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ZannoL
02/24/24 11:45:14 AM
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https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/x-men-fans-freaking-115137154.html

Marvels Voices: Pride is releasing a new one-shot comic, X-Men: The Wedding Special #1, and fans are finally getting to see the wedding of one of the most famous queer couples in comics Mystique and Destiny.

In the comics, Mystique and Destiny have been together for over a hundred years, and now, we finally get to see when they secretly married and a new renewal of those vows. This marks the first woman-to-woman wedding in Marvel Comics history!

While the issue focuses on the love between Mystique and Destiny, a lot of fans online have been distracted by a certain muscular hunk and a cute twink that grace one of the issues variant covers.

In this cover, drawn and colored by Russell Dauterman, many queer Marvel characters like America Chavez, Loki, Black Cat, Nico and Karolina from The Runaways, Spider-Gwen, and Web-Weaver stand in front of a colorful background.

In the middle of these characters is a smugly smiling Hercules with his arm around a pleasantly pleased Iceman. And just like that the internet has a new favorite Marvel couple.

Of course, fans across social media are freaking out about this new pair. At first, fans were just loving the couple, but the love quickly turned into an argument over who would be the top and who would be the bottom.

So, what do you think? Who's the bottom here?

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evilpresident
02/24/24 11:47:44 AM
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Crimsoness
02/24/24 11:48:12 AM
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Isn't Mystique a villain?

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ZannoL
02/24/24 11:51:30 AM
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evilpresident posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a75f1647.jpg
lol

Crimsoness posted...
Isn't Mystique a villain?
I would like to know as well.

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blazer4lyfe
02/24/24 11:55:29 AM
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ZannoL posted...
lol

I would like to know as well.
Depends on which arc you are reading. Technically the X-Men are going to war with humans. So who is the good guy?

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Zikten
02/24/24 11:57:24 AM
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Obviously Hercules is the top and Iceman is the bottom. The other way makes no god damn sense
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Foppe
02/24/24 11:57:45 AM
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Crimsoness posted...
Isn't Mystique a villain?
This is Marvel, they switch sides all the time.

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cjsdowg
02/24/24 11:59:46 AM
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When did Spider-Gwen become queer ? Also I hate Mystique the person. The character is already. But they need to keep reminding people she is a pretty horrible person. And since he is also a father would that make her a top. Not sure how that works.

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Raikuro
02/24/24 12:01:15 PM
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Zikten posted...
Obviously Hercules is the top and Iceman is the bottom. The other way makes no god damn sense
Muscle bottoms are far more common than you think
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Crimsoness
02/24/24 12:03:55 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
When did Spider-Gwen become queer ? Also I hate Mystique the person. The character is already. But they need to keep reminding people she is a pretty horrible person. And since he is also a father would that make her a top. Not sure how that works.
Yeah it's pretty cheap to make a shapeshifter their prominent lesbian character

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Kai_Laguna
02/24/24 12:09:43 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
Yeah it's pretty cheap to make a shapeshifter their prominent lesbian character
Yea, it's weird. At least in the 90s cartoon sequel they are going more for the obvious genderfluid angle with Morph.
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Mistere_Man
02/24/24 12:13:07 PM
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What does it mean they have been together for a century? I dont remember this destiny character at all, but I wasnt that into the comics.

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Kai_Laguna
02/24/24 12:14:15 PM
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Mistere_Man posted...
What does it mean they have been together for a century? I dont remember this destiny character at all, but I wasnt that into the comics.
They mean in universe.
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hyperskate65
02/24/24 12:14:37 PM
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Mystique can turn into anyone. Destiny is absolutely the bottom.

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Drunk_Cobra
02/24/24 12:15:06 PM
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I thought Destiny was supposed to be an old woman.

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cjsdowg
02/24/24 12:15:40 PM
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Kai_Laguna posted...
Yea, it's weird. At least in the 90s cartoon sequel they are going more for the obvious genderfluid angle with Morph.

Since I am not in the community I cannot speak on as an authority, so if I am wrong do forgive me. But I seems messed up the people who have this one power just happen to the LGBT+. And don't give me oh because they can change into different people this happens. Well then, should that take old in everything aspect of a person, not just gender and sex stuff .

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Mistere_Man
02/24/24 12:15:54 PM
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Kai_Laguna posted...
They mean in universe.

So they are both over 100 in story? They look great for their age.

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Kai_Laguna
02/24/24 12:22:32 PM
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Mistere_Man posted...
So they are both over 100 in story? They look great for their age.
Technically Destiny has been dead for a few in universe decades with Mystique bringing her back to life during the current weird immortal racial supremacist sex cult arc the x men have been going through recently.
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Raikuro
02/24/24 12:25:04 PM
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Mystique can naturally live very long, but Destiny was an old woman before she was killed by a mind controlled Legion right before the big 90s reboot. She was revived more recently with Krakoa resurrection protocols using Cerebro backup data, obviously at a more prime age.

Destiny was in X-Men Evolution if you've seen that. She was the blind woman taking care of Rogue.
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Crimsoness
02/24/24 12:25:19 PM
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Mistere_Man posted...
So they are both over 100 in story? They look great for their age.
I don't know much about comics but I'd assume a shapeshifter is whatever age they wanna be

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Mistere_Man
02/24/24 12:26:46 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
I don't know much about comics but I'd assume a shapeshifter is whatever age they wanna be

Fair point.

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nocturnal_traveler
02/24/24 12:26:58 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
When did Spider-Gwen become queer ?
I believe that's Gwenpool.

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ZannoL
02/24/24 12:28:04 PM
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Its definitely annoying how they went with Mystique.

