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Demyx
02/25/24 12:03:28 PM
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https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/02/19/lesbian-members-bar-that-excludes-trans-women-to-open-in-london/

The bar, named L Community, is set to open as a private members club so it can legally restrict access to cisgender women only, The Telegraph reports.

L Community has been set up by Jenny Watson, who was criticised in September 2023 for attempting to ban trans women from attending her lesbian speed-dating event in London. The event was eventually allowed to go ahead for cis women only.

Watson, 32, told The Telegraph that events she puts on that exclude trans women are often cancelled or refused by venues, and that her new members club could legally exclude trans women.

Watson added that her venue was being set up as a response to the decline of lesbian bars in the UK, voicing her opposition to the fact that many current lesbian bars and events welcome trans and non-binary visitors.

Following this news, the LGBTQ+ has been pushing back and voicing their opposition on social media.

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MaxEffingBemis
02/25/24 12:13:07 PM
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TERF island strikes again

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ai123
02/25/24 12:22:01 PM
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UK private members clubs are allowed to do all kinds of discriminatory shit.

It needs to be outlawed.

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archizzy
02/25/24 12:27:56 PM
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People will be mad but nothing will be done because when it comes to private member clubs you can restrict by anything you want. You tend to mostly see just men or women clubs and you also see age restrictions on a lot of clubs that keep the younger people out. But they can really restrict whatever arbitrary guideline they come up with.

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Foppe
02/25/24 1:04:25 PM
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A private bar means that they stay there.

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Frolex
02/25/24 1:44:49 PM
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Demyx posted...
L Community

fitting name

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havean776
02/25/24 1:53:54 PM
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Always strikes me as silly to turn against Trans people. Do they think this will earn them.points with the bigots who hat LGBT people?

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GrandConjuraton
02/25/24 1:56:41 PM
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MaxEffingBemis posted...
TERF island strikes again


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creativerealms
02/25/24 1:58:44 PM
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How would they know?

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Tenlaar
02/25/24 2:04:15 PM
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I don't have a problem with somebody having a club for trans people so I can't have a problem with somebody having a club for cis people.
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mybbqrules
02/25/24 5:25:22 PM
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TERF's for literally decades: "We want equality!"

TERF's now: "Owait."

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Agonized_rufous
02/25/24 5:27:42 PM
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No members for the members

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Punished_Blinx
02/25/24 5:35:37 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
I don't have a problem with somebody having a club for trans people so I can't have a problem with somebody having a club for cis people.

Where are the bars that only have trans people allowed in them?

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divot1338
02/25/24 5:37:45 PM
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How long do you think it would take for some dudes to try and get inside using this as a loophole?

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KaZooo
02/25/24 5:42:14 PM
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I assume there's then going to be a "L's only no T or S people " sign at the door

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Tenlaar
02/25/24 5:43:39 PM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
Where are the bars that only have trans people allowed in them?
It seems like you failed in reading what I posted.
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hockeybabe89
02/25/24 5:44:25 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
I don't have a problem with somebody having a club for trans people so I can't have a problem with somebody having a club for cis people.
Ah yes all the "no cis allowed" trans-friendly businesses and events.

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ai123
02/25/24 5:44:56 PM
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The posh men-only Savile Club in Mayfair will admit trans women.

You can guess why. (Hint: it's not because they are inclusive or supportive).

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Tenlaar
02/25/24 5:45:05 PM
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hockeybabe89 posted...
Ah yes all the "no cis allowed" trans-friendly businesses and events.
Do you not think that somebody should be allowed to make a club for trans and non-binary people?
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Thud
02/25/24 5:45:14 PM
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Curious to know how they plan on enforcing this

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hockeybabe89
02/25/24 5:45:18 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
It seems like you failed in reading what I posted.
You failed to read this club is deliberately exclusionary.

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hockeybabe89
02/25/24 5:46:33 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
Do you not think that somebody should be allowed to make a club for trans and non-binary people?
Sure, but they shouldn't discriminate. Gay bars aren't literally gay men only. You can manage a safe space without being discriminatory.

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Punished_Blinx
02/25/24 5:47:34 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
It seems like you failed in reading what I posted.

No.

I'm asking for these examples that you are drawing this comparison against.

In my experience bars and clubs focused on LGBT clientele are still inclusive to straight people.

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Funkydog
02/25/24 5:47:48 PM
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Most lgbtq+ bars and events I've been to in the UK let anyone go.

Just more idiocy by moronic terfs

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ArsGoetia
02/25/24 5:51:02 PM
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i'm bi and trans and dont really have a problem with this tbh
there's nothing wrong with being a cis woman only attracted to other cis women
and if i were looking to date, and a bunch of people who wouldn't date me and probably dont like me to begin with are all gathered at a place i cant even go to
is that not a win for me?
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Tenlaar
02/25/24 5:51:38 PM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
I'm asking for these examples that you are drawing this comparison against.
Well there's your problem, I didn't compare anything to any examples.
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Punished_Blinx
02/25/24 6:03:16 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
Well there's your problem, I didn't compare anything to any examples.

