Drake also referenced Michael Jackson on the song rapping, "What the fuck, bro? I'm one away from Michael/*****, beat it, *****, beat it, what?"

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Baron_Ox
03/22/24 10:03:27 AM
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great track

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BlueTigerLion
03/22/24 11:40:38 AM
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Baron_Ox posted...
great track

Yep. Great to see another rap beef.

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Spiderman23J
03/22/24 3:55:27 PM
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Kendrick is the best out of the 3 im glad he did this

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NoxObscuras
03/22/24 4:14:10 PM
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Wait what? Kendrick dissing Drake in a Future song? Are Drake and Future not cool anymore either? I'm so behind on these beefs

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Baron_Ox
03/22/24 4:17:17 PM
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^ yea, they say Future also dissed Drake in a separate song - We Don't Trust You

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ntP8vvswhYM

here's the one where Kendrick disses both Drake and J. Cole - Like That

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N9bKBAA22Go

edit: at post 5

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JlM
03/22/24 4:18:48 PM
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NoxObscuras
03/22/24 4:21:29 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Seems like he just got caught in the crossfire basically. Drake said the greatest is either him or J Cole. And in the same song J Cole said the big 3 are him, Drake and Kendrick. So he wasn't dissing Kendrick, but Drake sure was lol.

Baron_Ox posted...
^ yea, they say Future also dissed Drake in a separate song - We Don't Trust You

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ntP8vvswhYM

here's the one where Kendrick disses both Drake and J. Cole - Like That

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N9bKBAA22Go

edit: at post 5
Ah okay. I listened to Like That after reading the opening post, but I didn't know about Future dissing Drake. Looks like the same album cover for both songs too.

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luigi33
03/22/24 4:22:29 PM
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This will be the first direct diss between the both of them right? Instead of subluminal?

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luigi33
03/22/24 4:24:14 PM
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J Cole could win against Kendrick. dude Lyrically is a fucking MONSTER when he wants to be. Drake would get mopped by J Cole and Kendrick.

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ironman2009
03/22/24 4:24:52 PM
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Hopefully metro boomin does all the production for this beef

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Makeveli_lives
03/22/24 4:25:23 PM
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luigi33 posted...
This will be the first direct diss between the both of them right? Instead of subluminal?
yes after a decade of subliminal.

luigi33 posted...
J Cole could win against Kendrick. dude Lyrically is a fucking MONSTER when he wants to be. Drake would get mopped by J Cole and Kendrick.
Cole cant touch Kendrick on his own. His guest verses are great but his solo shit has always been mid.

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Baron_Ox
03/22/24 4:27:40 PM
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NoxObscuras posted...
Looks like the same album cover for both songs too.
yea, Future's album just came out last night.

there might be more Drake disses/shots throughout, but I haven't really listened to any other songs.

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luigi33
03/22/24 4:29:57 PM
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Makeveli_lives posted...
Cole cant touch Kendrick on his own. His guest verses are great but his solo s*** has always been mid.
Thats my point. Whenever J Cole feels like he needs to be competitive he goes to a completely different level lyrically.

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Lordgold666
03/22/24 4:31:53 PM
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Lol @ the redactions. So many

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Dakimakura
03/22/24 4:33:08 PM
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Drake was never good

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DrizztLink
03/22/24 4:33:17 PM
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luigi33 posted...
Drake would get mopped by J Cole and Kendrick.
I'm pretty sure Drake would get wiped by, like, Snow the Informer.

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NoxObscuras
03/22/24 4:41:26 PM
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Dakimakura posted...
Drake was never good
Honestly, as much hate as Drake gets, he's had some pretty good bars when he just raps about his life. My two favorite Drake songs are just him rapping, no chorus.

Say What's Real
https://youtu.be/AQwGyDvCUZc?si=LOgl0S3KN19jcPDh

Do Not Disturb
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WalkingPlague
03/22/24 4:56:40 PM
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Makeveli_lives posted...
Cole cant touch Kendrick on his own. His guest verses are great but his solo shit has always been mid.
EXACTLY!

all of j.coles best songs are features. he is not on kendricks level.

dreamville dont want smoke with TDE.

drake is a goofy. his pussy-boy raps are weak. he knows he can fuck with Kdot without fucking with dre too. im sure j prince is watching this beef carefully.

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Makeveli_lives
03/22/24 8:06:25 PM
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WalkingPlague posted...
EXACTLY!

all of j.coles best songs are features. he is not on kendricks level.

dreamville dont want smoke with TDE.

drake is a goofy. his pussy-boy raps are weak. he knows he can fuck with Kdot without fucking with dre too. im sure j prince is watching this beef carefully.
Kendrick is no longer on TDE.

https://youtu.be/f0X-Y_ylLiI?si=cxvAGuYJLoU37CFG

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ssb_yunglink2
03/22/24 8:15:27 PM
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Dakimakura posted...
Drake was never good
Drake absolutely has good songs. I havent liked a single one of his albums since like 2016, but he didnt get popular for no reason.