Why couldnt Marvel have chosen Karolina and Niko from The Runaways instead?

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ZannoL
02/24/24 12:32:31 PM
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@asherlee10 Do you read comics?
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SpawnShadow
02/24/24 12:34:07 PM
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Mistere_Man posted...
So they are both over 100 in story? They look great for their age.
Not only that, but to give you a hint as to how old they both really are, Destiny's real name of "Irene Adler" isn't just a reference to the original Sherlock Holmes stories (where she was one of the only people to ever outsmart Holmes), but in the Marvel Universe, she was the very same character. Mystique was also known to have used Sherlock's identity, but it's unclear whether there was a real Sherlock Holmes in-universe that she was impersonating, or if she made up the identity herself.
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FortuneCookie
02/24/24 12:37:57 PM
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Mistique is lesbian now? I thought she was bi/pan.
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nocturnal_traveler
02/24/24 12:40:11 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
Mistique is lesbian now? I thought she was bi/pan.
She is, but Marvel likes to score brownie points every now and then, despite having already existing lesbian characters.

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Ivynn
02/24/24 12:41:32 PM
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Foppe posted...
This is Marvel, they switch sides all the time.

Mystique....switch sides....there's a joke in there somewhere >_>

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Raikuro
02/24/24 1:13:28 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
Mistique is lesbian now? I thought she was bi/pan.
The wedding is lesbian since both participants are female. It's not a description of each individual person's preferences. Like if a male bisexual and female bisexual get married it's still a straight wedding.
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nocturnal_traveler
02/24/24 1:17:35 PM
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Raikuro posted...
The wedding is lesbian since both participants are female. It's not a description of each individual person's preferences. Like if a male bisexual and female bisexual get married it's still a straight wedding.
But it kinda muddies the representation. Hets, gays, and lesbians get represented, while bisexuals and pansexuals get overshadowed.

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Tenlaar
02/24/24 1:19:13 PM
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Raikuro posted...
Like if a male bisexual and female bisexual get married it's still a straight wedding.
"A wedding where neither participant is straight is still a straight wedding" is an...odd take.
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Raikuro
02/24/24 1:24:20 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
"A wedding where neither participant is straight is still a straight wedding" is an...odd take.
... it's not even a take. Just how words work.
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Tenlaar
02/24/24 1:25:15 PM
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Raikuro posted...
... it's not even a take. Just how words work.
Not straight + not straight = straight is how words work?
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firedoom666
02/24/24 1:29:56 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
When did Spider-Gwen become queer?

I think that is a mistake in the article. The art TC posted shows Gwenpool who is asexual. I assume whoever wrote the article had a slip up on the name


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DrizztLink
02/24/24 1:32:42 PM
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firedoom666 posted...
I think that is a mistake in the article. The art TC posted shows Gwenpool who is asexual. I assume whoever wrote the article had a slip up on the name
Not necessarily.

Queer nowadays is used as an umbrella term, so any orientation or identity that isn't straight and cis can and do use it, and Ace is indeed an orientation.

I know some trans people who identify first and foremost as queer.

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firedoom666
02/24/24 1:40:31 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Not necessarily.

Queer nowadays is used as an umbrella term, so any orientation or identity that isn't straight and cis can and do use it, and Ace is indeed an orientation.

I know some trans people who identify first and foremost as queer.
tc posted the art the article referenced, and Spider Gwen is 100% not in it.

It does not mean Spider Gwen is not queer but there is also no evidence either way.

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02/24/24 2:01:43 PM
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Roachmeat
02/24/24 2:07:12 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
Isn't Mystique a villain?

Early comic designs had a tiny skull at the very top of her head, so yeah, definitely not a friend.
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lolife67
02/24/24 2:11:41 PM
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Raikuro posted...
... it's not even a take. Just how words work.
That's not at all how words work.
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DrizztLink
02/24/24 2:12:37 PM
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firedoom666 posted...
tc posted the art the article referenced, and Spider Gwen is 100% not in it.
Could have meant Gwenpool.

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DrizztLink
02/24/24 2:21:03 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

"Heterosexual wedding" might still be accurate but by and large it's fairly meaningless to bring up in the first place.

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Compsognathus
02/24/24 2:26:44 PM
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It's weird that so many superheroes went to the wedding of a remorseless assassin who has literally killed some of their friends.

If I was Marvel I would probably have chosen a different lesbian couple for their big first lesbian wedding.

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ZannoL
02/24/24 2:27:17 PM
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Compsognathus posted...
It's weird that so many superheroes went to the wedding of a remorseless assassin who has literally killed some of their friends.

If I was Marvel I would probably have chosen a different lesbian couple for their big first lesbian wedding.
Right?
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lolife67
02/24/24 2:29:27 PM
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Compsognathus posted...
It's weird that so many superheroes went to the wedding of a remorseless assassin who has literally killed some of their friends.

If I was Marvel I would probably have chosen a different lesbian couple for their big first lesbian wedding.
Apocalypse was a prominent member of the X-Men recently. They have pretty low standards these days.
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AngelsNAirwav3s
02/24/24 2:34:07 PM
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I thought they retconned that whole Jean Grey using her telepathic powers to force Ice Man to be gay arc because it was so poorly received?

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DrizztLink
02/24/24 2:36:47 PM
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lolife67 posted...
Apocalypse was a prominent member of the X-Men recently. They have pretty low standards these days.
It does lend a certain something to their negotiating style.

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Foppe
02/24/24 3:09:31 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
I thought they retconned that whole Jean Grey using her telepathic powers to force Ice Man to be gay arc because it was so poorly received?
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/0d470272.jpg

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DrizztLink
02/24/24 3:10:10 PM
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Foppe posted...
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