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ClayGuida 02/19/24 12:21:02 PM #51:	10 rating. --- lolAmerica <cite>ClayGuida posted [p:978926074] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>10 rating. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 02/19/24 12:48:43 PM #52:	I like Biden, but ranking a president while they're president seems foolhardy to me. That being said, Trump really is such an objective failure and treasonous fuckwad that his ranking at Buchanan-levels is already warranted. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:978926520] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>I like Biden, but ranking a president while they're president seems foolhardy to me.That being said, Trump really is such an objective failure and treasonous fuckwad that his ranking at Buchanan-levels is already warranted. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arcanine2009 02/19/24 12:50:06 PM #53:	What are the ratings based off of? --- Less is more. Everything you want, isn't everything you need. <cite>Arcanine2009 posted [p:978926542] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>What are the ratings based off of? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
radical_rhino 02/19/24 1:01:29 PM #54:	Ivynn posted... I assume this is based on accomplishments rather than them as people. That would explain why hated presidents like Jackson and Reagan are still so high. I think its some combination of: how historic their presidency was (first president, civil war president, first black president, etc.) their accomplishments them as a person (Trump last) --- .____ [____]===0 . . . . Ye olde beating stick. <cite>radical_rhino posted [p:978926727] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>Ivynn posted... </cite><quote>I assume this is based on accomplishments rather than them as people. That would explain why hated presidents like Jackson and Reagan are still so high.</quote>I think its some combination of: how historic their presidency was (first president, civil war president, first black president, etc.)their accomplishmentsthem as a person (Trump last) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida 02/19/24 1:31:56 PM #55:	https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1759635845894554095?t=9-HVJT8jJe6zlQU7e0yY1Q&s=19 Love how raged fox is. --- lolAmerica <cite>ClayGuida posted [p:978927227] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1759635845894554095?t=9-HVJT8jJe6zlQU7e0yY1Q&s=19Love how raged fox is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deanshow 02/19/24 1:35:46 PM #56:	Heineken14 posted... Glad to see Reagan slinking down on these lists. A lot of people that rate him highly, are people that benefitted from his policies I think. Now that a lot of those people are seeing the ramifications of it, they're slowly voting him down. I expect Obama to slide down in a few decades (his drone campaigns in the Middle East) --- Will not change this sig until Tommy Wiseau wins an Oscar (Started 12-21-2014) <cite>deanshow posted [p:978927293] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>Heineken14 posted... </cite><quote>Glad to see Reagan slinking down on these lists.</quote>A lot of people that rate him highly, are people that benefitted from his policies I think. Now that a lot of those people are seeing the ramifications of it, they're slowly voting him down. I expect Obama to slide down in a few decades (his drone campaigns in the Middle East) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkace77450 02/19/24 4:20:18 PM #57:	SuperSaiyanTien posted... "experts" I don't care how much you don't like Trump, but there were presidents who literally owned slaves, were pro-slavery, took part in ethnic cleansings, and/or committed genocide. To suggest Trump is "the worst" is ignorant at best, disingenuous at worst. You have no idea what youre talking about and should probably sit this one out. <cite>darkace77450 posted [p:978930046] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>SuperSaiyanTien posted... </cite><quote>"experts"I don't care how much you don't like Trump, but there were presidents who literally owned slaves, were pro-slavery, took part in ethnic cleansings, and/or committed genocide.To suggest Trump is "the worst" is ignorant at best, disingenuous at worst.</quote>You have no idea what youre talking about and should probably sit this one out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SecretBase 02/19/24 4:31:17 PM #58:	Based list. Clinton rising is unfortunate, but understandable due to garbage Republicans like Reagan dropping. --- Stop it. Get some help. <cite>SecretBase posted [p:978930197] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>Based list.Clinton rising is unfortunate, but understandable due to garbage Republicans like Reagan dropping. