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Cotton_Eye_Joe 03/16/24 5:48:23 PM #1:	you can attack enemies and use magic and everyone takes their turn --- Starfield is a 7/10. Get over it. <cite>Cotton_Eye_Joe posted [p:979404312] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>you can attack enemies and use magic and everyone takes their turn </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Popo 03/16/24 5:49:37 PM #2:	Everybody didnt take a turn in Dragon Quest. It was one lone dude killing off a buncha shit in the wild, and plundering stuff from a dead guy named Eldrick. --- Live action Hungry Hungry Hippos though, now that was a sport. ~Aeon Azuran <cite>The_Popo posted [p:979404329] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>Everybody didnt take a turn in Dragon Quest. It was one lone dude killing off a buncha shit in the wild, and plundering stuff from a dead guy named Eldrick. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CRON 03/16/24 5:51:20 PM #3:	Dragon Quest >>>>> Final Fantasy but most importantly Ys >>>>>> all other JRPGs --- Thanks for reading! <cite>CRON posted [p:979404349] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>Dragon Quest >>>>> Final Fantasy but most importantly Ys >>>>>> all other JRPGs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dakimakura 03/16/24 5:52:41 PM #4:	Cotton_Eye_Joe posted... everyone takes their turn sounds like they are both a clone of ur mom fucking GOT'EM! --- Bees <cite>Dakimakura posted [p:979404361] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>Cotton_Eye_Joe posted... </cite><quote>everyone takes their turn</quote>sounds like they are both a clone of ur momfucking GOT'EM! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MEGAsoldier 03/16/24 5:54:45 PM #5:	CRON posted... Dragon Quest >>>>> Final Fantasy but most importantly Ys >>>>>> all other JRPGs Man I have beaten 3 Ys now and I am still pretty "it's aight" about the series. It is good but never really blows me away. That being said I haven't played 8 yet and I know everyone says that is the best one so maybe that will change my mind. <cite>MEGAsoldier posted [p:979404385] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>CRON posted... </cite><quote>Dragon Quest >>>>> Final Fantasy but most importantly Ys >>>>>> all other JRPGs</quote>Man I have beaten 3 Ys now and I am still pretty "it's aight" about the series. It is good but never really blows me away. That being said I haven't played 8 yet and I know everyone says that is the best one so maybe that will change my mind. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 03/16/24 6:08:19 PM #6:	Dragon Quest invented depth in gaming. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:979404545] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>Dragon Quest invented depth in gaming.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 03/16/24 6:16:09 PM #7:	MEGAsoldier posted... Man I have beaten 3 Ys now and I am still pretty "it's aight" about the series. It is good but never really blows me away. That being said I haven't played 8 yet and I know everyone says that is the best one so maybe that will change my mind. VIII is the only one (that I've played) that is anything better than mediocre. Ignore the ever-loving crap out of the rest. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:979404647] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>MEGAsoldier posted... </cite><quote>Man I have beaten 3 Ys now and I am still pretty "it's aight" about the series. It is good but never really blows me away. That being said I haven't played 8 yet and I know everyone says that is the best one so maybe that will change my mind.</quote>VIII is the only one (that I've played) that is anything better than mediocre. Ignore the ever-loving crap out of the rest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 03/16/24 6:48:07 PM #8:	Both Final Fantasy I and Zelda II got graves of Erdrick, which is a reference to Dragon Quest. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:979405069] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>Both Final Fantasy I and Zelda II got graves of Erdrick, which is a reference to Dragon Quest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ProfOaksAide 03/16/24 7:01:35 PM #9:	I wish FF hadnt caught up to the complexity in game design and story until at least FF5, but that still couldnt compare. Squenix also treats the franchise like shit. Nonexistent quality control and continually alienating long time fans. DQ has stayed faithful and consistent from day 1 --- Trust me, I'm a scientist. <cite>ProfOaksAide posted [p:979405299] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>I wishFF hadnt caught up to the complexity in game design and story until at least FF5, but that still couldnt compare. Squenix also treats the franchise like shit. Nonexistent quality control and continually alienating long time fans. DQ has stayed faithful and consistent from day 1 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hayame_Zero 03/16/24 7:11:18 PM #10:	I really need to catch up on those games. I played 7 on release and loved it. I've played 1, 4, 8, 11, and a few other spinoffs over the years, and still feel like a newbie. --- ...I think I'm done here... <cite>Hayame_Zero posted [p:979405449] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>I really need to catch up on those games.I played 7 on release and loved it. I've played 1, 4, 8, 11, and a few other spinoffs over the years, and still feel like a newbie. