Current Events > What's your opinion on "wokelization"

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HylianFox
03/02/24 2:56:56 PM
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For instance, say a Japanese game stars a white character, who's made black for the western release.

I'm assuming this is a thing, right? That's what gets gamers today all pissed off.

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Zero_Destroyer
03/02/24 2:58:41 PM
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i mostly ignore stupid gamer culture war shit because most of the people I've seen who discuss it all the time seem like they just hate video games altogether and are deeply miserable (or are influencers that grift for cash on it)

if a new release is somehow ruined by localization there's a million options for me to play another game I haven't cracked open in a while or one I wanted to play anyways. Why treat it like the apocalypse, etc etc.

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Doe
03/02/24 3:00:30 PM
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Im not engaging with the premise that a black actor was cast for woke.

If the setting was changed from Japan to say the US then if someone complains about a black actor cast but not the setting itself then theyre racist. Theyre just mad theyre seeing a black person. Thats what was going on with Netflix death note for example.

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pegusus123456
03/02/24 3:02:09 PM
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Anyone unironically using the word woke should have their social media accounts banned

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ScazarMeltex
03/02/24 3:03:34 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Anyone unironically using the word woke should have their social media accounts banned
Word.

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FortuneCookie
03/02/24 3:03:37 PM
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HylianFox posted...
For instance, say a Japanese game stars a white character, who's made black for the western release.

I'm assuming this is a thing, right? That's what gets gamers today all pissed off.

It's so annoying when you rescue the princess in the final dungeon only to have her sleep with the Black archer on your wedding night. Why do western studios keep doing this? I can't afford to import the Japanese version all of the time.

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alphagamble
03/02/24 3:04:41 PM
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I thought this refers to when the translators don't do a 1:1 translation

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Zero_Destroyer
03/02/24 3:04:48 PM
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Doe posted...
Im not engaging with the premise that a black actor was cast for woke.

If the setting was changed from Japan to say the US then if someone complains about a black actor cast but not the setting itself then theyre racist. Theyre just mad theyre seeing a black person. Thats what was going on with Netflix death note for example.

One thing worth noting is that sometimes you get race changes or whatever in casting and the show/movie ends up being bad, but it's due to the writing and often has nothing to do with the race swapping in the casting. So even when you get people up in arms about it, they are just dead-in focused on race and not the actual problems with the adaptation. Basically happened with live action Bebop, as if Faye wearing skimpier clothes or Jet being white would've somehow mended it.

At the end of the day it's usually bigots that don't like art/gaming beyond their nostalgia and they'll happily eat slop if the thing conforms to solely the visual components and get cranky if it's changed on the most shallow level. It's just worth ignoring entirely since the industry rightfully refuses to engage with them since they're loser freaks

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Axiom
03/02/24 3:06:05 PM
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Weird Al is running out of ideas
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HylianFox
03/02/24 3:20:45 PM
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What's funny is this is the opposite of what used to happen.

Like say, gay Japanese characters who are made "cousins" for the western release.
>__>

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BloodMoon7
03/02/24 3:37:14 PM
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Well no that likely wouldn't happen if it's a Japanese game. The character isn't even white unless it's fantasy setting, the character is Japanese.

Anyway it only bothers me if they censor things that didn't really need to be censored or if they do dumb shit like translate rice balls as jelly filled donuts.

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Prismsblade
03/02/24 3:40:20 PM
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Thats called black/white washing, which doesn't really matter unless you're dealing with older, well known and established character's/IPs.

e.g. James Bond, Peter Parker, Bruce wayne, or etc.

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pegusus123456
03/03/24 2:26:20 AM
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Prismsblade posted...
Thats called black/white washing, which doesn't really matter unless you're dealing with older, well known and established character's/IPs.

e.g. James Bond, Peter Parker, Bruce wayne, or etc.
You say this, but let them make Bruce a Jew, Nightwing a Romani, Red Hood ambiguously Asian, Red Robin bisexual, and Robin an Arab in the next movie.

People will lose their shit

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ArsGoetia
03/03/24 2:28:44 AM
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BloodMoon7 posted...
Well no that likely wouldn't happen if it's a Japanese game. The character isn't even white unless it's fantasy setting, the character is Japanese.


what
there's plenty of japanese media that stars people of non-japanese descent
you think snake is japanese? lol
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Umbreon
03/03/24 2:28:56 AM
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It's not a thing and anyone uniroically using that term isn't worth acknowledging.

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