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ssb_yunglink2
03/22/24 8:16:36 PM
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luigi33 posted...
Thats my point. Whenever J Cole feels like he needs to be competitive he goes to a completely different level lyrically.
So he doesnt feel the need to be competitive on his own solo projects? lmao

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Smashingpmkns
03/22/24 8:19:12 PM
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Drake is a pop star. Shouldn't even be in the same conversation as Kendrick or J Cole

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Mew
03/22/24 8:24:38 PM
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Rap beef is the most pointless thing ever

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luigi33
03/22/24 8:33:19 PM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
So he doesnt feel the need to be competitive on his own solo projects? lmao
By competitive I mean he's directly competing against another MC's skill. Your solo projects are just that: solo projects.

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hockeybabe89
03/22/24 8:34:57 PM
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Drake's best song is him being on a Kendrick song over a decade ago lmao

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Baron_Ox
03/22/24 8:35:34 PM
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Mew posted...
Rap beef is the most pointless thing ever
it's not pointless since it drives up record sales/streams.

that's why a lot of beefs were most likely manufactured in the past.

they were definitely encouraged, at least.

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Rosstin316
03/22/24 8:37:35 PM
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Kendrick has been in his own league, sport, Hell his own planet compared to these other peasants for like 15 years.

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ssb_yunglink2
03/22/24 8:56:59 PM
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luigi33 posted...
By competitive I mean he's directly competing against another MC's skill. Your solo projects are just that: solo projects.
His solo projects being so weak are why i dont hold J cole to Kendricks level. J Cole doesnt have a single album that reaches To pimp a butterfly. Kendrick brings it in both his features and his solo works

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luigi33
03/22/24 11:06:29 PM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
His solo projects being so weak are why i dont hold J cole to Kendricks level. J Cole doesnt have a single album that reaches To pimp a butterfly. Kendrick brings it in both his features and his solo works
To be fair most modern rappers don't. Like only Lupe got Albums on that level.

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TheGoldenEel
03/22/24 11:15:04 PM
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luigi33 posted...
J Cole could win against Kendrick. dude Lyrically is a fucking MONSTER when he wants to be.
lol @ j Cole stans actually believe this

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ssb_yunglink2
03/22/24 11:19:47 PM
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luigi33 posted...
To be fair most modern rappers don't. Like only Lupe got Albums on that level.
I love Lupe Fiasco as well. And yeah, i dont disagree that Kendricks solo projects are some of the best of modern rap.

J cole, Kendrick and Drake being the big 3 is just a popularity thing anyway. I totally believe Kendrick is one of the best modern rappers, but he isnt even my favorite tbh

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luigi33
03/23/24 12:10:47 AM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
I love Lupe Fiasco as well. And yeah, i dont disagree that Kendricks solo projects are some of the best of modern rap.

J cole, Kendrick and Drake being the big 3 is just a popularity thing anyway. I totally believe Kendrick is one of the best modern rappers, but he isnt even my favorite tbh
Lupe Fiasco is my favorite rapper of all time. Kendrick is amazing too.

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Toonstrack
03/23/24 12:21:00 AM
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Cole and drake cannot touch kenny on their best day. Kendrick doesn't even use all of his ability, he for example can do wordplay with the absolute best of them but usually goes for something more literal. Just that last part of the verse where he mentions the K and 9 is Eminem level and he barely does that.

Its not a competition. Cole is good, great even but he ain't never making SAMIDOT how much a dollar cost

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Kradek
03/23/24 3:59:31 AM
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BlueTigerLion posted...
"Yeah, get up with me, fuck sneak dissing/'First Person Shooter,'

"Fuck sneak dissing, now watch me sneakily diss these people that only obsessed fans who know the in and outs of what I'm talking about will understand"

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Baron_Ox
03/23/24 4:03:39 AM
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how is it sneakily dissing if both the fans and the targets of the dissing know what's going on?

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Kradek
03/23/24 4:06:39 AM
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Baron_Ox posted...
how is it sneakily dissing if both the fans and the targets of the dissing know what's going on?

Becuase you'd have to be fans in order to know what's happening.

You know what's not sneaky? "Fuck Drake he's a bitch, and fuck that cocksucker J-Cole, too"

That's something easily understood by literally anybody. Like I said, the only people who understand what he said are the obsessed fans who know the ins and outs of what he's talking about.

