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Damn_Underscore
03/05/24 8:31:04 AM
#1:


they should look like this

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/15da13e3.jpg

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Euripides
03/05/24 8:31:50 AM
#2:


IIII isn't a Roman Numeral, though

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Solar_Crimson
03/05/24 8:32:12 AM
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What about IX for 9?

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Foppe
03/05/24 8:32:16 AM
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...so you got a problem with IV but accepts IX?

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Tanthalas
03/05/24 8:32:28 AM
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Shouldnt 9 be VIIII then?

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Revelation34
03/05/24 8:32:46 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
they should look like this

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/15da13e3.jpg


No they shouldn't. IIII Isn't a Roman numeral.

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Turbam
03/05/24 8:34:29 AM
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I
II
III
IIII
IIIII
IIIIII
IIIIIII
IIIIIIII
IIIIIIIII
IIIIIIIIII
IIIIIIIIIIII

Those are the only Roman numerals I accept

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NeonOPPAl
03/05/24 8:35:04 AM
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Tanthalas posted...
Shouldnt 9 be VIIII then?


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Damn_Underscore
03/05/24 8:35:14 AM
#9:


IIII is used on Roman Numeral clocks because IV and VI at that viewing angle can be confusing

IX and XI dont share the same problem

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NeonOPPAl
03/05/24 8:37:18 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
IIII is used on Roman Numeral clocks because IV and VI at that viewing angle can be confusing

IX and XI dont share the same problem
It's only a problem if people are dumb lol. They should lrn2read

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Foppe
03/05/24 8:37:24 AM
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https://youtu.be/QEGwKTQrqmQ?si=QgLubup5N5Ez_egW

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Tanthalas
03/05/24 8:38:23 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
IIII is used on Roman Numeral clocks because IV and VI at that viewing angle can be confusing

IX and XI dont share the same problem
lolno.

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Hornezz
03/05/24 8:39:29 AM
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Both IIII and IV are valid Roman numerals. Both were used interchangeably in ancient times.

Euripides posted...
IIII isn't a Roman Numeral, though

Revelation34 posted...
No they shouldn't. IIII Isn't a Roman numeral.
False.

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Revelation34
03/05/24 8:39:53 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
IIII is used on Roman Numeral clocks because IV and VI at that viewing angle can be confusing

IX and XI dont share the same problem


If you know how to read a clock and basic math then it isn't at all confusing.

Hornezz posted...
Both IIII and IV are valid Roman numerals. Both were used interchangeably in ancient times.


Nah.

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NeonOPPAl
03/05/24 8:40:44 AM
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Hornezz posted...
Both IIII and IV are valid Roman numerals. Both were used interchangeably in ancient times.
Nah, the people who used IIII are the same ones that say shit like "no cap!" back in the day. People who use IV were the sophisticated and classy individuals of that time

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Damn_Underscore
03/05/24 8:43:01 AM
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Next time you see a Roman numeral clock, especially a big one in a public place, look at the numeral used for 4

you may be surprised

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Purple_Cheetah
03/05/24 8:44:14 AM
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I just use the orientation of the hands and the notches, because some lack numbers. There's one watch/clock face that I think my dad either got or I came across and I immediately hated it. It had 3, 5, 7, 9, and 12 represented numerically.

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ROBANN_88
03/05/24 8:46:34 AM
#18:


Euripides posted...
IIII isn't a Roman Numeral, though

I believe they used both at some point
Same with 8 could be written VIII or IIX

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TheSavageDragon
03/05/24 8:46:35 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Next time you see a Roman numeral clock, especially a big one in a public place, look at the numeral used for 4

you may be surprised

I won't be though.
Every single big Roman numeral clock in a public place here is on a church bell tower. They have been there for hundreds of years and not a single one I've ever seen featured a IIII. And several of those things were built under Roman rule.
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UnsteadyOwl
03/05/24 8:48:23 AM
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If those other clocks bother you how about this one?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/50161211.jpg

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Myzery
03/05/24 8:48:24 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Next time you see a Roman numeral clock, especially a big one in a public place, look at the numeral used for 4

you may be surprised

big ben says no
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ellis123
03/05/24 8:50:43 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
you may be surprised
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8585f6af.jpg

I have to agree, with how big of a deal you were making about it I would have assumed it was actually harder to figure out the numbers.

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Hornezz
03/05/24 8:52:02 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
Nah.

As per usual, CE doesn't know what it's talking about.

This here is a denarius from emperor Antoninus Pius. The reverse legend reads COS IIII, indicating this coin was struck after his fourth term as consul in 145 AD.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9e821fd1.jpg

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ROBANN_88
03/05/24 8:52:45 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1pec3f/roman_numeral_iiii_on_church_clock_why/

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/68ewva/did_the_way_roman_numerals_are_written_ever/

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NeonOPPAl
03/05/24 8:52:57 AM
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You really don't even need the numbers anyway >_> You can tell the time by where the hands are

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f8282e50.jpg

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pjnelson
03/05/24 8:53:55 AM
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Euripides posted...
IIII isn't a Roman Numeral, though


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Goldenguy
03/05/24 8:56:21 AM
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IIII getting ratioed hard lol

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pjnelson
03/05/24 8:56:45 AM
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Hornezz posted...
As per usual, CE doesn't know what it's talking about.