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kage_53 03/16/24 7:15:58 PM #11:	Wizardry did that before dragon quest. <cite>kage_53 posted [p:979405533] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>Wizardry did that before dragon quest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 03/16/24 7:17:29 PM #12:	Final Fantasy was an unlicensed D&D game. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Best new show of 2023, One Piece live action. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:979405559] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>Final Fantasy was an unlicensed D&D game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StateofZen 03/16/24 7:21:40 PM #13:	The_Popo posted... Everybody didnt take a turn in Dragon Quest. It was one lone dude killing off a buncha shit in the wild, and plundering stuff from a dead guy named Eldrick. Final Fantasy came out after Dragon Quest 2, which had a party system. --- I hate Oat milk <cite>StateofZen posted [p:979405624] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>The_Popo posted... </cite><quote>Everybody didnt take a turn in Dragon Quest. It was one lone dude killing off a buncha shit in the wild, and plundering stuff from a dead guy named Eldrick.</quote>Final Fantasy came out after Dragon Quest 2, which had a party system. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Justin2Krelian 03/16/24 7:31:54 PM #14:	Didnt somebody make a thread about how important the Ultima series was? I wonder how much DQA borrowed from that? --- -J2K Currently Streaming: The Chosen, Monarch, From, Evil, True Detective, Barry <cite>Justin2Krelian posted [p:979405772] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>Didnt somebody make a thread about how important the Ultima series was? I wonder how much DQA borrowed from that? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hayame_Zero 03/16/24 7:37:41 PM #15:	Justin2Krelian posted... Didnt somebody make a thread about how important the Ultima series was? I wonder how much DQA borrowed from that? https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80721936 --- ...I think I'm done here... <cite>Hayame_Zero posted [p:979405837] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>Justin2Krelian posted... </cite><quote>Didnt somebody make a thread about how important the Ultima series was? I wonder how much DQA borrowed from that?</quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80721936 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ProfOaksAide 03/16/24 7:45:37 PM #16:	Justin2Krelian posted... Didnt somebody make a thread about how important the Ultima series was? I wonder how much DQA borrowed from that? I doubt Ultima was localized in Japanese in the 80s lol --- Trust me, I'm a scientist. <cite>ProfOaksAide posted [p:979405942] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>Justin2Krelian posted... </cite><quote>Didnt somebody make a thread about how important the Ultima series was? I wonder how much DQA borrowed from that?</quote>I doubt Ultima was localized in Japanese in the 80s lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Justin2Krelian 03/16/24 7:50:21 PM #17:	ProfOaksAide posted... I doubt Ultima was localized in Japanese in the 80s lol Sure, but you dont think guys in the industry would at least hear the rise of RPGs in video games? --- -J2K Currently Streaming: The Chosen, Monarch, From, Evil, True Detective, Barry <cite>Justin2Krelian posted [p:979406003] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>ProfOaksAide posted... </cite><quote>I doubt Ultima was localized in Japanese in the 80s lol</quote>Sure, but you dont think guys in the industry would at least hear the rise of RPGs in video games? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hayame_Zero 03/16/24 8:02:05 PM #18:	ProfOaksAide posted... I doubt Ultima was localized in Japanese in the 80s lol Ultima II was localized on PC in Japan, and the later games were was ported to Famicom/Super Famicom. https://youtu.be/7YED3hyExk4?si=NaTIeGNMKPOlvmiH --- ...I think I'm done here... <cite>Hayame_Zero posted [p:979406170] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>ProfOaksAide posted... </cite><quote>I doubt Ultima was localized in Japanese in the 80s lol</quote>Ultima II was localized on PC in Japan, and the later games were was ported to Famicom/Super Famicom.https://youtu.be/7YED3hyExk4?si=NaTIeGNMKPOlvmiH </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gp1829 03/17/24 11:50:40 AM #19:	The_Popo posted... Everybody didnt take a turn in Dragon Quest. It was one lone dude killing off a buncha shit in the wild, and plundering stuff from a dead guy named Eldrick. Erdrick <cite>gp1829 posted [p:979415829] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>The_Popo posted... </cite><quote>Everybody didnt take a turn in Dragon Quest. It was one lone dude killing off a buncha shit in the wild, and plundering stuff from a dead guy named Eldrick.