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Xenogears15
03/07/24 3:51:35 PM
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...to deliver aid.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sotu-biden-announce-emergency-us-military-mission-build/story?id=107889126

Those protests and primary votes may be starting to bear some fruit.

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2Pacavelli
03/07/24 3:53:07 PM
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No that's a military base to continue to occupy Gaza. But in a less savage and bad PR open genocide way that Israel is handling it
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Xenogears15
03/07/24 3:59:11 PM
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2Pacavelli posted...
No that's a military base to continue to occupy Gaza. But in a less savage and bad PR open genocide way that Israel is handling it

How do you figure?

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Agent_Stroud
03/07/24 4:01:13 PM
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Dont you mean a port or harbor, TC? A pier isnt exactly much given I fished off one of those back when I was a kid on the weekends.

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Xenogears15
03/07/24 4:03:22 PM
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Agent_Stroud posted...
Dont you mean a port or harbor, TC? A pier isnt exactly much given I fished off one of those back when I was a kid on the weekends.

I copied from ABC's article title, so ask them?

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Null_Gain
03/07/24 4:04:40 PM
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In theory it can work out. Israel will presumably be less trigger happy firing on international aide if it means accidently firing on US forces.

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Shadow_Don
03/07/24 4:09:08 PM
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Xenogears15 posted...
How do you figure?

Because they learned about settler colonialism and Noam chomsky 5 months ago so now everything is colonialism and occupation.

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SpiritSephiroth
03/07/24 4:14:12 PM
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Null_Gain posted...
In theory it can work out. Israel will presumably be less trigger happy firing on international aide if it means accidently firing on US forces.

They've hit US forces before >_>

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CheshireSimper
03/07/24 4:17:33 PM
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Shadow_Don posted...
Because they learned about settler colonialism and Noam chomsky 5 months ago so now everything is colonialism and occupation.

Damn.
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tehzeldafanboy
03/07/24 4:21:08 PM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
They've hit US forces before >_>
Thy sure have. The USS Liberty, for instance.

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legendary_zell
03/07/24 4:25:35 PM
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Shadow_Don posted...
Because they learned about settler colonialism and Noam chomsky 5 months ago so now everything is colonialism and occupation.

Is what's happening in Israel NOT settler colonialism and occupation? If you want to make that argument, make it, the condescension is unnecessary and immature.

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uwnim
03/07/24 4:29:31 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
Is what's happening in Israel NOT settler colonialism and occupation? If you want to make that argument, make it, the condescension is unnecessary and immature.
Israel is doing that yes. However that does not mean that this whatever the US is doing is for the same purpose.

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legendary_zell
03/07/24 4:34:03 PM
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uwnim posted...
Israel is doing that yes. However that does not mean that this whatever the US is doing is for the same purpose.

Agreed, and wasn't this a much simpler way to say that, if that's what he meant?

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CheshireSimper
03/07/24 4:35:17 PM
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His way was much funnier.
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kelemvor
03/07/24 4:37:35 PM
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Shadow_Don posted...
Because they learned about settler colonialism and Noam chomsky 5 months ago so now everything is colonialism and occupation.

Exactly. This is why we can't help in Haiti as well. If we step foot there we become dirty colonialists that are only trying to improve their living conditions so we can resume raping their economy or something something whatever.
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hockeybabe89
03/07/24 4:44:43 PM
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2Pacavelli posted...
No that's a military base to continue to occupy Gaza. But in a less savage and bad PR open genocide way that Israel is handling it
What does aiding Gaza look like to you?

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Fenriswolf
03/07/24 4:45:32 PM
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kelemvor posted...
Exactly. This is why we can't help in Haiti as well. If we step foot there we become dirty colonialists that are only trying to improve their living conditions so we can resume raping their economy or something something whatever.

Implying that the US actually do things out of altruism LMAO

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ClayGuida
03/07/24 4:49:49 PM
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This is the type of shit we did in areas ravaged by tyrants.

Speaks volumes to where Israel stands right now on the world stage.

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Shadow_Don
03/07/24 4:50:00 PM
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hockeybabe89 posted...
What does aiding Gaza look like to you?