So you think it's fair for 99% of a social group to exclude the 1% because that 1% can also exclude them back? Even if they do not want to?

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Tenlaar
02/25/24 6:06:35 PM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
So you think it's fair for 99% of a social group to exclude the 1% because that 1% can also exclude them back? Even if they do not want to?
I think that people should be able to have social groups for specific demographic and also that it's not right to only grant that ability to certain demographics and not others.
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ManicPlumber77
02/25/24 6:08:02 PM
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Demyx posted...
https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/02/19/lesbian-members-bar-that-excludes-trans-women-to-open-in-london/

Following this news, people in the LGBTQ+ community have been pushing back and voicing their opposition on social media.

Fixed that for you. We're not some kind of sinister organization pulling strings behind the shadows. If we were, do you think we'd care about this?

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GranAures
02/25/24 6:10:10 PM
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ManicPlumber77 posted...
Fixed that for you. We're not some kind of sinister organization pulling strings behind the shadows. If we were, do you think we'd care about this?
An LGBTQ+ mafia like some folks act like exists would actually be great.

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TeaMilk
02/25/24 6:12:54 PM
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ArsGoetia posted...
i'm bi and trans and dont really have a problem with this tbh
there's nothing wrong with being a cis woman only attracted to other cis women
and if i were looking to date, and a bunch of people who wouldn't date me and probably dont like me to begin with are all gathered at a place i cant even go to
is that not a win for me?
The only topic I remember you from is where you were shitting on independent artists for being against AI, while claiming to be an independent artist yourself

Somehow I don't think you're a real person

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Vyrulisse
02/25/24 6:14:48 PM
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This is a pretty deep and confusing issue that is going to take a lot of time to weave through and address if you think beyond the surface level a little bit. It will take time for attitudes to shift and they are slowly.

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archizzy
02/25/24 6:17:38 PM
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TeaMilk posted...
The only topic I remember you from is where you were shitting on independent artists for being against AI, while claiming to be an independent artist yourself

Somehow I don't think you're a real person

Definitely real. Has been involved in a lot of topics, has posted in the selfie topic, is trans, and was very public recently about their divorce. Definitely a legit poster.

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ArsGoetia
02/25/24 6:19:48 PM
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TeaMilk posted...
The only topic I remember you from is where you were shitting on independent artists for being against AI, while claiming to be an independent artist yourself

Somehow I don't think you're a real person


bite me lol
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ironman2009
02/25/24 6:23:47 PM
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pwn'd that n00b

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spikethedevil
02/26/24 8:04:02 AM
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Holy shit the mods finally suspended him lol.

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ScytheCarnage
02/26/24 11:42:04 AM
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I'm all for trans rights but this place can do whatever it wants also. They don't have to let everyone in. Does it align morally with me? No but it's their business. They can do what they want.
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OobyDooby
02/26/24 11:48:58 AM
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ai123 posted...
The posh men-only Savile Club in Mayfair will admit trans women.

You can guess why. (Hint: it's not because they are inclusive or supportive).

Is it so they can suck their dicks? I bet it's so they can suck their dicks.

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lydiaquayle
03/01/24 5:54:06 AM
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I am fully supportive of LGBTQ+

Sexuality =/= Gender

Lesbianism is about sexuality.
Transgender is about gender roles.

Let lesbians decide what they want when it comes to sexuality IN A PRIVATE CLUB.

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Lillymon
03/01/24 5:56:27 AM
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Thud posted...
Curious to know how they plan on enforcing this
Since it's a members-only club I imagine they plan on taking a similar approach to Ovarit (read: TERF Reddit) where they start with a small group of known TERFs and the only others who are allowed to join are those invited by existing members.

So they call it a lesbian bar but in reality it's going to be 95% bigoted middle class straight white cis women. Just another place for them to drink some prosecco and laugh at how poor the transes are.

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LSGW_Zephyra
03/01/24 6:10:28 AM
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It's funny how the people I block always have this tendency to get themselves suspended over and over again.

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LSGW_Zephyra
03/01/24 6:12:37 AM
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lydiaquayle posted...
I am fully supportive of LGBTQ+

Sexuality =/= Gender

Lesbianism is about sexuality.
Transgender is about gender roles.

Let lesbians decide what they want when it comes to sexuality IN A PRIVATE CLUB.

What is this take even trying to say?

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Zwijn
03/01/24 6:16:13 AM
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lydiaquayle posted...
I am fully supportive of LGBTQ+

Sexuality =/= Gender

Lesbianism is about sexuality.
Transgender is about gender roles.

Let lesbians decide what they want when it comes to sexuality IN A PRIVATE CLUB.
This might blow your mind, but there are lesbian transwomen.
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Rotterdammerung
03/01/24 6:16:46 AM
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Itll be interesting to see how many cis women end up being excluded because of the We CaN AlWaYS TeLL brigade

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