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Humble_Novice
02/25/24 3:40:26 PM
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The Michigan primary is approaching very soon and we'll get to see a map of how much support Biden gets from the state. If he gets the vast majority of votes there, then the upcoming elections will be a lot smoother for him. If the Uncommitted vote closes in on him or beats him outright, he and the Democrats will have to work even harder to earn the trust of the voters.

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Humble_Novice
02/25/24 5:56:45 PM
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Bump.

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Humble_Novice
02/25/24 7:58:44 PM
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Humble_Novice posted...
Bump.

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SecretBase
02/25/24 8:07:09 PM
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There's no particular reason to think the incumbent won't continue to receive the vast majority of votes.

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archizzy
02/25/24 8:08:04 PM
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Bazooka Joe easily. The supposed boycott like most boycotts will fall on deaf ears and be a small and voiceless footnote. It won't apply any pressure at all and will be business as usual. And even if uncommitted performs better than expected they already have said they will 100% support him in the general so at the end of the day I don't see this mattering much.

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Kradek
02/25/24 8:18:02 PM
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Went with the second option. 90% is a pretty fucking lofty goal to achieve in a state with some of the most vocal criticism of him in regards to Gaza.

That doesn't mean I think it'll be anywhere close to a tie, however, so like 70-80 something percent for Biden with double digits for Uncommitted seems most rational.

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Giacomo_Hawkins
02/25/24 8:46:47 PM
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I'm hearing good things about this Dark Brandon fellow, though he's not on the ballot. How many of those Uncommitted voters do you think had him in mind as they cast their ballot?

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TerraSeeker
02/25/24 9:16:13 PM
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Joe Biden will win, of course. He just too popular.

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Humble_Novice
02/26/24 2:11:29 AM
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Up.

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streamofthesky
02/26/24 2:40:09 AM
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I think he'll at least get 75% of the vote w/o even trying.
The terminally online left sandbagged from the start and want to claim even a meager 10% is somehow a "win", but all rational people will see right thru that and laugh at them if it's actually that low.
If Biden does get around 90% in the single state most poised to protest-vote him for the Middle East situation, it will be a glorious moment showing that it's just an extremely vocal minority and he has strong support from his base going into the general election. Which would be lovely, Trump must lose and the media loves running w/ "momentum" BS and materializing narratives into realities by getting people to think a politician is "losing" or "on the upswing".
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GrandConjuraton
02/26/24 4:55:32 AM
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Obviously Marianne will get 99% of the vote!

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ultimate_reaver
02/26/24 4:57:02 AM
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There is zero chance it wont be overwhelmingly Biden

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Humble_Novice
02/26/24 1:09:19 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
I think he'll at least get 75% of the vote w/o even trying.
I believe so too. Democrats in Michigan know what's at stake, so they have to do this careful balancing act of turning out the votes while placating a portion of the population who stand by the Palestinian people.

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Humble_Novice
02/26/24 7:23:44 PM
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Up.

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Starks
02/26/24 7:38:19 PM
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I'd say the bar for a 5-alarm fire would be 20% Uncommitted with Phillips at 5%. Counterpoint: Nobody seemed to care about Phillips getting 20% in NH and theoretically winning delegates.

Michigan is interesting. You choose your ballot. Anyone can crossover.

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Humble_Novice
02/26/24 7:50:10 PM
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Starks posted...
I'd say the bar for a 5-alarm fire would be 20% Uncommitted with Phillips at 5%. Counterpoint: Nobody seemed to care about Phillips getting 20% in NH and theoretically winning delegates.

Michigan is interesting. You choose your ballot. Anyone can crossover.
I'm expecting the media to portray it as weakness on Biden's part since they have a vested interest in seeing Trump win.

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Starks
02/26/24 8:05:50 PM
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If Uncommitted is only in Nevada's "None of these" 6% territory, it's just a protest vote. One that can still cost you the general.

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Humble_Novice
02/26/24 8:37:05 PM
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Starks posted...
If Uncommitted is only in Nevada's "None of these" 6% territory, it's just a protest vote. One that can still cost you the general.
It only means Democrats are going to try even harder to turn out the vote in Michigan, and I highly doubt the local officials will want to give up their hard-earned trifecta very easily. On the plus side, the Michigan GOP being fragmented should make things a little easier.

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Humble_Novice
02/27/24 1:21:06 PM
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Today is the day, right?

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SecretBase
02/27/24 1:25:18 PM
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Starks posted...
Counterpoint: Nobody seemed to care about Phillips getting 20% in NH and theoretically winning delegates.