This here is a denarius from emperor Antoninus Pius. The reverse legend reads COS IIII, indicating this coin was struck after his fourth term as consul in 145 AD.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9e821fd1.jpg

Okay, and 2,000 years from now people can point back to how people get stuff wrong today and use that as evidence that it was correct. Obviously "u is goin their latr" is correct spelling and grammar in 2024.

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TyVulpine
03/05/24 8:59:24 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
No they shouldn't. IIII Isn't a Roman numeral.
Actually, it was in Europe until the 17th century.

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Hornezz
03/05/24 8:59:36 AM
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pjnelson posted...
Okay, and 2,000 years from now people can point back to how people get stuff wrong today and use that as evidence that it was correct. Obviously "u is goin their latr" is correct spelling and grammar in 2024.
Are you actually arguing that Romans were using Roman numerals wrong?

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NeonOPPAl
03/05/24 9:02:52 AM
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Hornezz posted...
Are you actually arguing that Romans were using Roman numerals wrong?
Americans use English grammar wrong. Romans use Roman numerals wrong. Some dumb Roman intern probably printed that coin

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ANort
03/05/24 9:02:52 AM
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NeonOPPAl posted...
You really don't even need the numbers anyway >_> You can tell the time by where the hands are

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f8282e50.jpg
"What time is it?"
"Idk, something past something"

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ROBANN_88
03/05/24 9:04:07 AM
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they started using IIII, then switched over to IV to abbreviate it and make it easier

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NeonOPPAl
03/05/24 9:06:57 AM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
they started using IIII, then switched over to IV to abbreviate it and make it easier
Thank goodness for that

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Garioshi
03/05/24 9:25:18 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
IIII is used on Roman Numeral clocks because IV and VI at that viewing angle can be confusing

IX and XI dont share the same problem
It's an analog clock, you should be able to read it with no numbers at all.

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Mistere_Man
03/05/24 9:37:56 AM
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ANort posted...
"What time is it?"
"Idk, something past something"

Looks like 10:12, but I am probably wrong.

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bigblu89
03/05/24 9:43:31 AM
#37:


Hornezz posted...
As per usual, CE doesn't know what it's talking about.

This here is a denarius from emperor Antoninus Pius. The reverse legend reads COS IIII, indicating this coin was struck after his fourth term as consul in 145 AD.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9e821fd1.jpg

But that wasn't marking 40 years, it was marking his 4th-10 year term.

So it was "Four Tens", not "Forty"


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CassandraCroft
03/05/24 11:26:58 AM
#38:


Oh look what a terrific flopic!

IV is four end of story! Always has been always will be!

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Mistere_Man
03/05/24 11:39:08 AM
#39:


I found this online, I have no idea if it is accurate or not so if not I apologize.

When Roman numerals were in use by the Roman Empire, the name of the Romans' supreme deity, Jupiter, was spelled as IVPPITER in Latin. There was a feeling that using the start of Jupiter's name on a clock dial, and it being upside down where it fell, would be disrespectful to the deity, so IIII was introduced instead.

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ellis123
03/05/24 11:45:10 AM
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Mistere_Man posted...
I found this online, I have no idea if it is accurate or not so if not I apologize.

When Roman numerals were in use by the Roman Empire, the name of the Romans' supreme deity, Jupiter, was spelled as IVPPITER in Latin. There was a feeling that using the start of Jupiter's name on a clock dial, and it being upside down where it fell, would be disrespectful to the deity, so IIII was introduced instead.
It being weird, completely outdated superstition makes a whole lot more sense than trying to pretend that IV being hard to read is the culprit for why clocks are that way.

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FL81
03/05/24 12:33:23 PM
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I've always wondered why clocks have "IIII" for 4, but now that I think about it, having IV and VI would get confusing

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Damn_Underscore
03/05/24 12:37:29 PM
#42:


ellis123 posted...
It being weird, completely outdated superstition makes a whole lot more sense than trying to pretend that IV being hard to read is the culprit for why clocks are that way.

You know Roman Numerals are outdated in general right.

Apparently no one knows the true singular answer or if there even is one. See here

https://monochrome-watches.com/why-do-clocks-and-watches-use-roman-numeral-iiii-instead-of-iv/

Visual balance is one of the reasons given btw

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ellis123
03/05/24 12:38:23 PM
#43:


Damn_Underscore posted...
Visual balance is one of the reasons given btw
I'm not saying that it wasn't, just that it makes a whole lot more sense if it came from weird superstition.

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Tyranthraxus
03/05/24 12:39:12 PM
#44:


Euripides posted...
IIII isn't a Roman Numeral, though

Yes it is.

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argonautweakend
03/05/24 12:39:55 PM
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most common in older watches and clocks, they do us IIII for 4 more often than IV.

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Ricemills
03/05/24 12:40:46 PM
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Should've not V

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Revelation34
03/07/24 10:36:28 AM
#47:


Hornezz posted...


As per usual, CE doesn't know what it's talking about.

This here is a denarius from emperor Antoninus Pius. The reverse legend reads COS IIII, indicating this coin was struck after his fourth term as consul in 145 AD.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9e821fd1.jpg


That's fake since old coins did not have dates on them.

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Ricemills
03/07/24 10:51:34 AM
#48:


We had this debate with Call of Duty Black Ops IIII

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Hornezz
03/07/24 11:54:37 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/3e0c232d.jpg

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