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 02/19/24 4:52:35 PM #59:	Obama at #7, really? I like the guy, but come on, he's not in the top 10! Truman at #6 despite nuking hundreds of thousands of civilians... Wilson doesn't deserve to be that high, either. Reagan is way too high, should be bottom 5 or at least bottom 10 Monroe is top 10 and it's sad people don't recognize that. Jackson at 21, are you fucking kidding me? DEAD FUCKING LAST! GWB and Nixon are both several spots too high The top 5 is fine, but after that the list shits the bed pretty hard. <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:978930544] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>Obama at #7, really? I like the guy, but come on, he's not in the top 10!Truman at #6 despite nuking hundreds of thousands of civilians...Wilson doesn't deserve to be that high, either.Reagan is way too high, should be bottom 5 or at least bottom 10Monroe is top 10 and it's sad people don't recognize that.Jackson at 21, are you fucking kidding me? DEAD FUCKING LAST!GWB and Nixon are both several spots too highThe top 5 is fine, but after that the list shits the bed pretty hard.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SecretBase 02/19/24 4:54:55 PM #60:	streamofthesky posted... Truman at #6 despite nuking hundreds of thousands of civilians... Wilson doesn't deserve to be that high, either. True those dudes need to drop. --- Stop it. Get some help. <cite>SecretBase posted [p:978930578] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>streamofthesky posted...</cite><quote>Truman at #6 despite nuking hundreds of thousands of civilians...Wilson doesn't deserve to be that high, either.</quote>True those dudes need to drop. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 02/19/24 6:17:41 PM #61:	Ivynn posted... I assume this is based on accomplishments rather than them as people. That would explain why hated presidents like Jackson and Reagan are still so high. Im almost certain it is --- Atlanta Falcons choking a 28-3 lead in the 3rd qtr: https://youtu.be/gY8exXZgyqc Atlanta Falcons choking a 26-10 lead in the 4th qtr: https://youtu.be/BYJHgyXiwvs <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:978932030] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>Ivynn posted... </cite><quote>I assume this is based on accomplishments rather than them as people. That would explain why hated presidents like Jackson and Reagan are still so high.</quote>Im almost certain it is </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EPR-radar 02/19/24 6:21:39 PM #62:	Ivynn posted... I assume this is based on accomplishments rather than them as people. That would explain why hated presidents like Jackson and Reagan are still so high. But it looks like these accomplishments are getting reevaluated with the benefit of hindsight. For example, nearly all of Reagan's "accomplishments" amount to setting the stage for Trumpism. I like to think that's why Reagan is falling to a lower place on this list. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:978932093] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>Ivynn posted... </cite><quote>I assume this is based on accomplishments rather than them as people. That would explain why hated presidents like Jackson and Reagan are still so high.</quote>But it looks like these accomplishments are getting reevaluated with the benefit of hindsight.For example, nearly all of Reagan's "accomplishments" amount to setting the stage for Trumpism.I like to think that's why Reagan is falling to a lower place on this list. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 02/19/24 6:23:14 PM #63:	Biden, Reagan and Obama are too high. Trump is in the right spot. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Best new show of 2023, One Piece live action. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:978932121] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>Biden, Reagan and Obama are too high.Trump is in the right spot. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Justin2Krelian 02/19/24 6:25:00 PM #64:	Reagan being that low definitely implies it leans a bit left (not saying it's wrong!), but not by too much. Surprised Polk's that low. I actually rank him even lower, but I know a lot of people put him top 15, if not top 10. Does anyone outside of historians think Wilson should be in the upper half? There's really no need for people to move Bush 43 up just because Trump's worse. C-SPAN did the same thing. At least this one moved him a bit down again. --- -J2K Currently Streaming: The Punisher, Umbrella Academy, Gen V, The Expanse, Reacher, Servant <cite>Justin2Krelian posted [p:978932147] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>Reagan