Because Biden was not actually on the ballot. Not everyone's willing to vote for someone who couldn't be assed to get on the ballot. Thus Dean's performance was artificially inflated. >_>

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Voidgolem
02/27/24 1:45:20 PM
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Has there literally ever been a case where the incumbent didn't win the primary (assuming they're on the ballot?)

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MaxEffingBemis
02/27/24 1:47:37 PM
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I expect uncommitted to get 5-10% which is basically their goal anyway

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Humble_Novice
02/27/24 5:09:01 PM
#24:


Up.

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Kradek
02/27/24 5:51:05 PM
#25:


Humble_Novice posted...
I'm expecting the media to portray it as weakness on Biden's part since they have a vested interest in seeing Trump win.

Yep. They're debasing themselves so greatly talking about Trump "crushing it" and "trouncing" Haley in South Carolina with his 59.8% v 40.2%, as I heard Kristen Welker describe it.

Dude even made a comment about how they've never been more unified lol.

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Humble_Novice
02/27/24 9:01:39 PM
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It's time.

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streamofthesky
02/27/24 10:03:53 PM
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As of right now, Biden has 80% of the vote, right around where I expected and pretty much in line w/ his performance in other primary states, all w/o even trying.

But the clearly microscopic terminally online left has a whopping 15%, so they'll claim it as some sort of victory, lulz
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Kradek
02/27/24 10:20:33 PM
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So pretty much what I predicted came to fruition

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streamofthesky
02/27/24 11:43:55 PM
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https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1762675163110224283?t=Ruk7MuwV7XTDuwis96LqRA&s=19

"Uncommitted" is down to 13.5% now, btw

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streamofthesky
02/28/24 1:14:11 AM
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God-slayer Biden now nearing 82% and "uncommitted" down to 12.8% w/ 80% of votes reported.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b8fb10ce.jpg
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Humble_Novice
02/28/24 1:16:56 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
God-slayer Biden now nearing 82% and "uncommitted" down to 12.8% w/ 80% of votes reported.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b8fb10ce.jpg
Make that 12.7% for the uncommitted.

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SecretBase
02/28/24 1:17:19 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
As of right now, Biden has 80% of the vote, right around where I expected and pretty much in line w/ his performance in other primary states, all w/o even trying.

But the clearly microscopic terminally online left has a whopping 15%, so they'll claim it as some sort of victory, lulz

The protestors explictly said beforehand that the goal was 10%.

Anyway if they're so microscopic be sure not to hold them accountable for any later election results.

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Humble_Novice
02/28/24 1:23:10 AM
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SecretBase posted...
The protestors explictly said beforehand that the goal was 10%.

Anyway if they're so microscopic be sure not to hold them accountable for any later election results.
Look whose mask is beginning to slip up.

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streamofthesky
02/28/24 1:25:26 AM
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SecretBase posted...
The protestors explictly said beforehand that the goal was 10%.

Anyway if they're so microscopic be sure not to hold them accountable for any later election results.

They can try to sand bag all they want, anyone w/ a brain knows they're full of shit.
Their true "goal" was to under-perform Obama's re-election primary uncommitted vote by 0.9%?
Come on now, you're better than that. Oh wait, I forgot who I was replying to... Do you still get a performance bonus from the GOP w/ results like tonight's for all your effort?

streamofthesky posted...
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1762675163110224283?t=Ruk7MuwV7XTDuwis96LqRA&s=19
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AngelsNAirwav3s
02/28/24 1:36:54 AM
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New Harvard-Harris poll out for February:

https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/HHP_Feb2024_KeyResults.pdf

63% of voters support Israel and their ground invasion of Gaza.

67% of voters think there should only be a cease fire if the hostages are returned and Hamas is removed from power.

68% of voters think Israel is trying to minimize civilian casualties in Gaza.

Trying to run against Israel is a losing strategy for Biden. And the results from the primary tonight show that more Americans support Israel than social media and online message boards would lead you to believe.

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Humble_Novice
02/28/24 2:14:21 AM
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This is what the terminally online Biden-hating left thinks about the primary.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6392bccd.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e61ea0e3.png
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9a95481e.png
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/eb0fb91b.png

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Dark_Arbron
02/28/24 2:44:59 AM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
New Harvard-Harris poll out for February:

https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/HHP_Feb2024_KeyResults.pdf

63% of voters support Israel and their ground invasion of Gaza.

67% of voters think there should only be a cease fire if the hostages are returned and Hamas is removed from power.

