Current Events > Twin sisters stabbed, one fatally, in NYC after rejecting attacker's advances

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BlueTigerLion
03/18/24 12:34:25 PM
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https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/brooklyn-woman-killed-double-stabbing-park-slope/

Twin sisters were attacked inside a Brooklyn deli early Sunday morning by a man who, police sources say, tried to flirt with them. One was killed and the other was injured. Police have launched a manhunt for the person responsible. "It's horrible. It's sad. It's very sad," Miriam Ortiz said. Ortiz was among those to visit a growing memorial outside the home of 19-year-old Samyia Spain, who died after being stabbed twice at around 2:30 a.m. inside a deli on 4th Avenue and St. Mark's Place in Park Slope. Her twin sister was stabbed in the arm.

A witness, who did not want to be identified, said the twin sisters were attacked because they refused a stranger's advances. "One of them guys complemented two girls, walked in with their friends, and they said, no, we're not attracted so he called them names. They called him names back. He walked out. He walked down the block angry," the witness said. The witness said the man then came back to the deli and things took a turn for the worse. "He's banging on the door. They lock the door. Then he walked away again. So they unlocked the door so everyone can leave. So the second they open the door, he ran back into the door and started attacking them," the witness said. A worker at the deli said the twins had been coming there for years. "They're very nice. I know their father, too. They come here all the time, customers for maybe over, I would say, over 10 years I know them," Mohammed Alba said. "Take somebody else's life, a young lady, 19 years old, a beautiful girl." The witness said the man and his friends were intoxicated and ran off after the attack. So far, no arrests have been made.

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ThePieReborn
03/18/24 12:36:31 PM
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This is really doing a number on me after reading The Gift of Fear yesterday.

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NoxObscuras
03/18/24 12:38:41 PM
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Fucking hell. Lock that lunatic up for life. I feel so bad for the family and especially the twin that survived. I hope she doesn't get survivors guilt over losing her twin like that.

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kingdrake2
03/18/24 12:41:53 PM
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NoxObscuras posted...
. Lock that lunatic up for life.


danger to society and yes completely agree.

no 2nd chance for that monster.

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voldothegr8
03/18/24 12:57:58 PM
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Death sentence, no appeals

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Baron_Ox
03/18/24 1:09:16 PM
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what a really tragic and senseless thing to happen.

RIP to her...

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C_Pain
03/18/24 1:13:53 PM
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WTF I live in that neighborhood. I'm scared. NYC is ass. I gotta get outta here.

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megamanfreakXD
03/18/24 1:14:03 PM
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NoxObscuras posted...
Fucking hell. Lock that lunatic up for life. I feel so bad for the family and especially the twin that survived. I hope she doesn't get survivors guilt over losing her twin like that.
Not gonna happen. He will be out the next day and labeled as not a danger to the public.

Like I have said before, NYC is digging their own grave and hard working new yorkers will die in it.

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ledzep3__v9
03/18/24 1:16:22 PM
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megamanfreakXD posted...
Not gonna happen. He will be out the next day and labeled as not a danger to the public.

Like I have said before, NYC is digging their own grave and hard working new yorkers will die in it.
Will you come back here and apologise when you are proven wrong? Or delete your account?
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NinjaWarrior455
03/18/24 1:17:46 PM
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megamanfreakXD posted...
Not gonna happen. He will be out the next day and labeled as not a danger to the public.

Like I have said before, NYC is digging their own grave and hard working new yorkers will die in it.
Your gimmick sucks

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Crimsoness
03/18/24 1:17:46 PM
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megamanfreakXD posted...
Not gonna happen. He will be out the next day and labeled as not a danger to the public.

Like I have said before, NYC is digging their own grave and hard working new yorkers will die in it.
Shut the fuck up

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Dark_Arbron
03/18/24 1:22:29 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
Shut the fuck up

NinjaWarrior455 posted...
Your gimmick sucks

Glad I'm not the only one to recognize that poster's gimmick.

Putting this particular case aside, as I have no right to comment on it, I've spent the past year and a half going through the legal system and I've been exposed to the fact that criminal behavior is largely not due to people being "pieces of shit who need to be tossed out." There are many pieces to a puzzle, and luckily the professionals know better than the average useless layperson who unfortunately wields the misguided power of the vote.

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C_Pain
03/18/24 1:25:06 PM
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NinjaWarrior455 posted...
Your gimmick sucks
I agree. Feels like being on the nyc subreddit again. Does he even live there?

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streamofthesky
03/18/24 1:29:15 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

No. Stay the fuck away and call the police.
When other dudes jump in to save a woman, it escalates the tensions and is more likely to result in violence and death.
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megamanfreakXD
03/18/24 1:57:46 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

You mean like that case in the sub- oh wait....

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SonicZack
03/18/24 1:59:40 PM
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This is extremely sad to hear.

My wife had an issue nearly a year and a half ago when she came to get me from a sleep study (I was not allowed to drive due to meds I was on for it and she was visiting family). The issue was when she got onto the freeway a car started following her and would change lanes with her when she tried to get away. I told her to get off at our exit and go straight to the police station. The guy followed her off the exit. She proceeded to run red lights (it was 5AM on a Saturday) and he did too. She got to the police station and the guy boxed her in. She hit the horn repeatedly and the police came out. The guy was mentally unstable and said (his words) "the voices in his head told him to follow my wife's car because it would take him where needed to go (like a promised land if ai remember right). Since then, I have encouraged her to take karate lessons to help with defending herself.

