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NhojAnec
03/05/24 8:12:20 AM
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Yeah, we all worry about regular street crime, abuse of power by police white collar crime, terrorism, or hell even crimes committed by our own government.

But I think people underrate the danger of organized crime.

Sure, the mafia isn't nearly what it once was but make NO mistake about it......it's still going and though they mainly commit financial related crimes these days they still aren't above killing people and putting hits out on people and their families to tie up loose ends. There are probably corrupt people in government that are also on their payroll as well as cops and judges.

Let's not forget the terrible drug cartel wars that are going on in Mexico right now that the media isn't really talking about. And guess what? A lot of these cartels are operating in the US too.

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BobanMarjanovic
03/05/24 8:16:30 AM
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No but I live in the US

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Southernfatman
03/05/24 8:17:45 AM
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Mmm, organized crime. That's-a nice-a donut.

There's nothing like that around my area besides general government/white collar corruption that goes hand in hand, which is the bigger threat to the average person.

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Sufferedphoenix
03/05/24 8:19:05 AM
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NhojAnec posted...
Yeah, we all worry about regular street crime, abuse of power by police white collar crime, terrorism, or hell even crimes committed by our own government.

But I think people underrate the danger of organized crime.

Sure, the mafia isn't nearly what it once was but make NO mistake about it......it's still going and though they mainly commit financial related crimes these days they still aren't above killing people and putting hits out on people and their family. There are probably corrupt people in government that are also on their payroll as well as cops and judges.

Let's not forget the terrible drug cartel wars that are going on in Mexico right now that the media isn't really talking about. And guess what? A lot of these cartels are operating in the US too.

Having worked a prison and not being in the bloods good side and I live in blood territory yeah kinda. And yes bloods are organized crime by the textbook definition.

I also had a death threat put on me by a ms 13 member. Fortunately I don't think they are big around here.


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LeoRavus
03/05/24 8:43:17 AM
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I'm worried about corporations and their increasing power. So yes.

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whitelytning
03/05/24 11:02:48 AM
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Yes. Its very present but most dont realize it.

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ssb_yunglink2
03/05/24 11:05:49 AM
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Certain places of course deal with organized crime at a much greater level than others. I personally dont worry about it all in my daily life, but some people have to deal with cartels and gangs on a daily basis.

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Dark_Arbron
03/05/24 11:23:18 AM
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LeoRavus posted...
I'm worried about corporations and their increasing power. So yes.


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Smallville
03/05/24 11:26:40 AM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Certain places of course deal with organized crime at a much greater level than others. I personally dont worry about it all in my daily life, but some people have to deal with cartels and gangs on a daily basis.
isn't u.s. better than most parts of the world for this stuff? you mean like mafia right, prob worst in nyc area easily, than other parts of u.s.?

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Sufferedphoenix
03/05/24 11:29:59 AM
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Smallville posted...
isn't u.s. better than most parts of the world for this stuff? you mean like mafia right, prob worst in nyc area easily, than other parts of u.s.?
Gangs like crips and bloods are also organized crime. They fit the definition. They got ranks They got operations and they have been known to bribe government officials. They might be a bit rag tag compared to the mafia but make no mistake they do have some orginization

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ssb_yunglink2
03/05/24 11:40:38 AM
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Sufferedphoenix posted...
Gangs like crips and bloods are also organized crime. They fit the definition. They got ranks They got operations and they have been known to bribe government officials. They might be a bit rag tag compared to the mafia but make no mistake they do have some orginization
Yeah I absolutely consider gangs like bloods and crips to be organized crime.

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Dark_Arbron
03/05/24 11:41:31 AM
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Organized crime doesn't affect the average person. They only (think they) care about it because the media calls attention to it.

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HBKick18
03/05/24 11:42:56 AM
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i do worry about organized crime aka the police

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Sufferedphoenix
03/05/24 11:44:29 AM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Yeah I absolutely consider gangs like bloods and crips to be organized crime.

I was honestly shocked to learn it. I took organized crime as a class In college. Honestly probably my favorite class I ever took. I still hold on to the text book I had for that class.

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Ratchetrockon
03/05/24 11:49:58 AM
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No I worry about random shootings by random ppl tho. Just can't get it out of my mind when I go to public areas

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Smallville
03/05/24 11:50:48 AM
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but the mafia is much less than it was yrs ago in u.s. ? like bloods and crips crime might be increasing ......