Dropping a nuke on bibi

Not even being that facetious I think a lot of them would be cool with that

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hockeybabe89
03/07/24 4:50:54 PM
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Fenriswolf posted...
Implying that the US actually do things out of altruism LMAO
Shades of "Democrats only let LGBTQ have rights because it earns them votes"

Noted. Still gonna take people doing good things for bad reasons over not doing them at all. We all want America to stop doing bad things, but only if they do it the right way?

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legendary_zell
03/07/24 4:51:10 PM
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kelemvor posted...
Exactly. This is why we can't help in Haiti as well. If we step foot there we become dirty colonialists that are only trying to improve their living conditions so we can resume raping their economy or something something whatever.


......Maybe that has something to do with that being true damn near everytime before now? That history doesn't just go away, people aren't going to just trust blindly, and open colonialism and cloak and dagger stuff has lasting consequences.

Would you say that the history of the US in the Caribbean or South America or Asia or Africa is one worthy of trust?

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2Pacavelli
03/07/24 4:54:05 PM
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Shadow_Don posted...
Because they learned about settler colonialism and Noam chomsky 5 months ago so now everything is colonialism and occupation.

Speak for yourself
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HashtagSEP
03/07/24 4:58:24 PM
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2Pacavelli posted...
Speak for yourself

I feel like you could've workshopped this comeback a bit longer.

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Shadow_Don
03/07/24 5:06:52 PM
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HashtagSEP posted...
I feel like you could've workshopped this comeback a bit longer.

I think they tried

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Chicken
03/07/24 5:11:20 PM
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Shadow_Don posted...
Dropping a nuke on bibi

Not even being that facetious I think a lot of them would be cool with that
not a nuke but one of those non explosive missiles that basically just squashes a single person without injuring anyone else. Turn him into tomato soup.

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emblem-man
03/07/24 5:13:11 PM
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Chicken posted...
not a nuke but one of those non explosive missiles that basically just squashes a single person without injuring anyone else. Turn him into tomato soup.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/25d53253.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/187aa9e6.jpg

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Starks
03/07/24 5:14:27 PM
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It's a nice weapon. That's how they killed Zawahiri with minimal collateral damage.

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DrizztLink
03/07/24 5:14:32 PM
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emblem-man posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/25d53253.jpg

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Guide
03/07/24 5:14:33 PM
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Of course US is acting to benefit US. Doesn't mean it it's going to be bad for Gaza.

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ironman2009
03/07/24 5:19:01 PM
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Guide posted...
Of course US is acting to benefit US. Doesn't mean it it's going to be bad for Gaza.


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Mizznox
03/07/24 5:43:38 PM
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Agent_Stroud posted...
Dont you mean a port or harbor, TC? A pier isnt exactly much given I fished off one of those back when I was a kid on the weekends.
Piers can also be huge and handle large ships.

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03/07/24 6:03:23 PM
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ScazarMeltex
03/07/24 6:42:05 PM
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kelemvor posted...
Exactly. This is why we can't help in Haiti as well. If we step foot there we become dirty colonialists that are only trying to improve their living conditions so we can resume raping their economy or something something whatever.
My dude, you have a lot of learning to do about Haiti's history. Like the fact that the US has done exactly that, multiple times.

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Prismsblade
03/07/24 6:54:20 PM
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Considering Israels intent for Gaza I have a good idea what or who this Pier is intended for in the near future.

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Enclave
03/07/24 6:55:41 PM
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2Pacavelli posted...
No that's a military base to continue to occupy Gaza. But in a less savage and bad PR open genocide way that Israel is handling it

That's a bit of a stretch, on the surface this looks good and time will tell if it actually isn't.

The way it's sounding to me? Biden was indeed pressured by the Undecided votes in the primary and is trying to shift course a bit to try to win back some support which yeah, literally the whole point of doing that so good on the people who voted Undecided.

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Smashingpmkns
03/07/24 6:56:42 PM
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Would be a better idea to cease all weapons sales to Israel immediately

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Enclave
03/07/24 6:58:04 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Would be a better idea to cease all weapons sales to Israel immediately

Yes, it would, but don't shit on smaller victories. Take what wins you get.

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1337toothbrush
03/07/24 7:02:29 PM
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Enclave posted...
Yes, it would, but don't shit on smaller victories. Take what wins you get.
I'm sure we'll all look back fondly on the small victories when Palestine is completely wiped off the map. Sorry if I don't seem enthusiastic about these "wins".