68% of voters think Israel is trying to minimize civilian casualties in Gaza.

Trying to run against Israel is a losing strategy for Biden. And the results from the primary tonight show that more Americans support Israel than social media and online message boards would lead you to believe.

As I said to a similar post (also by yourself) in another topic, no one ever accused large groups of people of knowing what the fuck theyre talking about, and with every day that passes Im starting to see modern democracy as a mistake.

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andel
02/28/24 2:50:48 AM
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biden is basically running even with where obama was in michigan. that campaign fell flat on its ass considering they are always in that same range against any incumbent.

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streamofthesky
02/28/24 2:56:26 AM
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The media is already trying to spin Biden's massive victory w/ over 80% of the votes as "damaging" or "worrying" for his campaign. Because of course they are.
I guess him "only" winning 70% in purple NH should've sent the campaign into panic mode, then. Yet oddly the media didn't think so back then.

Humble_Novice posted...
This is what the terminally online Biden-hating left thinks about the primary.
Showing their true colors, Exhibit A.
"It's just a statement! We just want to be heard! We're still going to vote blue in November!"
When things don't go their way (and the fact they clearly can see it didn't further proves the 10% "benchmark" was fucking laughable BS and they knew it), they're oh so gleeful at the thought of burning the Democratic party and the entire country down out of spite.
What a bunch of fucking losers.

Dark_Arbron posted...
As I said to a similar post (also by yourself) in another topic, no one ever accused large groups of people of knowing what the fuck theyre talking about, and with every day that passes Im starting to see modern democracy as a mistake.
And here we come to Exhibit B.
Remember Project 2025 and how Republicans decided if they can't win democratically then the problem isn't w/ them, but rather the problem is democracy (to paraphrase David Frum) and how everyone on these boards rightfully heaped scorn on them for it?
Now we'll see the far left also grow a dislike for democracy because they also couldn't get their way.

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SecretBase
02/28/24 9:42:43 AM
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Humble_Novice posted...

Look whose mask is beginning to slip up.

There is no mask. I don't like partisan major party people who constantly berate the grassroots and I think Biden and Trump are bad nominees. If you think the online left is so insignificant then stop bitching about it, plain and simple.

streamofthesky posted...
They can try to sand bag all they want, anyone w/ a brain knows they're full of shit.
Their true "goal" was to under-perform Obama's re-election primary uncommitted vote by 0.9%?

It's a different era. Obama's primary in 2008 was a dead heat the whole way. Biden's in 2020 was completely lopsided after Super Tuesday. Nowadays the party coalesces a lot earlier because there's a rush to unite against Trump.

In the modern era where people fear Trump 10% against the incumbent president and obvious nominee is impressive.

streamofthesky posted...
I guess him "only" winning 70% in purple NH should've sent the campaign into panic mode, then. Yet oddly the media didn't think so back then.

Because he wasn't on the fucking ballot. You're gonna underperform if you're not on the ballot. Now you're complaining that people aren't making a frivolous complaint against Biden.

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The_SF_Giant
02/28/24 10:22:05 AM
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Can't wait for Genocide Joe to lose and every annoying white lib Aaron Bushnells themselves.

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emblem-man
02/28/24 10:29:28 AM
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The_SF_Giant posted...
Can't wait for Genocide Joe to lose and every annoying white lib Aaron Bushnells themselves.
The fuck man

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Will_VIIII
02/28/24 10:30:17 AM
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The_SF_Giant posted...
Can't wait for Genocide Joe to lose and every annoying white lib Aaron Bushnells themselves.
Will you be quitting your job so that you stop funding his genocide then?

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Kradek
02/28/24 6:15:44 PM
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As I heard it put into perspective, Biden won MI in 2020 by 155k and Uncommitted came in at 100k.

They're not even enough to have prevented him from winning in 2020, so the loss of those voters doesn't seem like a very tangible threat, however because the reason they're so upset is a just one I hope the admin/campaign listens nonetheless and tries to regain it's Muslim voters.

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Humble_Novice
02/28/24 6:24:54 PM
#45:


Kradek posted...
As I heard it put into perspective, Biden won MI in 2020 by 155k and Uncommitted came in at 100k.

They're not even enough to have prevented him from winning in 2020, so the loss of those voters doesn't seem like a very tangible threat, however because the reason they're so upset is a just one I hope the admin/campaign listens nonetheless and tries to regain it's Muslim voters.
True. There's still time for Biden to rectify the situation and regain the trust of Muslim voters.

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