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02/19/24 10:01:27 PM
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SecretBase
02/19/24 11:39:37 PM
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Instead of flushing votes down the toilet for write-ins and "Uncommitted" in the uncompetitive Dem. primary people could be pulling the Trump weeds out from the root by voting Haley.

Yet only 10% of the GOP is doing this. Surely many millions of Americans don't want Trump as president. Yet the effort to deny him the nomination is absolutely piss poor.

Haley is terrible, but you can get rid of her by voting Dem. in the general. And she'll actually concede the loss. Even letting Trump get to the general at all should be considered too dangerous.

It's basically our civic duty to vote Haley and dump Trump for good. Yet so many people are failing to meet this obligation. Hmm.

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Trumble
02/19/24 11:41:08 PM
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I mean, literally anyone is better than Trump...

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GrandConjuraton
02/19/24 11:42:55 PM
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They don't want a woman as president.

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Solar_Crimson
02/19/24 11:50:53 PM
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GrandConjuraton posted...
They don't want a woman as president.


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Aloc
02/19/24 11:52:27 PM
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Oh shit. A gaslight topic.


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Aloc
02/19/24 11:54:17 PM
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GrandConjuraton posted...
They don't want a woman as president.
Now did the person who wrote this and everyone who quoted it actually read what TC wrote or are they just nikki haley shills or just flat out..

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SecretBase
02/19/24 11:58:00 PM
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Aloc posted...

Now did the person who wrote this and everyone who quoted it actually read what TC wrote or are they just nikki haley shills or just flat out..

They're basically saying the only people who can bear to register Republican and vote in their primary are mostly sexist.

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Aloc
02/19/24 11:58:52 PM
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Yeah sure.

Tc said democrats should vote for haley.

We all know what you're getting at.

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Heineken14
02/20/24 12:00:40 AM
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What a weird topic....

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Aloc
02/20/24 12:04:49 AM
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Yeah sure.

You guys just want president haley.

This board has more totally not right wingers than than it claims.

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Heineken14
02/20/24 12:05:17 AM
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Aloc posted...
Yeah sure.

You guys just want president haley.

This board has more totally not right wingers than than it claims.

Is this that "value" you bring?

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Aloc
02/20/24 12:06:27 AM
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Heineken14 posted...
Is this that "value" you bring?
334 posts.

8000+ karma.

Damn you are here a lot.

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Solar_Crimson
02/20/24 12:09:02 AM
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Aloc posted...
You guys just want president haley.
No we don't.

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GrandConjuraton
02/20/24 12:09:53 AM
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Someone ITT needs to take their clownshoes off and take a good look at themselves if they're being serious right now, >.< . Stop trying to find reasons to snap at people when there are none.

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Null_Gain
02/20/24 12:12:26 AM
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GrandConjuraton posted...
They don't want a woman as president.

Let's not forget that she's an ethnic and religious minority as well.

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SecretBase
02/20/24 12:13:05 AM
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Aloc posted...

Yeah sure.

You guys just want president haley.

This board has more totally not right wingers than than it claims.

Well I don't. I'm just being snarky.

Logically, the most anti-Trump pro-democracy American would vote against Trump in both the primary and the general. People shame those who won't vote Biden but where's the hate for those who won't vote Haley?

I honestly don't think "vote blue no matter who" types should participate in the Dem. primaries at all. If you're gonna vote Dem. no matter what anyway then why does it fucking matter who you want as the nominee? Let the people who aren't party line voters decide that. >_>

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ssb_yunglink2
02/20/24 12:16:07 AM
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SecretBase posted...
Well I don't. I'm just being snarky.

Logically, the most anti-Trump pro-democracy American would vote against Trump in both the primary and the general. People shame those who won't vote Biden but where's the hate for those who won't vote Haley?

I honestly don't think "vote blue no matter who" types should participate in the Dem. primaries at all. If you're gonna vote Dem. no matter what anyway then why does it fucking matter who you want as the nominee? Let the people who aren't party line voters decide that. >_>
You assume that Haley wouldnt also implement 2025 and enshrine a conservative dictatorship. She already said shes going to pardon trump.

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Heineken14
02/20/24 12:17:16 AM
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SecretBase posted...
Well I don't. I'm just being snarky.

Logically, the most anti-Trump pro-democracy American would vote against Trump in both the primary and the general. People shame those who won't vote Biden but where's the hate for those who won't vote Haley?