being that low definitely implies it leans a bit left (not saying it's wrong!), but not by too much.Surprised Polk's that low. I actually rank him even lower, but I know a lot of people put him top 15, if not top 10. Does anyone outside of historians think Wilson should be in the upper half?There's really no need for people to move Bush 43 up just because Trump's worse. C-SPAN did the same thing. At least this one moved him a bit down again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EPR-radar 02/19/24 6:27:27 PM #65:	creativerealms posted... Trump is in the right spot. Trump's position is a no-brainer. Even before Jan 6, he was a strong contender for worst ever. Jan 6 put him at rock bottom with shit loads of margin to spare. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:978932187] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>creativerealms posted... </cite><quote>Trump is in the right spot.</quote>Trump's position is a no-brainer. Even before Jan 6, he was a strong contender for worst ever. Jan 6 put him at rock bottom with shit loads of margin to spare. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 02/19/24 6:29:19 PM #66:	I always think about those big pictures of all the Presidents schools have and how they all look really dignified and important but now they are all going to include Trump standing out like a sore thumb. --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7T2OR-O2Vk <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:978932213] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>I always think about those big pictures of all the Presidents schools have and how they all look really dignified and important but now they are all going to include Trump standing out like a sore thumb. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Justin2Krelian 02/19/24 6:29:45 PM #67:	Looking at the document a little, they divide by left and right historians, but they're extremely similar. I've seen this before. The Conservatives and Republicans not only put Biden over Trump, but even Obama over Bush/ --- -J2K Currently Streaming: The Punisher, Umbrella Academy, Gen V, The Expanse, Reacher, Servant <cite>Justin2Krelian posted [p:978932220] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>Looking at the document a little, they divide by left and right historians, but they're extremely similar. I've seen this before. The Conservatives and Republicans not only put Biden over Trump, but even Obama over Bush/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ForsakenHermit 02/19/24 6:32:51 PM #68:	Slug Virus shouldn't be compared to the other 44 men period. --- Beware the fanatic! Too often his cure is deadlier by far than the evil he denounces!-Stan Lee RIP Make Arcades Great Again! <cite>ForsakenHermit posted [p:978932277] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>Slug Virus shouldn't be compared to the other 44 men period. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EPR-radar 02/19/24 6:34:29 PM #70:	Justin2Krelian posted... Looking at the document a little, they divide by left and right historians, but they're extremely similar. I've seen this before. The Conservatives and Republicans not only put Biden over Trump, but even Obama over Bush/ Reality-based conservatives are stuck with those outcomes. That's why the GOP is busily ensuring reality-based conservatives go extinct. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:978932306] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>Justin2Krelian posted... </cite><quote>Looking at the document a little, they divide by left and right historians, but they're extremely similar. I've seen this before. The Conservatives and Republicans not only put Biden over Trump, but even Obama over Bush/</quote>Reality-based conservatives are stuck with those outcomes. That's why the GOP is busily ensuring reality-based conservatives go extinct. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giacomo_Hawkins 02/19/24 6:34:29 PM #69:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ef4cc979.jpg It would seen the answer is still a resounding no. --- Will the little voice in the back of my mind screaming "This is a bad idea" please yield the floor. --Mikey Chivalry be hanged, and so will you. <cite>Giacomo_Hawkins posted [p:978932305] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ef4cc979.jpgIt would seen the answer is still a resounding no. