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AlephZero
03/12/24 2:06:18 PM
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https://www.levelman.com/where-black-people-fx-shogun

There's a Japanese proverb that says for a Samurai to be brave, he must have a bit of Black blood. If that's the case, FX's monster hit 'Shogun' has a lot of scared swordsmen

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Gobstoppers12
03/12/24 2:08:46 PM
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Bruh what

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hockeybabe89
03/12/24 2:08:56 PM
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ok

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PokemonExpert44
03/12/24 2:09:14 PM
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Wtf tc

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LeoRavus
03/12/24 2:09:59 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b3be96f5.jpg

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C_Pain
03/12/24 2:10:05 PM
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Why are you giving dopes attention? Genuine question.

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ItsNotA2Mer
03/12/24 2:12:46 PM
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I mean, it's only 3 episodes in.

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AlephZero
03/12/24 2:13:30 PM
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LeoRavus posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b3be96f5.jpg
me irl

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solosnake
03/12/24 2:14:28 PM
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They shoehorned a white guy in there, not sure why they couldnt do the same for a black dude

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wackyteen
03/12/24 2:15:23 PM
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Given the time period and how absolutely isolationist Japan used to be, I feel like the proverb has been misquoted or (intentionally) mistranslated. Or they're meaning something different.

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Rharyx211
03/12/24 2:16:24 PM
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You didn't watch Yasuke?

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R_Jackal
03/12/24 2:16:36 PM
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solosnake posted...
They shoehorned a white guy in there, not sure why they couldnt do the same for a black dude
Haven't watched it yet, but there was a white and a black samurai historically iirc. Dunno when Shogun takes place though. William Adams and Yasuke.
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Were_Wyrm
03/12/24 2:18:56 PM
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R_Jackal posted...
Haven't watched it yet, but there was a white and a black samurai historically iirc. Dunno when Shogun takes place though. William Adams and Yasuke.
Show takes place after Yasuke, and Adams is the white dude in the show.

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mario2000
03/12/24 2:20:07 PM
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did you check behind the couch

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ItsNotA2Mer
03/12/24 2:22:19 PM
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solosnake posted...
They shoehorned a white guy in there

This comment makes my braincells commit jigai ().

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Mew
03/12/24 2:26:55 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Bruh what


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Powdered_Toast
03/12/24 2:29:01 PM
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Oh, oh no. Apparently the origin of that quote isn't Japanese and means something very different than what the author thinks.

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SSJGrimReaper
03/12/24 2:29:15 PM
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is there a romance subplot with the white foreigner dude and some general's daughter like in every period piece

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ZevLoveDOOM
03/12/24 2:31:12 PM
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speaking of Yasuke, there was an anime series on Netflix loosely based on him. which was pretty mid for the most part...

i did enjoy the soundtrack tho.
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ROBANN_88
03/12/24 2:31:16 PM
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IIRC. there was one African samurai in history, but as far as i can tell he was more of a curiosity than a "real" warrior

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Prestoff
03/12/24 2:56:02 PM
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SSJGrimReaper posted...
is there a romance subplot with the white foreigner dude and some general's daughter like in every period piece

...yeah

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garan
03/12/24 3:33:20 PM
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The internet giving voices to every braindead moron in the world was a mistake.
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Prototypic
03/12/24 3:44:59 PM
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So, that is apparently not actually a Japanese proverb, and allegedly originates with a French naval doctor named Georges Maget, who was commenting on his theory about the racial origin of the Japanese people. It is absolutely wild that some made up nonsense by a French racist from ~150 years ago is being repurposed to justify modern historical revisionism.

I don't particularly care about accurate historical racial representation, but this trend of claiming "actually, ancient Japanese people were really Black" is silly.

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Solar_Crimson
03/12/24 3:50:49 PM
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Prestoff posted...
...yeah
Of course there is.

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Prestoff
03/12/24 3:54:34 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Of course there is.

Well to be accurate, it isn't "the general's daughter" the white dude falls in love with but there was a romance subplot in the original Shogun television show.

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Xenogears15
03/12/24 3:56:43 PM
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Prestoff posted...
Well to be accurate, it isn't "the general's daughter" the white dude falls in love with but there was a romance subplot in the original Shogun television show.

* original Shgun novel

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Jagr_68
03/12/24 3:58:21 PM
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Topic should've been closed after post 3

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