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03/11/24 1:02:14 PM
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Makeveli_lives
03/11/24 3:41:23 PM
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https://twitter.com/discussingfilm/status/1767247389247566133?s=46&t=MclOgjiC_DZiKahxLVoZDg

he shouldve been our Anakin.

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InTheEyesOfFire
03/11/24 3:44:24 PM
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Too bad Star Wars chuds suck.

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garan
03/11/24 3:44:36 PM
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Nah, Anakin should never have been that young in the movies-- but I blame that on Lucas and the fact that he had nothing but yes men surrounding him so no one told him it was a dumb idea to have a cutesie 8 year old playing future Vader.
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mercurydude
03/11/24 3:49:32 PM
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It's fucked up that people will treat a little boy like that just because he was in a movie they didn't like (or did like but they're jealous he was in it.)

Ahmed Best was also treated disgracefully by the "fans" and I think some of the actors in the newer movies were also.

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UnsteadyOwl
03/11/24 3:54:43 PM
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No child actor would have come off well with lines like "I'll try spinning, that's a good trick!"

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DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC
03/11/24 3:55:54 PM
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garan posted...
Nah, Anakin should never have been that young in the movies-- but I blame that on Lucas and the fact that he had nothing but yes men surrounding him so no one told him it was a dumb idea to have a cutesie 8 year old playing future Vader.
There was nothing wrong with showing Anakin as a kid. Where George screwed up was not setting that far enough in the past in relation to the OT.

By canon, Anakin was only 45 when he died, after having become Vader at 22. If TPM had been moved back another decade, that would have erased a lot of inconsistencies.

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garan
03/11/24 4:03:04 PM
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Little kid Anakin was always doomed to be annoying as fuck, especially with the terrible writing.
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s0nicfan
03/11/24 4:04:33 PM
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DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted...
There was nothing wrong with showing Anakin as a kid. Where George screwed up was not setting that far enough in the past in relation to the OT.

By canon, Anakin was only 45 when he died, after having become Vader at 22. If TPM had been moved back another decade, that would have erased a lot of inconsistencies.

Didn't Lucas once famously respond to somebody pointing out an inconsistency in the prequel movies around a ship design that shouldn't have been built yet with "it's just a movie?"

I don't think those kinds of details were ever things he cared about.

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Torgo
03/11/24 4:04:39 PM
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Livin' his best life, good for him.

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mercurydude
03/11/24 4:05:51 PM
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Ah, I was completely wrong, I'd read he'd been bullied in school but apparently that was blown out of proportion compared to the real reasons he quit SW (extreme mental illness, his parents' divorce, etc.)

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AlephZero
03/11/24 4:08:03 PM
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respect anakins

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C_Pain
03/11/24 4:08:10 PM
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I didn't do shit to him

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TomClark
03/11/24 4:11:07 PM
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Giving the most important and iconic role in what was at the time probably one of the most (if not the most) anticipated films of all time - one that a notoriously rabid fanbase had been waiting for for over a decade and a half - to a small child was already an impossibly cruel thing to do to a very young kid.

But to then sabotage the lad further by pairing him up for most of his scenes with the most established and able actor in the cast, which would obviously make him look shit in comparison because he was literally a nine-year-old, and by giving him lines that are so obviously risible ("Are you an angel?" / "Yipee!"), and the lad just never stood a fucking chance.

Whoever played Young Vader was always, always going to be slammed by the fans and the press no matter what (look at the hate Hayden got at the time, even though now everyone loves him) because the shoes and the preconceived image was far too big for anyone to fill. And then to make Young Vader a fucking preteen rather than just a young jedi, which was something nobody wanted...

No matter who was in the role, no matter how well it was done, there was going to be vitriol. And the fact that it was really not done well was just the final bullet in an already fully-loaded round of Russian Roulette.

They did the poor kid dirty for sure, and despite his well-publicised issues, honestly it's to his credit that he came out of it even as well as he did.

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Alteres
03/11/24 4:22:19 PM
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Hopefully he is still getting a shit ton of royalties.

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Smackems
03/11/24 4:24:12 PM
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C_Pain posted...
I didn't do shit to him


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Bass
03/11/24 4:29:55 PM
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I feel bad for him. He didn't deserve the harassment he got. Glad he's doing better now and he still enjoys Star Wars, though.

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Kaldrenthebold
03/11/24 4:30:53 PM
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Poor kid got raked through the coals in the late 90s. I wouldn't say he was the best child actor but no kid deserves that kind of ridicule and scorn from a bunch of fucking manbabies. He's got life long problems now.

Internet needs to give him the Brendan Fraiser treatment.