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bevan306 02/19/24 6:35:07 PM #71:	Biden should be higher --- http://rateyourmusic.com/~bevan http://i.imgur.com/5Ta28.jpg <cite>bevan306 posted [p:978932315] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>Biden should be higher </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Rial 02/19/24 6:36:40 PM #72:	https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/usappblog/2024/02/19/who-experts-consider-to-be-the-greatest-president-is-changing-with-the-times/#About --- I use Google... A lot.... >______> <cite>King_Rial posted [p:978932341] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/usappblog/2024/02/19/who-experts-consider-to-be-the-greatest-president-is-changing-with-the-times/#About </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kain_Highwind 02/19/24 6:39:53 PM #73:	EPR-radar posted... Trump's position is a no-brainer. Even before Jan 6, he was a strong contender for worst ever. Jan 6 put him at rock bottom with shit loads of margin to spare. Jackson/Buchanan/Johnson/W/Reagan were worse he's right after them tho --- http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9362/davidbowie.jpg David Bowie <cite>Kain_Highwind posted [p:978932397] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>EPR-radar posted... </cite><quote>Trump's position is a no-brainer. Even before Jan 6, he was a strong contender for worst ever. Jan 6 put him at rock bottom with shit loads of margin to spare.</quote>Jackson/Buchanan/Johnson/W/Reagan were worsehe's right after them tho </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/19/24 7:51:40 PM #74:	EPR-radar posted... Trump's position is a no-brainer. Even before Jan 6, he was a strong contender for worst ever. Jan 6 put him at rock bottom with shit loads of margin to spare. People were putting him in the bottom before Jan 6 just because of his shitty COVID response. The Jan 6 stuff just cemented it. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:978933513] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>EPR-radar posted... </cite><quote>Trump's position is a no-brainer. Even before Jan 6, he was a strong contender for worst ever. Jan 6 put him at rock bottom with shit loads of margin to spare.</quote>People were putting him in the bottom before Jan 6 just because of his shitty COVID response. The Jan 6 stuff just cemented it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReiRei89 02/19/24 8:22:16 PM #75:	Kain_Highwind posted... Jackson/Buchanan/Johnson/W/Reagan were worse he's right after them tho No. Fatfuck is worse by far. He actually attempted a fucking coup against the Government to keep himself in power. Put fat fuck in Jackson, Buchanon, Johnson, Dubya, Reagan's shoes and he'd do a hell of a lot worse than them. --- FGO US:973,940,202 JP:410,404,215 Resident Europa fangirl <cite>ReiRei89 posted [p:978934035] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>Kain_Highwind posted... </cite><quote>Jackson/Buchanan/Johnson/W/Reagan were worsehe's right after them tho</quote>No. Fatfuck is worse by far. He actually attempted a fucking coup against the Government to keep himself in power. Put fat fuck in Jackson, Buchanon, Johnson, Dubya, Reagan's shoes and he'd do a hell of a lot worse than them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kain_Highwind 02/19/24 8:24:27 PM #76:	ReiRei89 posted... No. Fatfuck is worse by far. He actually attempted a fucking coup against the Government to keep himself in power. Put fat fuck in Jackson, Buchanon, Johnson, Dubya, Reagan's shoes and he'd do a hell of a lot worse than them. Jackson committed a nazi level genocide, Buchanan let the Civil War happen without doing anything to stop it, Johnson might be the one president more corrupt, W had the Middle East --- http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9362/davidbowie.jpg David Bowie <cite>Kain_Highwind posted [p:978934074] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>ReiRei89 posted... </cite><quote>No. Fatfuck is worse by far. He actually attempted a fucking coup against the Government to keep himself in power. Put fat fuck in Jackson, Buchanon, Johnson, Dubya, Reagan's shoes and he'd do a hell of a lot worse than them.</quote>Jackson committed a nazi level genocide, Buchanan let the Civil War happen without doing anything to stop it, Johnson might be the one president more corrupt, W had the Middle East </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReiRei89 02/19/24 8:26:01 PM #77:	Kain_Highwind posted... Jackson committed a nazi level genocide, Buchanan let the Civil War happen without doing anything to stop it, Johnson might be the one president more corrupt, W had the Middle East You're a fool if you believe Trump wouldn't have tried even harder to wipe out the natives, done anything to stop the Civil War from happening, contributed anything meaningful to reconstruction, or not declared war on the ME after 9-11. Guy is historically trash and irreparably damaged our Government. --- FGO US:973,940,202 JP:410,404,215 Resident Europa fangirl <cite>ReiRei89 posted [p:978934106] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>Kain_Highwind posted... </cite><quote>Jackson committed a nazi level genocide, Buchanan let the Civil War happen without doing anything to stop it, Johnson might be the one president more corrupt, W had the Middle East</quote>You're a fool if you believe Trump wouldn't have tried even harder to wipe out the natives, done anything to stop the Civil War from happening, contributed anything meaningful to reconstruction, or not declared war on the ME after 9-11. Guy is historically trash and irreparably damaged our Government. