Current Events > Better Joker: Heath Ledger or Joaquin Phoenix?

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Cocytus
02/20/24 11:55:31 AM
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Joaquin Phoenix

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MarcoRubio
02/20/24 11:56:07 AM
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LOL this isn't even a contest

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Cocytus
02/20/24 12:14:04 PM
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MarcoRubio posted...
LOL this isn't even a contest
How so?

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masterpug53
02/20/24 12:18:38 PM
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Cocytus posted...
How so?

Well, I still haven't gotten my lazy ass around to seeing Joker, but Heath Ledger's take on the character singlehandedly elevated what would have otherwise been a good but heavily flawed movie into permanent 'best movie ever' status for millions of nerds and cinephiles worldwide. So Phoenix has got his work cut out for him in a head-to-head matchup.

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Vyrulisse
02/20/24 12:19:37 PM
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Joaquin for me.
Ledger was good but not the greatest ever like a lot of people claim. Nicholson was better than Ledger in my opinion.

The original question is kinda unfair as we didn't get to see much of Joaquin a The Joker, we got a taste here and there.

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Cocytus
02/20/24 12:20:10 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Joaquin for me.
Ledger was good but not the greatest ever like a lot of people claim. Nicholson was better than Ledger in my opinion.
Yeah I think so too

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Sephiroth_C_Ryu
02/20/24 12:20:10 PM
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If you want a contest, bring Mark Hamil into it.


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Garabandal
02/20/24 12:23:30 PM
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Other: Jared Leto

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Vyrulisse
02/20/24 12:24:32 PM
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Garabandal posted...
Other: Jared Leto
His scene in the Snyder Cut showed me he could be a pretty decent Joker with the proper material to work with.

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K181
02/20/24 12:25:08 PM
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https://youtu.be/SrJhGi1vUjo?si=5MYig4ozSFhkj7-H

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GunmaN1905
02/20/24 12:26:26 PM
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Mark Hamill.
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pauIie
02/20/24 12:34:13 PM
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ledger is the standard now. his performance had studios horny to get the character back on screen to recapture it.
masterpug53 posted...
Well, I still haven't gotten my lazy ass around to seeing Joker, but Heath Ledger's take on the character singlehandedly elevated what would have otherwise been a good but heavily flawed movie into permanent 'best movie ever' status for millions of nerds and cinephiles worldwide. So Phoenix has got his work cut out for him in a head-to-head matchup.
this. dark knight is an otherwise okay but far from an all time great (not for me but for many) without heath ledger's joker.

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mercurydude
02/20/24 12:47:30 PM
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Heath, and Joaquin Phoenix himself would probably tell you the same. When he won the SAG award for best actor, he said it was because he was standing on Heath's shoulders and called him his favorite actor.

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JimmyFraska
02/20/24 12:48:37 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Joaquin for me.
Ledger was good but not the greatest ever like a lot of people claim. Nicholson was better than Ledger in my opinion.

The original question is kinda unfair as we didn't get to see much of Joaquin a The Joker, we got a taste here and there.
If you count screen time, we almost certainly got more of Joaquin as Joker than we did Heath. And I understand what you're saying, he didn't really become Joker till the end. But yeah, even then, we got more Joaquin joker.

As for Nicholson, and really Joaquin as well, Heath was playing a totally different style of Joker. Nicholson played a more classical, James Cagney 30s gangster style Joker.

Heath's, per what he and Nolan created, was a punk-anarcho-terrorist Joker. It was a completely fresh and energetic take on the character.

And yeah, out of Nolan's Batman movies, TDK is my least favorite otherwise because I find it visually boring compared to BB and TDKR which are visually stunning, and the plot drags for like 10 minutes in the middle, which doesn't seem like much once it picks up but when you're in it it feels like forever.
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Bishop_Hastur
02/20/24 1:03:10 PM
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All y'all are wrong, cause Cesar Romero is, was, and always will be, the best Joker.

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Vyrulisse
02/20/24 1:18:57 PM
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Bishop_Hastur posted...
All y'all are wrong, cause Cesar Romero is, was, and always will be, the best Joker.
He had the best laugh that's for sure.

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masterbarf
02/20/24 1:56:52 PM
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Cocytus posted...
Joaquin Phoenix


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AdrianBeterson
02/20/24 1:58:26 PM
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Joaquin was Joker for like 5 minutes. Weve only really seen him as Arthur so far.

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mercurydude
02/20/24 2:01:45 PM
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Bishop_Hastur posted...
All y'all are wrong, cause Cesar Romero is, was, and always will be, the best Joker.

Well, yes, because he got to hang out with Eartha Kitt.

Well, that, and he's the only one who had the nerve to keep a mustache while being Joker.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5137a724.jpg

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