</quote>Erdrick</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ifrit 03/17/24 11:53:34 AM #20:	Call of Duty is just a rip off of Mario Bros. You kill enemies. You push buttons. You play as a humanoid character --- The user formerly known as Ashethan <cite>Ifrit posted [p:979415867] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>Call of Duty is just a rip off of Mario Bros.You kill enemies.You push buttons.You play as a humanoid character </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McMarbles 03/17/24 12:03:56 PM #21:	Yeah, but Dragon Quest is just a clone of Wizardry, checkmate atheists --- Currently playing: Final Fantasy VI Pixel Remaster (Switch) Never befriend a man in sandals and always measure twice, cut once. <cite>McMarbles posted [p:979416040] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, but Dragon Quest is just a clone of Wizardry, checkmate atheists </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
action52 03/17/24 12:54:30 PM #22:	Justin2Krelian posted... Sure, but you dont think guys in the industry would at least hear the rise of RPGs in video games? Yep. Of course they did. Yuji Horii (the main creator of Dragon Quest) went to America and Europe where he played both computer and tabletop RPGs. And he has said that Ultima and Wizardry were his main inspirations. This isn't speculation, he's very open about it. --- "It's Brockin' time." Erin Brockovich, Erin Brockovich <cite>action52 posted [p:979416724] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>Justin2Krelian posted... </cite><quote>Sure, but you dont think guys in the industry would at least hear the rise of RPGs in video games?</quote>Yep. Of course they did. Yuji Horii (the main creator of Dragon Quest) went to America and Europe where he played both computer and tabletop RPGs. And he has said that Ultima and Wizardry were his main inspirations. This isn't speculation, he's very open about it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraetorXyn 03/17/24 1:01:23 PM #23:	Dragon Quest was heavily inspired by Wizardry and Ultima. Ill agree that Dragon Quest is more consistently good than Final Fantasy though. If I was putting the single player series entries head to head: FF1 > DQ1 DQ2 > FF2 DQ3 > FF3 FF4 > DQ4 DQ5 > FF5 FF6 > DQ6 FF7 > DQ7 DQ8 > FF8 FF9 > DQ9 DQ11 > FFX But the low points of FF like 2 and 8 really suck, while the low points of DQ are still pretty good. --- https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/profiles/76561198052113750 <cite>PraetorXyn posted [p:979416820] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>Dragon Quest was heavily inspired by Wizardry and Ultima.Ill agree that Dragon Quest is more consistently good than Final Fantasy though. If I was putting the single player series entries head to head:FF1 > DQ1DQ2 > FF2DQ3 > FF3FF4 > DQ4DQ5 > FF5FF6 > DQ6FF7 > DQ7DQ8 > FF8FF9 > DQ9DQ11 > FFXBut the low points of FF like 2 and 8 really suck, while the low points of DQ are still pretty good. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssb_yunglink2 03/17/24 1:04:54 PM #24:	Ive never been able to get into dragon quest. I understand its importance as a series, but I tried getting into dragon quest 11 after not playing any of them for a while, and it felt so absurdly generic to me. --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:979416865] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>Ive never been able to get into dragon quest. I understand its importance as a series, but I tried getting into dragon quest 11 after not playing any of them for a while, and it felt so absurdly generic to me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PokemonExpert44 03/17/24 1:06:39 PM #25:	Dragon Quest is goat --- I just might 6-0 you in Pokemon. Watch out for my awesome teams. <cite>PokemonExpert44 posted [p:979416880] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>Dragon Quest is goat </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Linze 03/19/24 2:27:06 PM #26:	Foppe posted... Both Final Fantasy I and Zelda II got graves of Erdrick, which is a reference to Dragon Quest. That was actually a double reference, in the Japanese version of Zelda II is a reference to Loto (Erdrick), then, in Final Fantasy, it was a reference to Link, the american version changed it to Erdrick. --- Once you're aware of your own art, you can train yourself to identify and replicate the "good" ones... And hands off the bad ones. <cite>Linze posted [p:979452511] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>Foppe posted... </cite><quote>Both Final Fantasy I and Zelda II got graves of Erdrick, which is a reference to Dragon Quest.</quote>That was actually a double reference, in the Japanese version of Zelda II is a reference to Loto (Erdrick), then, in Final Fantasy, it was a reference to Link, the american version changed it to Erdrick. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 03/19/24 2:29:36 PM #27:	I thought it was changed to Link in NA. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:979452557] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>I thought it was changed to Link in NA. