Current Events > When are Democrats going to realize not voting for Biden will ensue a Trump win?

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Always vote for the better candidate(Biden).

colliding posted...

they will hate him, but they will blame Biden and the Dems for not putting forth a "better" candidate and they will feel vindicated that they didn't vote for a man who signed an executive order to support a country that killed over 27,000 innocent people

That's fine. I will be glad to call them a fucking idiot the same as delusional Donnie cult members who feel "vindicated" for shit they are wrong about.

EPR-radar posted...

LOL at that. Anyone that knows your track record knows exactly who you are voting for in the general.

Agreed. "not voting for Biden" is a dog whistle.

Kafkaf posted...

Always vote for the better candidate(Biden).

But I was told that protest non-votes accomplish something.

SecretBase posted...

The issue young progressives are gonna have is that not even 10% of the shouting towards them was aimed at getting the Dems to vote for someone more preferable in the 2016/2020 primaries.

So it's gonna be a "you don't listen, why should I" thing.

This is a perfect encapsulation of why not voting is fucking stupid if your idea is to "change people's minds." For fucking yonks the youth have not reliably turned out to vote, and guess what.... nobody gave a shit about them because they weren't turning out to vote. Now suddenly the last few elections that is changing, and hey, would you look at that.......

Heineken14 posted...

Now suddenly the last few elections that is changing, and hey, would you look at that...

Roe v wade is still overturned. Mitch McConnell stole seats with no repercussions. Loan forgiveness is dead and buried. Our ally went from apartheid to genocide. Cannabis is a schedule 1 drug.

What are they still doing to appeal to young voters?

ButteryMales posted...

Roe v wade is still overturned. Mitch McConnell stole seats with no repercussions. Loan forgiveness is dead and buried. Our ally went from apartheid to genocide. Cannabis is a schedule 1 drug.

What are they still doing to appeal to young voters?

youyou realize democrats didnt overturn roe V wade and that Mitch mcconnell is a republican right

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

youyou realize democrats didnt overturn roe V wade and that Mitch mcconnell is a republican right

Yes. Do you know Biden/Obama is/was the head of the state department and Mitch McConnell is a traitor? McConnell should be rotting in prison.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

youyou realize democrats didnt overturn roe V wade and that Mitch mcconnell is a republican right

Biden: "Vote me as President and I will protect abortion rights"
Proceeds to get elected and do nothing.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/10/06/biden-vows-to-protect-abortion-rights-provoking-harsh-response-from-trump/?sh=ae30d4720510

ButteryMales posted...

Roe v wade is still overturned. Mitch McConnell stole seats with no repercussions. Loan forgiveness is dead and buried. Our ally went from apartheid to genocide. Cannabis is a schedule 1 drug.

What are they still doing to appeal to young voters?

There should be no questions to ask when the vote is between the not-fascist or the fascist

mistymermaid posted...

There should be no questions to ask when the vote is between the not-fascist or the fascist

"Are you supplying weapons for a genocide?" is a pretty important question to ask to find out who's fascist or not.

squall567 posted...

Biden: "Vote me as President and I will protect abortion rights"
Proceeds to get elected and do nothing.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/10/06/biden-vows-to-protect-abortion-rights-provoking-harsh-response-from-trump/?sh=ae30d4720510

What the fuck did you want Biden to do about a conservative supreme court that Trump put together? How did you want him to stop that decision from being made?

Vyrulisse posted...

What even is this argument?
I feel like people are underestimating how much Trump in power would change the dynamic. Israel is still getting some pressure at least, with Trump they would get none.

You think israel is getting pressured? LMAO!!

LightHawKnight posted...

They need to learn that change isnt instant and perfect is the enemy of good. If they cant get it through their heads that having a fucking DICTATOR is bad for their future, then they are a lost cause.

Change isn't instant except when a republican gets in, apparently. I wonder why that is.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

What the fuck did you want Biden to do about a conservative supreme court that Trump put together? How did you want him to stop that decision from being made?

Expand the supreme court.

ButteryMales posted...

Roe v wade is still overturned. Mitch McConnell stole seats with no repercussions. Loan forgiveness is dead and buried. Our ally went from apartheid to genocide. Cannabis is a schedule 1 drug.

What are they still doing to appeal to young voters?

You're hopeless until you figure out how our election system and policy work.

1337toothbrush posted...

You think israel is getting pressured? LMAO!!

Change isn't instant except when a republican gets in, apparently. I wonder why that is.

Expand the supreme court.

Biden does not have the power to change the supreme court. That falls to congress.