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Gobstoppers12
03/11/24 4:33:34 PM
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He really needs to show up at some Star Wars fan events. He'd get major crowd support, just like Ahmed Best and Hayden Christensen do nowadays. People back in the day were very harsh about their criticisms of the prequel trilogy, but now that a bunch of kids who grew up with the prequels as "their Star Wars" are out there as adults, the feelings have shifted.

New material like Clone Wars, Rebels, Obi-Wan, Ahsoka, etc. has also gone a long way to fill in and smooth over some of the rough parts of the prequels. Nowadays they're as beloved as the original films in many circles of the fandom.

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DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC
03/11/24 4:52:42 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Didn't Lucas once famously respond to somebody pointing out an inconsistency in the prequel movies around a ship design that shouldn't have been built yet with "it's just a movie?"

I don't think those kinds of details were ever things he cared about.

Yeah, well, George also justified changing the first film to have Greedo shoot first by saying if Han shot first, that made him a murderer, and he didn't think people should root for a murderer.

As someone on the Star Wars board said once, "What about Anakin? Aren't we supposed to root for HIM by the end of the movies? Did he slaughter those kids in self-defense?"

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_Valigarmanda_
03/11/24 4:55:08 PM
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Yeah, well, George also justified changing the first film to have Greedo shoot first by saying if Han shot first, that made him a murderer, and he didn't think people should root for a murderer.

That's dumb as hell too, because Greedo had just basically said he was about to kill Han

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RetuenOfDevsman
03/11/24 4:57:26 PM
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The world--or rather, the Internet--should really apologize to most celebrities tbh.
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meralonne
03/11/24 4:58:02 PM
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An Ahsoka action figure is nice and all, but they shouldve gotten him a Turbo Man, too.

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Kradek
03/11/24 4:58:14 PM
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I have nothing to apologize for as I never insulted or bullied any Star Wars actors for any reason. The people who did definitely should apologize.

garan posted...
Nah, Anakin should never have been that young in the movies-- but I blame that on Lucas and the fact that he had nothing but yes men surrounding him so no one told him it was a dumb idea to have a cutesie 8 year old playing future Vader.

I don't know why this would upset people/fans.

It's not like these people are born monsters and are monsters their entire lives. Unless they're verified sociopaths who exhibited all the tell-tale signs as kids, of course.

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MC_BatCommander
03/11/24 4:58:44 PM
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Kid was a pretty bad actor but even great actors couldn't deliver Lucas' awful dialogue without sounding terrible. Dude's writing made Sam Jackson boring, which should be impossible

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DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC
03/11/24 4:58:45 PM
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_Valigarmanda_ posted...
That's dumb as hell too, because Greedo had just basically said he was about to kill Han
That's what happens when you don't have anyone willing to get in your face and say "this is a bad idea".

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DrizztLink
03/11/24 4:59:41 PM
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Wait, "he is still a Star Wars fan?"

I thought he hated Star Wars slightly more than Alec Guiness hated Star Wars.

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Kradek
03/11/24 7:39:38 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Wait, "he is still a Star Wars fan?"

I thought he hated Star Wars slightly more than Alec Guiness hated Star Wars.

Might have been part of his rehab. They're supposed to heal psychological wounds as well as physical.

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bigtiggie23
03/11/24 7:55:24 PM
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meralonne posted...
An Ahsoka action figure is nice and all, but they shouldve gotten him a Turbo Man, too.
Arnold shows up at his house on Christmas every year dressed as Turbo Man, or at least he should.

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UnholyMudcrab
03/11/24 8:09:59 PM
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They shouldn't have put him in that position in the first place. We absolutely did not need to see Anakin as a kid.

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lilORANG
03/11/24 8:33:29 PM
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What are his thoughts on spinning?

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ironman2009
03/11/24 8:34:15 PM
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got nothing to apologize for, i like episode 1 and thought he did fine

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Prototypic
03/11/24 8:51:28 PM
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As pointless and unnecessary as TPM is to the overall story of the prequels, it definitely wasn't Jake Lloyd's fault, and honestly, I don't even remember him being that bad, especially relative to other aspects of the movie. Child actors in general get a lot more shit from lunatics than one might hope.

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Zikten
03/11/24 9:09:00 PM
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I have always felt that lots of times people blame an actor for things that are actually the fault of the producer or director or script writer.

Also, I agree Anakin should not have been a child. I don't know about other people, but I used to get the impression when watching the original trilogy, that Anakin wasn't discovered until he was a full adult. Like he was at least 20 or even 30 when he first met Obi Wan.
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Euripides
03/11/24 9:14:24 PM
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Every little kid in Star Wars history has suuuuucked

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