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 03/19/24 2:30:36 PM #28:	Foppe posted... Both Final Fantasy I and Zelda II got graves of Erdrick, which is a reference to Dragon Quest. Final Fantasy 1 has a grave of Link, not Erdick --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:979452577] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>Foppe posted... </cite><quote>Both Final Fantasy I and Zelda II got graves of Erdrick, which is a reference to Dragon Quest.</quote>Final Fantasy 1 has a grave of Link, not Erdick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 03/19/24 2:34:07 PM #29:	Tyranthraxus posted... Final Fantasy 1 has a grave of Link, not Erdick It had both, see #26. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:979452645] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>Final Fantasy 1 has a grave of Link, not Erdick</quote>It had both, see #26. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fluttershy 03/19/24 2:36:34 PM #30:	ahem i believe his name was actually loto in that translation in the us pixel remaster it's link --- https://imgur.com/a7zbPmp.gif <cite>Fluttershy posted [p:979452683] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>ahem i believe his name was actually loto in that translationin the us pixel remaster it's link </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 03/19/24 2:42:29 PM #31:	CRON posted... Dragon Quest >>>>> Final Fantasy but most importantly Ys >>>>>> all other JRPGs Modern Ys is definitely better than (most) modern FF --- Common sense says it may not taste good, but it'll make a turd. <cite>Smackems posted [p:979452762] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>CRON posted... </cite><quote>Dragon Quest >>>>> Final Fantasy but most importantly Ys >>>>>> all other JRPGs</quote>Modern Ys is definitely better than (most) modern FF </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssb_yunglink2 03/19/24 9:40:35 PM #32:	CRON posted... Dragon Quest >>>>> Final Fantasy but most importantly Ys >>>>>> all other JRPGs I feel like for me Dragon quest and most early final fantasys are just too generic. Theyre very good at what they do, but I dont find what they do that interesting anymore. Ive always loved the weirder, often jankier jrpgs like the Baiten Kaitos games, star ocean, and SMT. --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:979459801] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>CRON posted... </cite><quote>Dragon Quest >>>>> Final Fantasy but most importantly Ys >>>>>> all other JRPGs</quote>I feel like for me Dragon quest and most early final fantasys are just too generic. Theyre very good at what they do, but I dont find what they do that interesting anymore. Ive always loved the weirder, often jankier jrpgs like the Baiten Kaitos games, star ocean, and SMT. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 03/19/24 10:21:55 PM #33:	ssb_yunglink2 posted... I feel like for me Dragon quest and most early final fantasys are just too generic. Theyre very good at what they do, but I dont find what they do that interesting anymore. Ive always loved the weirder, often jankier jrpgs like the Baiten Kaitos games, star ocean, and SMT. Have you played Ar Tonelico? --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:979460447] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>ssb_yunglink2 posted... </cite><quote>I feel like for me Dragon quest and most early final fantasys are just too generic. Theyre very good at what they do, but I dont find what they do that interesting anymore. Ive always loved the weirder, often jankier jrpgs like the Baiten Kaitos games, star ocean, and SMT.</quote>Have you played Ar Tonelico? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssb_yunglink2 03/19/24 10:26:15 PM #34:	Tyranthraxus posted... Have you played Ar Tonelico? to be honest, ive never even heard of it until this post. Does it fit into the type of rpgs i mentioned? Ill have to check it out --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:979460516] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>Have you played Ar Tonelico?</quote>to be honest, ive never even heard of it until this post. Does it fit into the type of rpgs i mentioned? Ill have to check it out </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 03/19/24 10:47:13 PM #35:	ssb_yunglink2 posted... to be honest, ive never even heard of it until this post. Does it fit into the type of rpgs i mentioned? Ill have to check it out If you like jank you'll love it. Just watch out for the second game. Unless you kill the final boss in three turns it uses an attack that causes a stack overflow and crashes the game. English version only. There's a fan patch to fix it but I have no idea if it's still easily found. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:979460806] in final fant... [t:80723281]...</cite> <quote>ssb_yunglink2 posted... </cite><quote>to be honest, ive never even heard of it until this post. Does it fit into the type of rpgs i mentioned? Ill have to check it out</quote>If you like jank you'll love it. Just watch out for the second game. Unless you kill the final boss in three turns it uses an attack that causes a stack overflow and crashes the game. English version only. There's a fan patch to fix it but I have no idea if it's still easily found. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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