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kain_Highwind 02/19/24 8:33:21 PM #78:	He probably would've But he didn't So they're worse outside of hypotheticals --- http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9362/davidbowie.jpg David Bowie <cite>Kain_Highwind posted [p:978934243] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>He probably would'veBut he didn'tSo they're worse outside of hypotheticals </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/19/24 8:34:16 PM #79:	Kain_Highwind posted... Jackson committed a nazi level genocide, Buchanan let the Civil War happen without doing anything to stop it, Johnson might be the one president more corrupt, W had the Middle East One of Trump's only two books he owns is mein Kampf. He's not "Nazi level" he straight up idolizes them. Praised China for the Tiananmen Square Massacre and brought concentration camps to America, and when people tried to object, Godwin himself said "no actually those are concentration camps" Civil War was inevitable. Trump killed more Americans by doing nothing about COVID-19. Johnson merely shut down reconstruction. Trump has actively regressed civil rights. Trump literally assassinated Suleimani and negotiated the deal to let the Taliban take over Afghanistan. Everything those other presidents did, Trump did worse. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:978934264] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>Kain_Highwind posted... </cite><quote>Jackson committed a nazi level genocide, Buchanan let the Civil War happen without doing anything to stop it, Johnson might be the one president more corrupt, W had the Middle East</quote>One of Trump's only two books he owns is mein Kampf. He's not "Nazi level" he straight up idolizes them. Praised China for the Tiananmen Square Massacre and brought concentration camps to America, and when people tried to object, Godwin himself said "no actually those are concentration camps" Civil War was inevitable. Trump killed more Americans by doing nothing about COVID-19. Johnson merely shut down reconstruction. Trump has actively regressed civil rights. Trump literally assassinated Suleimani and negotiated the deal to let the Taliban take over Afghanistan.Everything those other presidents did, Trump did worse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Justin2Krelian 02/19/24 8:39:20 PM #80:	EPR-radar posted... Reality-based conservatives are stuck with those outcomes. That's why the GOP is busily ensuring reality-based conservatives go extinct. Maybe all of the ones who remain work for this survey. --- -J2K Currently Streaming: The Punisher, Umbrella Academy, Gen V, The Expanse, Reacher, Servant <cite>Justin2Krelian posted [p:978934365] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>EPR-radar posted... </cite><quote>Reality-based conservatives are stuck with those outcomes. That's why the GOP is busily ensuring reality-based conservatives go extinct.</quote>Maybe all of the ones who remain work for this survey. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zero_Destroyer 02/19/24 9:48:22 PM #81:	Tyranthraxus posted... 3. Johnson merely shut down reconstruction. Trump has actively regressed civil rights. Regressing civil rights is certainly a thing Trump has pushed forward and enabled, but absolutely nothing compares to the situation Johnson created through the de-facto ending of reconstruction. He was racist even among his contemporaries and was chosen by Lincoln to ease fears since there was at one point a time where Lincoln's reelection wasn't ensured. When you say "Merely halted reconstruction" you don't mention what comes with that. After the Civil War ended there were multiple Black elected officials in the Southern United States. This was all ended for a variety of reasons that ultimately come down to the government's intentional abdication of authority to the Southern States to enact whatever laws they saw fit. This meant the de-facto reinstitution of slavery through an infinite number of racial and non-racially coded laws that enabled the Southern states to enslave criminals (therefor common non-criminal actions done by the impoverished were criminalized, an integral part of Jim