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SpawnShadow
03/05/24 11:55:57 AM
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I'm considerably more afraid of my own country and of the people currently warping it into a Christofascist-run hell on earth. If you don't count the Trump-run GOP as "organized crime", then organized crime is considerably low on my laundry list of shit to worry about.
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Smallville
03/05/24 12:03:38 PM
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SpawnShadow posted...
I'm considerably more afraid of my own country and of the people currently warping it into a Christofascist-run hell on earth. If you don't count the Trump-run GOP as "organized crime", then organized crime is considerably low on my laundry list of shit to worry about.
oh you really are much more concerned about that stuff? i kinda agree. I mean stuff like trying to criminalize abortion, prosecute people for it? insane and prob also evil.....

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Guide
03/05/24 12:06:45 PM
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I went to high school with an ms13 sect leader. I was much prouder than I was self-preserving and gave him all the shit he gave me and mine. Looking back, I only avoided a hit because I lived so far away from school, and he went to prison for murder like a year later.

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Smallville
03/05/24 12:08:04 PM
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Guide posted...
I went to high school with an ms13 sect leader. I was much prouder than I was self-preserving and gave him all the shit he gave me and mine. Looking back, I only avoided a hit because I lived so far away from school, and he went to prison for murder like a year later.
you mean he bullied you, was real mean to you?

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Zwijn
03/05/24 12:08:05 PM
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Not in my area (that much) but isnt too safe, lots of liquidations with collateral.
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Guide
03/05/24 12:12:41 PM
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Smallville posted...
you mean he bullied you, was real mean to you?

He tried, perhaps.

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Smallville
03/05/24 12:17:39 PM
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Guide posted...
He tried, perhaps.
did you like physically fight him? he prob wanted to fight you. No surprise that he also was probably extremely violent. Was your school in one of the worse districts around though...etc...?

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ROBANN_88
03/05/24 12:20:45 PM
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on a personal level, no, i'm not worried

but seeing as Sweden has the highest amount of gangrelated violence in europe, i'm a bit worried on the macro scale

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TommyVercetti
03/05/24 12:21:37 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
on a personal level, no, i'm not worried

but seeing as Sweden has the highest amount of gangrelated violence in europe, i'm a bit worried on the macro scale
really? sweden is kinda bad? did not know
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CoyoteTheGreat
03/05/24 12:21:51 PM
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The Republican Party is just an organized crime syndicate. So yeah, I do a lot.

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ROBANN_88
03/05/24 12:27:32 PM
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TommyVercetti posted...
really? sweden is kinda bad? did not know

last time i checked the statistics.
in relation to bombings and shootings, one was "Highest amount in Europe", the other was "Only country in Europe where it's increasing", but i don't remember which is which

Note: i say Europe, but it might just be referring to the EU, also does not include the war in Ukraine

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Zwijn
03/05/24 12:28:26 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
last time i checked the statistics.
in relation to bombings and shootings, one was "Highest amount in Europe", the other was "Only country in Europe where it's increasing", but i don't remember which is which

Note: i say Europe, but it might just the EU, also does not include the war in Ukraine
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Smallville
03/05/24 12:34:29 PM
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Zwijn posted...
Probably the first one since its increasing in other EU countries too.
really? but you think it is still safer on avg than most parts of u.s.?

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ROBANN_88
03/05/24 12:40:08 PM
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Zwijn posted...
Probably the first one since its increasing in other EU countries too.

i meant that both of those statements the were true at the time, i just couldn't remember which was referring to shootings, and which were refrring to bombings.
also to be clear, i think that statistic is a few years ago, i have not looked deeply into updates

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Smallville
03/05/24 12:41:13 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
i meant that both of those statements the were true at the time, i just couldn't remember which was referring to shootings, and which were refrring to bombings.
also to be clear, i think that statistic is a few years ago, i have not looked deeply into updates
guns are illegal in sweden?

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Guide
03/05/24 12:42:05 PM
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Smallville posted...
did you like physically fight him? he prob wanted to fight you. No surprise that he also was probably extremely violent. Was your school in one of the worse districts around though...etc...?