I honestly don't think "vote blue no matter who" types should participate in the Dem. primaries at all. If you're gonna vote Dem. no matter what anyway then why does it fucking matter who you want as the nominee? Let the people who aren't party line voters decide that. >_>

So you're saying people should forgo their voice in the democratic party primaries in order to register as a republican and then vote in their primaries for someone who is currently getting steamrolled by Donnie because the overwhelming majority of republican voters want him as their candidate?

Well ok...

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Solar_Crimson
02/20/24 12:18:43 AM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
You assume that Haley wouldnt also implement 2025 and enshrine a conservative dictatorship. She already said shes going to pardon trump.
Yeah. Project 2025 depends on any Republican being elected President. It doesn't matter if it's Trump, Haley, or someone else.

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SecretBase
02/20/24 12:26:57 AM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...

You assume that Haley wouldnt also implement 2025 and enshrine a conservative dictatorship. She already said shes going to pardon trump.

Well then you vote Dem. in the general. Haley doesn't have a cult and can't storm the Capitol or anything after she loses.

But as it stands compared to voting for Haley shit like writing in Biden in New Hampshire is completely unproductive to the effort of stumping Trump.

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Aloc
02/20/24 12:28:34 AM
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Man I cannot believe CE wants haley in.

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davyheinz
02/20/24 12:31:22 AM
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Two many trolls in this topic, and yes I spelled it that way for a reason

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SecretBase
02/20/24 12:33:05 AM
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Heineken14 posted...
So you're saying people should forgo their voice in the democratic party primaries in order to register as a republican and then vote in their primaries for someone who is currently getting steamrolled by Donnie because the overwhelming majority of republican voters want him as their candidate?

Well ok...

It's our duty as Americans to vote against fascism on every front.

Are there any fascists running in the Dem. primary? No? Then by modern logic voting there instead of in the GOP primary is a careless waste of time.

Trump can't cheat a general election that he doesn't make it to.

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Heineken14
02/20/24 1:01:17 AM
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SecretBase posted...
It's our duty as Americans to vote against fascism on every front.

Are there any fascists running in the Dem. primary? No? Then by modern logic voting there instead of in the GOP primary is a careless waste of time.

Trump can't cheat a general election that he doesn't make it to.

The important thing is that you're trying!

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DarkChozoGhost
02/20/24 1:17:42 AM
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It doesn't make sense to take a day off to travel to the other side of the county to change your voter registration in person just so that you can vote against someone that's already gotten enough votes in other states to win the nomination. Especially because that gives your state's corrupt Republican SoS to use some screwy voter suppression laws to invalidate your registration, "accidentally" or not.

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streamofthesky
02/20/24 2:38:21 AM
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Because she's the same fucking policies as Trump, she's MAGA.
Can't even admit slavery caused the civil war and now says she'd pardon Cheeto.

Why the fuck would anti-Trump people vote for Trump in heels?

Whose alt is TC, anyway? He's all up in the Biden topic trying to convince people that Biden shouldn't be running and now he's trying to promote Haley.
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Naysaspace
02/20/24 2:42:09 AM
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Kradek
02/20/24 3:01:48 AM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
You assume that Haley wouldnt also implement 2025 and enshrine a conservative dictatorship. She already said shes going to pardon trump.

She's also a demonstrated Christo-fascist in her own right, even if she does present herself as more presentable than Trump or DeSantis. Not to mention she's said she'd pardon Trump, which ideally she'd be lying about that just to get his voters, and refuse to do so if she were to become POTUS.

However, I doubt it.

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SecretBase
02/20/24 9:14:49 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
Because she's the same fucking policies as Trump, she's MAGA.
Can't even admit slavery caused the civil war and now says she'd pardon Cheeto.

Why the fuck would anti-Trump people vote for Trump in heels?

Because she doesn't have a fascist cult, despite trying to pander to them, and nobody's gonna torch government buildings when she loses.

streamofthesky posted...
He's all up in the Biden topic trying to convince people that Biden shouldn't be running and now he's trying to promote Haley.

I'm not trying to convince anyone, I'm stating my opinion. And when my opinions are attacked I defend them. Nobody else has to agree. I'm perfectly fine with agreeing to disagree on political issues.

I don't care if you genuinely like Biden and want to vote for him in both the primary and general. I care if you use questionable logic to demand others do so. Because similar arguments could be used to demand Haley votes, too. Telling someone who hates Biden to vote for him in the general for the good of the country is not far removed from telling someone who hates Haley to vote for her in the primary for the good of the country (afterwards they could just vote Biden against her anyway). "Anyone but Trump" basically.

streamofthesky posted...
Methinks a Republican hoping Dems abandon their best candidate and Republicans get a slightly more competent version of Trump...