Crow.) Black men did ultimately attain some level of civil rights in some areas but Johnson's actions to defang reconstruction (causing its eventual revocation) destroyed this, meaning he did substantially regress civil rights to a degree far greater than Trump. Any sense of ending the prewar establishment in which black people were subjugated by the Southern states was essentially negated in all but strictly legal terms the same way "bribes" with a big $ bag are banned but lobbying to excess is legal. It was a matter of paperwork and "creative" enforcement. Johnson was an avowed white supremacist to an extreme even among his contemporaries (much like Wilson), openly corrupt, and objectively played the largest single hand of any public official in the US to allow Jim Crow, neoslavery, the brutalization of a freed black populace, and generations of terrorism. If only to prove this point further, the federal government nationalizing state guards to enforce Supreme Court orders - i.e. enforcing the law by gunpoint and force - was the only thing that seriously combated the Southern coalition. Am I saying Trump is incapable of doing this? Certainly not. But the current spread of shitty laws regressing civil rights do not compare to the magnitude that was in effect the century of apartheid Johnson very intentionally caused. --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) <cite>Zero_Destroyer posted [p:978935640] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>3. Johnson merely shut down reconstruction. Trump has actively regressed civil rights. </quote>Regressing civil rights is certainly a thing Trump has pushed forward and enabled, but absolutely nothing compares to the situation Johnson created through the de-facto ending of reconstruction. He was racist even among his contemporaries and was chosen by Lincoln to ease fears since there was at one point a time where Lincoln's reelection wasn't ensured. When you say "Merely halted reconstruction" you don't mention what comes with that. After the Civil War ended there were multiple Black elected officials in the Southern United States. This was all ended for a variety of reasons that ultimately come down to the government's intentional abdication of authority to the Southern States to enact whatever laws they saw fit. This meant the de-facto reinstitution of slavery through an infinite number of racial and non-racially coded laws that enabled the Southern states to enslave criminals (therefor common non-criminal actions done by the impoverished were criminalized, an integral part of Jim Crow.)Black men did ultimately attain some level of civil rights in some areas but Johnson's actions to defang reconstruction (causing its eventual revocation) destroyed this, meaning he did substantially regress civil rights to a degree far greater than Trump. Any sense of ending the prewar establishment in which black people were subjugated by the Southern states was essentially negated in all but strictly legal terms the same way "bribes" with a big $ bag are banned but lobbying to excess is legal. It was a matter of paperwork and "creative" enforcement.Johnson was an avowed white supremacist to an extreme even among his contemporaries (much like Wilson), openly corrupt, and objectively played the largest single hand of any public official in the US to allow Jim Crow, neoslavery, the brutalization of a freed black populace, and generations of terrorism. If only to prove this point further, the federal government nationalizing state guards to enforce Supreme Court orders - i.e. enforcing the law by gunpoint and force - was the only thing that seriously combated the Southern coalition. Am I saying Trump is incapable of doing this? Certainly not. But the current spread of shitty laws regressing civil rights do not compare to the magnitude that was in effect the century of apartheid Johnson very intentionally caused. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tripleh213 02/20/24 11:11:40 AM #82:	bump --- Bucks World Champions 2021 PS4 looks great <cite>tripleh213 posted [p:978943415] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>bump </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkace77450 02/20/24 1:15:08 PM #83:	This former Republican gets it. https://twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/1759644343650938999 <cite>darkace77450 posted [p:978945419] in Presidenti... [t:80700413]...</cite> <quote>This former Republican gets it.https://twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/1759644343650938999</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > Presidential experts release President rankings survey: Biden 14th/Trump Last (+) Yeah! (+)

Current Events > Presidential experts release President rankings survey: Biden 14th/Trump Last