Current Events > Is the United States of America guilty of genocide against Native Americans?

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I'm gonna need you to explain the difference between ethnic cleansing and genocide

Raphael Lemkin, who coined the term "genocide", considered the displacement of Native Americans by European settlers as a historical example of genocide.[7] However, others, like historian Gary Anderson, contend that genocide does not accurately characterize any aspect of American history, suggesting instead that ethnic cleansing is a more appropriate term.[8]

Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial, or religious groups from a given area, with the intent of making a region ethnically homogeneous.

Genocide is the intentional destruction of a people[a] in whole or in part.

To be fair, the Spanish are partly responsible, since the germs Columbia introduced killed off 90% of their population before the first British people set foot on N. America.

To be fair, the Spanish are partly responsible, since the germs Columbia introduced killed off 90% of their population before the first British people set foot on N. America.

To be fair, the Spanish are partly responsible, since the germs Columbia introduced killed off 90% of their population before the first British people set foot on N. America.

From Wikipedia:

The 'in part' makes this feel like two sides of the same coin, at minimum <_< but I guess some people do view them as distinct.

From Wikipedia:

The 'in part' makes this feel like two sides of the same coin, at minimum <_< but I guess some people do view them as distinct.

Not just the U.S, but places like Canada and Australia are also guilty of this.

To be fair, the Spanish are partly responsible, since the germs Columbia introduced killed off 90% of their population before the first British people set foot on N. America.

The distinction between invader factions is inconsequential to the ones being invaded and subject to genocide.

Does the pope shit in the woods?

Unequivocally.

I live in the USA because they funded death squads etc in my native country.

At the Nazi trials in Nuremberg, many Nazis offered up a defense of "just following orders" or some variant like "If I didn't do it, someone else would have done it anyway." And everyone knows the story about how "Just following orders" isn't an acceptable defense for genocide.

The lesser known story is they weren't following orders at all. When asked to provide proof of the orders for the crimes they were accused of, not a single one of them could do so. That leads us to the question, what the hell were the actual orders?

Well if you're interested in the answer, there's a video on it here:
https://youtu.be/uQsGUndg_Vc

But the tl;dr is that the order Hitler gave that led to the most infamous genocide in history was to simply "Begin the Ethnic Cleansing of Germany."

And as a bonus, if you do watch that video, and get to know a little more about Hitler's style of governing and how orders were given out, the similarities to Trump are striking. And it's not like Trump intentionally studied Hitler's governance and attempted to imitate it. They just naturally came to the same conclusions because that's just how their personalities were.

Attempted plausible deniability is certainly another way Trump (and his followers) try to distort things. There's a lot of ways to say "Hurt/kill these people" without using the word " hurt" or "kill".

OT: Yeah our country is absolutely guilty of genocide against Native Americans.