And there's a long running problem in American politics, people refusing to acknowledge crictism of their candidates. Whenever someone dismisses your guy it just has to be some slimy 4D chess move made out of fear of their triumphant campaign, instead of the person just legit thinking the candidate is bad.

From where I'm sitting Biden's polling poorly, has a 50/50 shot at losing, and isn't the "best" at much of anything. It's fine if you think differently but don't attribute your confidence to me as if it's some universal thing. I genuinely think Dems running Biden again was a mistake and they should've picked someone else to begin with in 2020 too.

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RchHomieQuanChi
02/20/24 9:18:17 AM
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I'd honestly be more worried about a Haley vs Biden general election than Trump vs Biden.

About the only thing firing up Democrat voters at the moment is the fear of another Trump presidency. Haley is just another dime-a-dozen Republican candidate that everyone would sleep on and underestimate.

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TMOG
02/20/24 9:24:29 AM
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SecretBase posted...
They're basically saying the only people who can bear to register Republican and vote in their primary are mostly sexist.
I mean... if it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...
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Heineken14
02/20/24 9:37:24 AM
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SecretBase posted...
I genuinely think Dems running Biden again was a mistake and they should've picked someone else to begin with in 2020 too.

People are voting for him... If the DNC publicly forced him out and decided to hand pick someone of their choosing, people like you would lose their absolute shit over it.

Not to mention, that would be a monumentally stupid move almost all but ensuring a republican victory.

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ScazarMeltex
02/20/24 9:47:53 AM
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GrandConjuraton posted...
They don't want a woman as president.
Especially one named Nimrata.

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ssb_yunglink2
02/20/24 9:50:31 AM
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ok, who are you gonna replace Biden with then TC? Whos your mega candidate that will blow Trump out of the water?

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SecretBase
02/20/24 9:51:37 AM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
I'd honestly be more worried about a Haley vs Biden general election than Trump vs Biden.

About the only thing firing up Democrat voters at the moment is the fear of another Trump presidency. Haley is just another dime-a-dozen Republican candidate that everyone would sleep on and underestimate.

Thing is a large portion of Trump supporters would never vote for her. Trump would wage war on the GOP. If she wasn't at risk of sabotage she might beat Biden, but with Trump still being a factor she couldn't.

Heineken14 posted...
People are voting for him... If the DNC publicly forced him out and decided to hand pick someone of their choosing, people like you would lose their absolute shit over it.

I'd be generally apathetic. Obviously it's not a winning optical move though.

It's too late to fix the problem, I'm speaking in past-tense. He shouldn't have run, but the damage is done.

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SecretBase
02/20/24 9:58:23 AM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
ok, who are you gonna replace Biden with then TC? Whos your mega candidate that will blow Trump out of the water?

There's no feasible way to do a swap at this point. We needed a whole primary season starting in 2022 to grow a credible national candidate.

That's why I'm suggesting the last ditch method to minimize Trump's chances of victory is to vote Haley in the primary and Biden in the general. But for some reason people only want to take a half-measure, and even have the audacity to get self righteous about it. >_>

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ssb_yunglink2
02/20/24 10:31:01 AM
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SecretBase posted...
There's no feasible way to do a swap at this point. We needed a whole primary season starting in 2022 to grow a credible national candidate.

That's why I'm suggesting the last ditch method to minimize Trump's chances of victory is to vote Haley in the primary and Biden in the general. But for some reason people only want to take a half-measure, and even have the audacity to get self righteous about it. >_>
Again, Haley is just as bad. Any conservative winning means project 2025 begins. Its not anti-trump, its anti conservative in general for this election, and every election until they stop trying to create a dictatorship.

Your idea is just kinda stupid and wont affect anything.

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Heineken14
02/20/24 10:43:59 AM
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SecretBase posted...
I'd be generally apathetic.

I'm sure.

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Irony
02/20/24 10:53:52 AM
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She's simultaneously not Trump and not enough like Trump

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02/20/24 10:58:52 AM
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Giving any Republican control and influence over House is never a good reason to vote for a Republican in todays political climate.

Plus youd have to be extra stupid to think any Republican can be trusted right now lol

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ClayGuida
02/20/24 11:04:51 AM
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Because the republican party is the maga party.

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ssb_yunglink2
02/20/24 11:05:35 AM
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TC is the same dude who thinks the concept of a Biden cult is an iffy subject,to put it in his words.

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
02/20/24 11:41:11 AM
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It's probably due to the fact that primary participation is abysmal

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