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Smashingpmkns
03/07/24 7:10:24 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...
I'm sure we'll all look back fondly on the small victories when Palestine is completely wiped off the map. Sorry if I don't seem enthusiastic about these "wins".
Or when this structure gets bombed to hell a few days after its built.

Hope it pans out and this brings much needed supplies to those that need it but this is like putting a bandaid on a severed limb.

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Torgo
03/07/24 7:12:36 PM
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Shadow_Don posted...
Because they learned about settler colonialism and Noam chomsky 5 months ago so now everything is colonialism and occupation.

This is the right wing and the Uiygur(sp?) situation all over again... the right wing were utterly ignorant to the apartheid conditions in Gaza, so in their inflated sense of ego and entitlement from being American exceptionalists and white supremacists - they can only fathom that others only learned about these things since the October 7th Hamas attacks...

  • The irony being that the right wing learned that these are even issues that could potentially exist because of the publicity and protests created from the American left in the first place.... otherwise they would have been exposed to literally zero voices calling out the genocide of Palestinians. No one else in media or power would have stood up and said anything, they never do.


I think most conservatives support the literal genocide of Palestinians or don't care either way. Some only care about Israel to the extend it ties into Christian biblical prophecy.

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thronedfire2
03/07/24 7:12:52 PM
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kelemvor posted...
Exactly. This is why we can't help in Haiti as well. If we step foot there we become dirty colonialists that are only trying to improve their living conditions so we can resume raping their economy or something something whatever.

you want us in Haiti for the next 20 years? there's a reason Haiti doesn't want us there. the place has been fucked ever since white people showed up

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Thanatos_the_Great
03/07/24 7:13:22 PM
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hockeybabe89 posted...
What does aiding Gaza look like to you?

At an absolute minimum, imposing a boycott of all arms sales to Israel, suspending all US government funding for Israel and directing all that money to UNRWA instead.

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EPR-radar
03/07/24 7:19:00 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
you want us in Haiti for the next 20 years? there's a reason Haiti doesn't want us there. the place has been fucked ever since white people showed up
Slavery in Haiti was ended by a slave revolt leading to a political revolution.

The rest of the world has basically been punishing Haiti for setting that example ever since.

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Enclave
03/07/24 7:20:49 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...
I'm sure we'll all look back fondly on the small victories when Palestine is completely wiped off the map. Sorry if I don't seem enthusiastic about these "wins".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM1LgtQPSVM

You should check that out. It's not completely relevant but still somewhat relevant.

Phrasing matters, coming out with a pure doomer stance on things like this helps nobody and can actively hurt. It's one thing when the Biden admin is doing absolutely nothing, then yeah it's important to call that shit out like I myself was even as the Liberal posters whined and cried that we were somehow hurting Biden by trying to influence him in the fucking Primary. However when he actually is doing some good? Yeah, keep pushing him to do more and bigger steps but holy shit take the wins we get. If Biden reaches out to try to win us we need to accept the reach out instead of slap him away. He needs to think your vote is able to be gotten else he'll stop trying.

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thronedfire2
03/07/24 7:21:30 PM
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EPR-radar posted...
Slavery in Haiti was ended by a slave revolt leading to a political revolution.

The rest of the world has basically been punishing Haiti for setting that example ever since.

and the assassination of their president last year(or the year before?) barely even got any news coverage. even though it was on live TV if I remember correctly.

but Haiti hasn't exactly had a history of peaceful government transitions since the 1500s

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Shadow_Don
03/07/24 7:26:32 PM
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Torgo posted...
This is the right wing and the Uiygur(sp?) situation all over again.

Are you talking about the Uyghurs and China?

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Shadow_Don
03/07/24 7:30:50 PM
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EPR-radar posted...
The rest of the world has basically been punishing Haiti for setting that example ever since.

Having one of the deadliest quakes in human history happen only 15 years ago probably didn't help.


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thronedfire2
03/07/24 7:33:27 PM
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Shadow_Don posted...
Having one of the deadliest quakes in human history happen only 15 years ago probably didn't help.

..yeah, and there's a reason they're reluctant to accept aid to rebuild the infrastructure. because whoever pays for it will want something, even though the US alone could afford it easily.

I have a bunch of employees/coworkers from Haiti and they all used to go back home for vacation every year but most of them don't anymore. They just keep sending money home, and one week pay in the US is more than anyone makes in a year in Haiti right now

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