Its also much easier to destroy and take things away, than to create and give new rights to people. Which of the 2 do you think republicans do when they get power?

1337toothbrush posted...

Change isn't instant except when a republican gets in, apparently. I wonder why that is.

You do realize that destroying things is much much much faster and easier than building/fixing things right?

LightHawKnight posted...

You do realize that destroying things is much much much faster and easier than building/fixing things right?

Probably not.

LightHawKnight posted...

You do realize that destroying things is much much much faster and easier than building/fixing things right?

It's just willful ignorance at this point. Like did women's suffrage or civil rights or the abolition of slavery happen in a single presidential cycle? Fuck no. What the fuck.

Heineken14 posted...

For fucking yonks the youth have not reliably turned out to vote, and guess what.... nobody gave a shit about them because they weren't turning out to vote.

You've got it backwards - they didn't turn out to vote because nobody gave a shit about them.

Its insane how many people who call themselves leftists are all gung-ho for an armed revolution but cant even be bothered to vote - the literal bare minimum.

ButteryMales posted...

"Are you supplying weapons for a genocide?" is a pretty important question to ask to find out who's fascist or not.

OMG he's still on the genocide bit

Will_VIIII posted...

OMG he's still on the genocide bit

More to the point, so is Israel's government.

SaikyoStyle posted...

Its insane how many people who call themselves leftists are all gung-ho for an armed revolution but cant even be bothered to vote - the literal bare minimum.

For real. I doubt they'd even pick up a gun or do anything besides complain if it really got to that point.

Heineken14 posted...

People who are so easily swayed like this were never going to vote for a democrat anyway.

I have them tagged as a chud, so YMMV.

Heineken14 posted...

Nah, nittanylions had a huge meltdown Sunday night leading into today, so this guy gets a mulligan for the week.

He has me blocked. What did he do?

LightHawKnight posted...

You do realize that destroying things is much much much faster and easier than building/fixing things right?

Then destroy the support for israel.

1337toothbrush posted...

Then destroy the support for israel.

Damn just an absolute and total deflection because your question was answered and you have nothing to say.

1337toothbrush posted...

Then destroy the support for israel.

Its funny how people think the US government wouldnt support Israel. Hell if the orange idiot was in charge, and if he does win again, he would most likely send US soldiers to assist Israel.

LightHawKnight posted...

Its funny how people think the US government wouldnt support Israel.

A lot of people arguing with me have claimed Biden doesn't support Israel.

"I'm not voting and you can't make me"
"Ok."
"No, I'm really not voting, I don't care"
"Ok."

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

You've got it backwards - they didn't turn out to vote because nobody gave a shit about them.

Oh we give a shit about people who don't vote. In that they're shitty for not voting for anything other than a republican.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Damn just an absolute and total deflection because your question was answered and you have nothing to say.

"Destroying things is so easy!"
"Then destroy this thing we want to destroy"
"DEFLECTION!!!!!!"

Nah, you're deflecting. The democrats don't want to do shit and they have a million and one excuses for it. Stop parroting their bullshit.

LightHawKnight posted...

Its funny how people think the US government wouldnt support Israel. Hell if the orange idiot was in charge, and if he does win again, he would most likely send US soldiers to assist Israel.

So our choices are keeping things bad or making them worse. Awesome!

mybbqrules posted...

He has me blocked. What did he do?

He went super hard in the paint on simping for Elon and all that entails (i.e. crying and insulting users and lying about shit) in like 4-5 topics from Sunday to Monday.

1337toothbrush posted...

So our choices are keeping things bad or making them worse. Awesome!

Hi, welcome to voting in America for the last forever years.

1337toothbrush posted...

So our choices are keeping things bad or making them worse. Awesome!

What has Biden done that you don't agree with? Can you name 3 things? Or are you just going to play concern troll about this or that.

1337toothbrush posted...

"Destroying things is so easy!"
"Then destroy this thing we want to destroy"
"DEFLECTION!!!!!!"

Nah, you're deflecting. The democrats don't want to do shit and they have a million and one excuses for it. Stop parroting their bullshit.

So our choices are keeping things bad or making them worse. Awesome!

Just vote for Trump at this point dude. Youre probably not even gonna vote at all anyway. Bidens stance on Israel is better than Trumps even tho its still currently very bad. There are no other options than Trump or Biden.

Yes, destroying the rights of minorities, women, and lgbt people will be quite easy for conservatives if Trump wins. So continue whining about democrats as you always do.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Yes, destroying the rights of minorities, women, and lgbt people will be quite easy for conservatives if Trump wins. So continue whining about democrats as you always do.