Me, as a non-fan, have absolutely no fucking clue what that verse is talking about or where to even begin with it. That implies a level of sneakiness cause you have to be in the know in order to know.

Or he just assumes everybody knows what he's talking about cause he assumes everybody cares about what he says and does.

Not hating on Lamar, mind you, just thought it was humorous.

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Baron_Ox
03/23/24 4:13:29 AM
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I feel like, even if the fans didn't know who he was referring to, it wouldn't count as sneaky as long as the person/people he was dissing felt like the attack was direct enough.

fans being able to follow along is just an added bonus (for them).

like, if you said something about me by referring to a post I made, I can be like, "this son of a..."

and then poster #3 can be like, "oh shit! "

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ssb_yunglink2
03/23/24 9:36:49 AM
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Kradek posted...
"Fuck sneak dissing, now watch me sneakily diss these people that only obsessed fans who know the in and outs of what I'm talking about will understand"
I definitely wouldnt call straight up name dropping drakes last album as well as a Drake song J cole featured in a sneaky diss lol

I much prefer it this way than just saying Drake is a bitch.

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NoxObscuras
03/23/24 12:59:59 PM
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Kradek posted...
Becuase you'd have to be fans in order to know what's happening.

You know what's not sneaky? "Fuck Drake he's a bitch, and fuck that cocksucker J-Cole, too"

That's something easily understood by literally anybody. Like I said, the only people who understand what he said are the obsessed fans who know the ins and outs of what he's talking about.

Me, as a non-fan, have absolutely no fucking clue what that verse is talking about or where to even begin with it. That implies a level of sneakiness cause you have to be in the know in order to know.

Or he just assumes everybody knows what he's talking about cause he assumes everybody cares about what he says and does.

Not hating on Lamar, mind you, just thought it was humorous.
Kendrick's diss was very direct though. He name dropped First Person Shooter, which was the song that Drake dissed Kendrick in. He named dropped the album that song was on. He referenced the "big 3" line that J. Cole used in that song (in which Drake said, there's no big 3, it's just me and Cole). And he said Drake's real name, Aubrey.

Just because he didn't spell it out for you by literally saying "Fuck Drake" doesn't mean it was sneaky. His diss came in loud and clear.

Did you think Eminem's diss, Killshot, was sneaky because he didn't say "Fuck Machine Gun Kelly" at all in his diss? Like, that's not usually how disses go lol.

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Makeveli_lives
03/23/24 6:51:40 PM
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https://twitter.com/mrdrewlandry/status/1771385664606515591?s=46&t=MclOgjiC_DZiKahxLVoZDg

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youenjoymyself1
03/24/24 4:33:35 PM
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rap beefs are so stupid now. 50 cent proved that with the Fat Joe/Ja Rule bullshit. They are dead now.

Also like is this an LL Cool J type rap beef or is this a Youngboy vs Durk beef? Quando vs King Von. Is someone gonna die? Drake and Kendrick will swear they will take it there for their images lol.

Kinda hard to have a beef on wax when you rap about doing gangster shit and then don't mix it up when you see each other face to face. If someone does get hurt they will jump back to saying it was just a rap beef.

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Smashingpmkns
03/24/24 4:36:34 PM
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youenjoymyself1 posted...
Is someone gonna die? Drake and Kendrick will swear they will take it there for their images lol.

Kinda hard to have a beef on wax when you rap about doing gangster shit and then don't mix it up when you see each other face to face. If someone does get hurt they will jump back to saying it was just a rap beef.
Beef doesn't have to be violent wtf. Just because you think Drake sucks doesn't mean you want to kill him lmao

Also neither Drake nor Kendrick are in, or ever were in, gangs or involved in gang activity. Drake was on fucking Degrassi and Good Kid Maad City was about growing up in Compton around all that shit while not being involved

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ssb_yunglink2
03/24/24 4:40:58 PM
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youenjoymyself1 posted...
rap beefs are so stupid now. 50 cent proved that with the Fat Joe/Ja Rule bullshit. They are dead now.

Also like is this an LL Cool J type rap beef or is this a Youngboy vs Durk beef? Quando vs King Von. Is someone gonna die? Drake and Kendrick will swear they will take it there for their images lol.

Kinda hard to have a beef on wax when you rap about doing gangster shit and then don't mix it up when you see each other face to face. If someone does get hurt they will jump back to saying it was just a rap beef.
You can diss someone without wanting them to die and can be dissed without wanting to murder the guy who dissed you what the hell

Some of the best rap rivalries had beef that didnt end up with people dead. Beef shouldnt end up with people dead.

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josifrees
03/24/24 4:45:27 PM
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This is manufactured

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solosnake
03/24/24 5:05:08 PM
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Its crazy that Future is moving into top 5 all time status

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