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Pikachuchupika 02/20/24 11:57:02 AM #1:	Or is being dead different from non-existence before birth? <cite>Pikachuchupika posted [p:978944167] in Is not bei... [t:80701363]...</cite> <quote>Or is being dead different from non-existence before birth?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
C_Pain 02/20/24 11:57:35 AM #2:	Obviously not. One has a soul and the other doesn't. :) --- How quaint. <cite>C_Pain posted [p:978944176] in Is not bei... [t:80701363]...</cite> <quote>Obviously not. One has a soul and the other doesn't. :) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pikachuchupika 02/20/24 11:59:43 AM #3:	C_Pain posted... Obviously not. One has a soul and the other doesn't. :) What is a soul? <cite>Pikachuchupika posted [p:978944213] in Is not bei... [t:80701363]...</cite> <quote>C_Pain posted... </cite><quote>Obviously not. One has a soul and the other doesn't. :)</quote>What is a soul?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pazzy 02/20/24 12:01:33 PM #4:	No. Because a person that is dead may have affected other people. One that is not born did not. <cite>pazzy posted [p:978944241] in Is not bei... [t:80701363]...</cite> <quote>No. Because a person that is dead may have affected other people. One that is not born did not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
C_Pain 02/20/24 12:04:01 PM #5:	Pikachuchupika posted... What is a soul? The oreo creme center --- How quaint. <cite>C_Pain posted [p:978944284] in Is not bei... [t:80701363]...</cite> <quote>Pikachuchupika posted... </cite><quote>What is a soul?</quote>The oreo creme center </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pikachuchupika 02/20/24 12:04:12 PM #6:	pazzy posted... No. Because a person that is dead may have affected other people. One that is not born did not. You could argue the people that haven't existed are affecting people today by not existing. <cite>Pikachuchupika posted [p:978944286] in Is not bei... [t:80701363]...</cite> <quote>pazzy posted... </cite><quote>No. Because a person that is dead may have affected other people. One that is not born did not.</quote>You could argue the people that haven't existed are affecting people today by not existing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crimsoness 02/20/24 12:05:46 PM #7:	No one knows TC, if you can let us know when you die --- She/her Dynamite with a laser beam <cite>Crimsoness posted [p:978944313] in Is not bei... [t:80701363]...</cite> <quote>No one knows TC, if you can let us know when you die </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagr_68 02/20/24 12:06:23 PM #8:	Yeah it was a fucked up movie called this. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d86152a3.jpg --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 <cite>Jagr_68 posted [p:978944326] in Is not bei... [t:80701363]...</cite> <quote>Yeah it was a fucked up movie called this.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d86152a3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 02/20/24 12:07:11 PM #9:	By definition, something needs to be alive before it can die. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:978944341] in Is not bei... [t:80701363]...</cite> <quote>By definition, something needs to be alive before it can die. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SiO4 02/20/24 12:08:26 PM #10:	IDK, Ask an Embryo the next time you have the chance. --- "Whatever the reason you're on Mars, I'm glad you're there, and I wish I was with you." ~Carl Sagan. Currently playing: Flight Simulator X.~PC <cite>SiO4 posted [p:978944372] in Is not bei... [t:80701363]...</cite> <quote>IDK, Ask an Embryo the next time you have the chance. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pikachuchupika 02/20/24 12:27:43 PM #11:	Guide posted... By definition, something needs to be alive before it can die. Yes, but what is non-existence? Some people say you don't exist until you're born. But then you don't exist when you die either. However, we did exist at one point. The law of conservation states that you cannot create or destroy energy. This would suggest that we have all existed in one form or another. We're all just atoms that gained sentience. Perhaps atoms are sentience. <cite>Pikachuchupika posted [p:978944674] in Is not bei... [t:80701363]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite><quote>By definition, something needs to be alive before it can die.</quote>Yes, but what is non-existence? Some people say you don't exist until you're born. But then you don't exist when you die either. However, we did exist at one point. The law of conservation states that you cannot create or destroy energy. This would suggest that we have all existed in one form or another. We're all just atoms that gained sentience. Perhaps atoms are sentience.