It never came on to a full fight. Like, for how much he sucked, he was voluntarily going to school, because he knew it was his best option for the future. Had kids at like age 15. Just barely controlled himself because he was one step away from just getting expelled, and sent to house arrest or juvee or something like that. It also helps that I was like 2 weight classes above him.

I actually loved my school though. It was for difficult and at-risk types. My people, mostly.

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ROBANN_88
03/05/24 12:42:07 PM
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Smallville posted...
really? but you think it is still safer on avg than most parts of u.s.?

this is european countries in comparison to other european countries.
i think US is still way worse off, since we don't get school shooting massacres every other day

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ellis123
03/05/24 12:42:43 PM
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No. I'm American, I am far more fearful of random, systemic crime.

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ROBANN_88
03/05/24 12:43:19 PM
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Smallville posted...
guns are illegal in sweden?

i believe you can have hunting rifles if you have a hunting license but that's about it

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Zwijn
03/05/24 12:45:34 PM
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Smallville posted...
really? but you think it is still safer on avg than most parts of u.s.?

www.theguardian.com/world/ 2022/feb/07/dutch-torture-container-shows-cocaine-users- consequences-of-their-habits

www.theguardian.com/world/ 2023/nov/30/nine-men-to-be-tried-for-of-dutch-reporter-peter-r-de-vries

https://www.leidensecurityandglobalaffairs.nl/ articles/explosive-violence-hand-grenades-in-the-netherlands

https://www.dutchnews.nl/2024/02/ mega-marengo-the-largest-criminal-trial-in-dutch-history/

My province:
https://nltimes.nl/2022/12/08/ research-shows-limburg-municipalities-vulnerable-organized-crime

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NoxObscuras
03/05/24 12:45:43 PM
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Not really no. If I lived in a country where cartels run pretty much unchecked, then yeah I'd be worried.

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Sufferedphoenix
03/05/24 12:48:36 PM
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Smallville posted...
did you like physically fight him? he prob wanted to fight you. No surprise that he also was probably extremely violent. Was your school in one of the worse districts around though...etc...?

Ms 13 isn't known for talking a lot of shit if they plan on doing something. They keep quiet and just do it. Main reason I'm not overly worried about the death threat I got dude was just drunk and talking shit

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Thud
03/05/24 12:49:02 PM
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MS-13 is fucking terrifying and I won't live anywhere they have a foothold/significant activity

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Smallville
03/05/24 12:56:33 PM
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Thud posted...
MS-13 is fucking terrifying and I won't live anywhere they have a foothold/significant activity
where is ms 13 most big, in which part of u.s.?

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ForsakenHermit
03/05/24 1:35:50 PM
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I'm a little worried about Mexican drug cartels as I've heard that they have sleeper cells ready to cause havoc if we do something stupid in Mexico.

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Bass
03/05/24 1:37:23 PM
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No.

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Ricemills
03/05/24 1:39:14 PM
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Private or government?

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Sufferedphoenix
03/05/24 7:52:17 PM
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Yeah most people probably don't have a reason to think about it. I just had to deal with them due to my job

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Glob
03/05/24 7:54:27 PM
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My family had ties to organised crime that prevented me from being eligible to be a police officer in a certain part of the country.

I applied but was rejected on the basis that my familial association would create a conflict of interest.
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DrizztLink
03/05/24 7:55:24 PM
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Sufferedphoenix posted...
Yeah most people probably don't have a reason to think about it. I just had to deal with them due to my job
Bootlegger?

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bigtiggie23
03/05/24 7:57:32 PM
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I'm more worried about the random hillbillies who now believe they have the right to shoot you just because you looked at them or their stuff.

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Sufferedphoenix
03/05/24 7:58:15 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Bootlegger?

Pretty sure it's well known I worked in a prison. And they didnt like me too much. Well the bloods anyways and that one ms 13 member. A few bound for glory members too. The rest of the gangs didn't seem too bothered by me.

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ShineboxPhil
03/05/24 8:14:53 PM
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MS13's have been heavily neutered with President Bukele crippling their central leadership in El Salvador to the point that it's actually safe to venture out in the streets now...

I'd be more worried about this new gang making waves in New York called Tren de Aragua. Supposedly they been linked to even the Venezuelan President himself.

Also the current cartel war in Mexico between Sinaloa and CJNG that have already spread to countries like Ecuador

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