They haven't had trouble doing that while Obama and Biden were President. McConnell should have been put on trial for treason and in jail but we have to be "civil"/spineless with traitors.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Just vote for Trump at this point dude. Youre probably not even gonna vote at all anyway. Bidens stance on Israel is better than Trumps even tho its still currently very bad. There are no other options than Trump or Biden.

Yes, destroying the rights of minorities, women, and lgbt people will be quite easy for conservatives if Trump wins. So continue whining about democrats as you always do.

I'm tagging them as a chud. This defeatist "nothing is getting done *sob*" attitude toward democrats benefits conservatives.

mistymermaid posted...

I'm tagging them as a chud. This defeatist "nothing is getting done *sob*" attitude toward democrats benefits conservatives.

Plus the whole "Project 2025 is nothing because Southern Strategy" argument.

Which is a very stupid argument, because the Southern Strategy fucked up the country to this day.

ClayGuida posted...

What has Biden done that you don't agree with? Can you name 3 things? Or are you just going to play concern troll about this or that.

Supporting genocide (with speech claiming this was good for our defense). Increasing funding to police (with speech saying that we shouldn't defund the police but instead do the exact opposite). Increased drilling permits (while boasting that we're breaking records in oil production). Want more?

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Just vote for Trump at this point dude. Youre probably not even gonna vote at all anyway. Bidens stance on Israel is better than Trumps even tho its still currently very bad. There are no other options than Trump or Biden.

Yes, destroying the rights of minorities, women, and lgbt people will be quite easy for conservatives if Trump wins. So continue whining about democrats as you always do.

No, I never have and never will vote for a republican. I am going to vote, not just in the general, but also the primary (not for biden in the primary, to send a message).

1337toothbrush posted...

(not for biden in the primary, to send a message).

so brave

1337toothbrush posted...

Supporting genocide (with speech claiming this was good for our defense). Increasing funding to police (with speech saying that we shouldn't defund the police but instead do the exact opposite). Increased drilling permits (while boasting that we're breaking records in oil production). Want more?

We've been over all this repeatedly.

Israel, absolutely, idk why he refuses to budge there fuck that, but I also don't believe for one moment you give any fucks about Palestinians, as I personally don't recall you ever posting in any other Israel/Palestinian clash topics on 261 or here, but here you are, acting like only now it matters, when Israel has been doing this shit for 75 years.

Second, Biden hasn't 'increased' funding, I already posted the numbers before, but he essentially helped give them something like .1% of their total police budget or something. He's helped give all police departments something like 500 million, when the national cost of policing is like 277 billion or some shit.

Third, he didn't allow more drilling, he leased more land to be potential drilling sites, but he's also increased the royalty payments they receive. He's basically charging them more to lease land they're not actually using.

DrizztLink posted...

so brave

I expect to tag a whole lot more "new accounts" throughout the election cycle.

1337toothbrush posted...

Supporting genocide (with speech claiming this was good for our defense). Increasing funding to police (with speech saying that we shouldn't defund the police but instead do the exact opposite). Increased drilling permits (while boasting that we're breaking records in oil production). Want more?

Bold is good actually. Police is bad in many areas but actual defending of police will not help. I think we deserve better police, and I don't think that's solved with less funding. I understand not everyone agrees with this.

Increased drilling permits have caused us to be able to decouple more from middle east and Russia for oil and gas, and become able to be the ones to supply energy to Europe. I actually think that short term energy dependent in the form of fossil fuels, WHILE making large investments in renewables and nuclear is a good plan. We've seen insane increases in solar and battery generation installation, while not facing insane energy price increases.
Think how insane people, from both the left and the right, get over increased gas and energy prices. To change things ,you actually have to stay in power and win votes. That means having to prioritize different short and long term gains.

My only complaint is I wish the admin made it easier to get permitting done for renewable energy permitting . So much renewable energy stuck in permitting hell

Such a strange world that not voting for a President supplying weapons for a genocide make you a c.h.u.d. around here. What do people consider Vietnam-War protesters now?

Do I get to be 500?

No?

Damn it.

ButteryMales posted...

Such a strange world that not voting for a President supplying weapons for a genocide make you a c.h.u.d. around here. What do people consider Vietnam-War protesters now?

Which president will you be voting for?

ButteryMales posted...

Such a strange world that not voting for a President supplying weapons for a genocide make you a c.h.u.d. around here. What do people consider Vietnam-War protesters now?

no youre a chud because you dont think project 2025 is a problem.

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