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Naysaspace 02/20/24 12:29:37 PM #13:	pazzy posted... No. Because a person that is dead may have affected other people. One that is not born did not. Ummmmmmm The mother? --- leafs rule <cite>Naysaspace posted [p:978944705] in Is not bei... [t:80701363]...</cite> <quote>pazzy posted... </cite><quote>No. Because a person that is dead may have affected other people. One that is not born did not.</quote>UmmmmmmmThe mother? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 02/20/24 12:29:54 PM #14:	No. What you do in this life matters. There are countless examples of people who are dead that had they never been born, history would be radically different. In fact the argument can be made that the rule applies to everyone who ever lived. You matter to someone. What you do echoes in the people around you. If you are never born, you dont have that impact. Thats why the phrase I wish you had never been born makes sense. --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:978944715] in Is not bei... [t:80701363]...</cite> <quote>No. What you do in this life matters. There are countless examples of people who are dead that had they never been born, history would be radically different. In fact the argument can be made that the rule applies to everyone who ever lived. You matter to someone. What you do echoes in the people around you.If you are never born, you dont have that impact. Thats why the phrase I wish you had never been born makes sense. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 02/20/24 12:32:47 PM #15:	Pikachuchupika posted... Yes, but what is non-existence? Some people say you don't exist until you're born. But then you don't exist when you die either. However, we did exist at one point. The law of conservation states that you cannot create or destroy energy. This would suggest that we have all existed in one form or another. We're all just atoms that gained sentience. Perhaps atoms are sentience. I wouldn't ascribe the configuration of our brains to atoms, in the same way that I wouldn't call a bunch of individual legos a sculpture. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:978944773] in Is not bei... [t:80701363]...</cite> <quote>Pikachuchupika posted... </cite><quote>Yes, but what is non-existence? Some people say you don't exist until you're born. But then you don't exist when you die either. However, we did exist at one point. The law of conservation states that you cannot create or destroy energy. This would suggest that we have all existed in one form or another. We're all just atoms that gained sentience. Perhaps atoms are sentience.</quote>I wouldn't ascribe the configuration of our brains to atoms, in the same way that I wouldn't call a bunch of individual legos a sculpture. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pazzy 02/20/24 1:09:01 PM #16:	Naysaspace posted... Ummmmmmm The mother? The state of non existence would mean that you aren't even conceived at all. So no. You wouldn't affect the mother. <cite>pazzy posted [p:978945328] in Is not bei... [t:80701363]...</cite> <quote>Naysaspace posted... </cite><quote>UmmmmmmmThe mother?</quote>The state of non existence would mean that you aren't even conceived at all. So no. You wouldn't affect the mother. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revelation34 02/21/24 12:01:25 AM #18:	Naysaspace posted... Ummmmmmm The mother? If it died in the womb then by definition there is no mother. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:978955774] in Is not bei... [t:80701363]...</cite> <quote>Naysaspace posted...</cite><quote>UmmmmmmmThe mother?</quote>If it died in the womb then by definition there is no mother. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OriginalPlain2 02/21/24 12:26:30 AM #19:	Guide posted... By definition, something needs to be alive before it can die. Also by definition the stuff needed for reproduction is alive according to science --- 41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? <cite>OriginalPlain2 posted [p:978956077] in Is not bei... [t:80701363]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite><quote>By definition, something needs to be alive before it can die.</quote>Also by definition the stuff needed for reproduction is alive according to science </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VampireCoyote 02/21/24 12:30:12 AM #20:	No. Its different. --- Go eat a pancake <cite>VampireCoyote posted [p:978956118] in Is not bei... [t:80701363]...</cite> <quote>No. Its different. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PurpleOutsider 02/21/24 12:30:37 AM #21:	https://youtu.be/YoIMqgxs1mI?si=7snYYkLbeXZx32vQ Like 30 seconds into this, Trevor says not being alive yet means you're dead. --- Your knowledge of scientific biological transmogrification is only outmatched by your zest for kung-fu treachery! <cite>PurpleOutsider posted [p:978956120] in Is not bei... [t:80701363]...