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NoxObscuras
03/18/24 2:00:25 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

They did try to protect these women, to be fair. They locked the guy out of the deli and then once they thought he was gone, they unlocked the doors so they could go home. I don't they were expecting the guy to ambush them as soon as the doors opened.

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Lordgold666
03/18/24 2:23:14 PM
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Rip

Why were they even going to a deli at 230am in lawless nyc?? And why werent the police called when they locked the doors?


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ironman2009
03/18/24 2:26:14 PM
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Lordgold666 posted...
Rip

Why were they even going to a deli at 230am in lawless nyc?? And why werent the police called when they locked the doors?

Getting food

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Murphiroth
03/18/24 2:39:32 PM
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megamanfreakXD posted...
Not gonna happen. He will be out the next day and labeled as not a danger to the public.

Like I have said before, NYC is digging their own grave and hard working new yorkers will die in it.

So you've dropped the fake doctor gimmick for a fearmongering gimmick I take it?

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Solar_Crimson
03/18/24 2:57:03 PM
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Lordgold666 posted...
Why were they even going to a deli at 230am in lawless nyc??
Why not?

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Vengeance29
03/18/24 2:59:09 PM
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That's fucked, imagine losing someone that close to you over nothing.
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Roachmeat
03/18/24 2:59:44 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Death sentence, no appeals

Makes no sense to agree with you since someone would come along and start asking "Well what about the innocent people that get executed?"

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
03/18/24 3:03:55 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

They locked the doors to keep the guy out and only unlocked it once they thought he was gone. It sounds like people were trying to keep the girls safe in this case

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Ulfar
03/18/24 3:15:47 PM
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Lordgold666 posted...
Rip

Why were they even going to a deli at 230am in lawless nyc?? And why werent the police called when they locked the doors?

Nothing good happens after midnight. Police def should have been called after locking the doors.
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Umbreon
03/18/24 3:30:18 PM
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RIP

As stated, bullshit like this is why a lot of women are afraid of openly rejecting a man. Hopefully this asshole gets the maximum possible sentence.

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ScazarMeltex
03/18/24 3:35:19 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
No. Stay the fuck away and call the police.
When other dudes jump in to save a woman, it escalates the tensions and is more likely to result in violence and death.
Don't die a hero, die from old age.
And if it escalates to violence before the cops arrive? These are cops we are talking about here. Cops who have no legal duty to protect anyone. I'd rather rely on myself to deal with the situation.

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Umbreon
03/18/24 3:52:48 PM
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No one is obligated to be a hero. Whatever it's trying to put out a major fire or stop a violent person.

That's not to say just look the other way, but not everyone is young and spry enough to jump into a dangerous scenario unharmed.

The man and his buddies are at fault here.

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kuwab0
03/18/24 3:53:56 PM
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No picture or description of the perp?

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ScazarMeltex
03/18/24 4:45:33 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Oh no doubt. I absolutely believe that if you interject in a situation like this you have to be prepared to defend yourself and to be willing to do violence to do so. If you aren't prepared to do so then you are likely to get hurt or killed. I was only speaking for myself when I was responding to him, not anyone else.

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Lordgold666
03/19/24 11:42:20 AM
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ironman2009 posted...
Getting food

230a seems a bit late for food, why not go out for dinner when its earlier in the evening instead of waiting until the middle of the night when the crazies are lurking out and about

Solar_Crimson posted...
Why not?
To avoid the reason, among others, were having this thread rn

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HashtagSEP
03/19/24 11:46:31 AM
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Lordgold666 posted...
230a seems a bit late for food, why not go out for dinner when its earlier in the evening instead of waiting until the middle of the night when the crazies are lurking out and about

To avoid the reason, among others, were having this thread rn

You're trying really hard to victim blame, eh?

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Murphiroth
03/19/24 11:57:34 AM
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Lordgold666 posted...
230a seems a bit late for food, why not go out for dinner when its earlier in the evening

Maybe they work late. Maybe they were out late. Maybe they just wanted to?

It's really none of your business and this bizarre victim blaming is wild.

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Deej
03/19/24 12:41:12 PM
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Lordgold666 posted...
230a seems a bit late for food, why not go out for dinner when its earlier in the evening instead of waiting until the middle of the night when the crazies are lurking out and about
...Why exactly was the dude out there trying to flirt with women at 2:30 AM anyway?

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03/19/24 2:03:31 PM
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Lordgold666
03/19/24 4:07:32 PM
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Jesus christ, im not blaming the victim. Its not their fault some loser stabbed them. All i asked was why wait until a more dangerous time of the night to grab a bite. In a perfect world, we all should be able to walk the streets at any time, for any reason, but we dont. Shit people will do shit things under the cover of night when its easier to get away with crimes.


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Lordgold666
03/19/24 4:10:20 PM
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Deej posted...
...Why exactly was the dude out there trying to flirt with women at 2:30 AM anyway?
No idea, go ask him

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DrizztLink
03/19/24 4:12:26 PM
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Lordgold666 posted...
Jesus christ, im not blaming the victim.
Just stating that what happened to them was a consequence of their own actions and not the guy who stabbed them.

Which is victim blaming.

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