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/YoIMqgxs1mI?si=7snYYkLbeXZx32vQLike 30 seconds into this, Trevor says not being alive yet means you're dead. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TerraSeeker 02/21/24 4:04:57 AM #22:	There are plenty of unborn babies that have died. --- Your words are as empty as your soul <cite>TerraSeeker posted [p:978957543] in Is not bei... [t:80701363]...</cite> <quote>There are plenty of unborn babies that have died. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 02/21/24 4:45:13 AM #23:	Pikachuchupika posted... What is a soul? 21 grams of data --- See profile pic <cite>Irony posted [p:978957755] in Is not bei... [t:80701363]...</cite> <quote>Pikachuchupika posted... </cite><quote>What is a soul?</quote>21 grams of data </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ratchetrockon 02/21/24 7:18:11 AM #24:	yes it's the same it's why i say i wasn't alive in certain years (pre birthyear) also wtf i thought this type of thinking was common! i am surprised by this thread --- I'm a Taurus. Currently playing: Gabriel Knight 1 (PC) & DMC3:SE Ubisoft Port (PC) He/Him <cite>Ratchetrockon posted [p:978958639] in Is not bei... [t:80701363]...</cite> <quote>yes it's the sameit's why i say i wasn't alive in certain years (pre birthyear) also wtf i thought this type of thinking was common! i am surprised by this thread </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mustachedmystic 02/21/24 7:24:27 AM #25:	Putting aside da whole when does life begin thing. Dead implies having lived. --- Getting high and playing video games is the best! I swear to ducking God! <cite>mustachedmystic posted [p:978958692] in Is not bei... [t:80701363]...</cite> <quote>Putting aside da whole when does life begin thing. Dead implies having lived. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PraxagoraKassan 02/21/24 10:09:47 AM #27:	I don't think non existence is real and also something that dies had being (well, life maybe) at one point. Not being born is more of a feature of who is reproducing, but that sounds evil. --- triple down <cite>PraxagoraKassan posted [p:978961001] in Is not bei... [t:80701363]...</cite> <quote>I don't think non existence is real and also something that dies had being (well, life maybe) at one point. Not being born is more of a feature of who is reproducing, but that sounds evil. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpawnShadow 02/21/24 10:37:11 AM #28:	No. Something that isn't born yet and something that's dead are both not alive, but to specifically be dead, it has to have previously lived, at least a little bit. <cite>SpawnShadow posted [p:978961627] in Is not bei... [t:80701363]...</cite> <quote>No. Something that isn't born yet and something that's dead are both not alive, but to specifically be dead, it has to have previously lived, at least a little bit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pikachuchupika 02/21/24 11:03:52 AM #29:	Maybe it's the opposite. Being alive is not existing, while not existing is being alive. <cite>Pikachuchupika posted [p:978962209] in Is not bei... [t:80701363]...</cite> <quote>Maybe it's the opposite. Being alive is not existing, while not existing is being alive. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Torgo 02/21/24 11:06:59 AM #32:	Nobody knows. Since we can't communicate with pre and post life humans, and there is no recollection... I think a safe assumption is that it's just nothingness and oblivion in either case, but I have no way to claim this as absolute fact. --- Moderated for telling people not to commit illegal acts of assault and murder.09/2/23 Also moderated for not responding to obvious bait. - 10/03/23 <cite>Torgo posted [p:978962278] in Is not bei... [t:80701363]...</cite> <quote>Nobody knows.Since we can't communicate with pre and post life humans, and there is no recollection... I think a safe assumption is that it's just nothingness and oblivion in either case, but I have no way to claim this as absolute fact. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pikachuchupika 02/21/24 11:25:15 AM #33:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Forget about it. It's just nonsense lol <cite>Pikachuchupika posted [p:978962659] in Is not bei... [t:80701363]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Forget about it. It's just nonsense lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 02/22/24 7:16:15 AM #34:	TerraSeeker posted... There are plenty of unborn babies that have died. No there hasn't because an unborn baby doesn't exist. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:978977199] in Is not bei... [t:80701363]...</cite> <quote>TerraSeeker posted...</cite><quote>There are plenty of unborn babies that have died.</quote>No there hasn't because an unborn baby doesn't exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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