Board 8 > Why do RTS devs always block the ability to do all AI battles?

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ra2ah3roma2ma 02/12/24 11:37:33 AM #1:	As in, remove yourself from it and just spectate the game. It's so weird to me because I can't see any reason for it - the AI works fine and fights itself fine, so why not just....remove fog of war and let you spectate? But I can't find a single RTS that allows it. I know they exist but still :( <cite>ra2ah3roma2ma posted [p:978801912] in Why do RTS... [t:80694858]...</cite> <quote>As in, remove yourself from it and just spectate the game. It's so weird to me because I can't see any reason for it - the AI works fine and fights itself fine, so why not just....remove fog of war and let you spectate?But I can't find a single RTS that allows it. I know they exist but still :(</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingButz 02/12/24 1:29:59 PM #2:	Age of Empires 2 --- to me hero's is just bad person <cite>KingButz posted [p:978803980] in Why do RTS... [t:80694858]...</cite> <quote>Age of Empires 2 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ra2ah3roma2ma 02/12/24 1:33:17 PM #3:	KingButz posted... Age of Empires 2 Yeah someone just pointed this out to me and I'm doing it now lol, apparently they added the ability in Definitive <cite>ra2ah3roma2ma posted [p:978804045] in Why do RTS... [t:80694858]...</cite> <quote>KingButz posted... </cite><quote>Age of Empires 2</quote>Yeah someone just pointed this out to me and I'm doing it now lol, apparently they added the ability in Definitive</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fiop 02/12/24 2:32:43 PM #4:	I'm pretty sure both Starcraft 1 and Warcraft 3 allow this. My guess is modern devs think it would be a little used mechanic and don't want to bother to support it. --- "so is my word...It will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose for which I sent it." - Isaiah 55:11 <cite>Fiop posted [p:978805089] in Why do RTS... [t:80694858]...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty sure both Starcraft 1 and Warcraft 3 allow this.My guess is modern devs think it would be a little used mechanic and don't want to bother to support it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WazzupGenius00 02/12/24 2:42:36 PM #5:	the answer is that in most of these games the AI has to cheat to stand a chance (can see the whole map, gets extra resources, etc) and that would become very obvious if you were just watching them at all times. The reason AoE2 doesn't anymore is because they made AI that are actually good at the game and play like players do. --- http://i.imgur.com/k0v0z3q.gif <cite>WazzupGenius00 posted [p:978805251] in Why do RTS... [t:80694858]...</cite> <quote>the answer is that in most of these games the AI has to cheat to stand a chance (can see the whole map, gets extra resources, etc) and that would become very obvious if you were just watching them at all times. The reason AoE2 doesn't anymore is because they made AI that are actually good at the game and play like players do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ra2ah3roma2ma 02/12/24 2:42:54 PM #6:	Fiop posted... My guess is modern devs think it would be a little used mechanic and don't want to bother to support it. But it's literally the most minimum effort possible, and in some cases it's LESS effort to allow it <cite>ra2ah3roma2ma posted [p:978805256] in Why do RTS... [t:80694858]...</cite> <quote>Fiop posted... </cite><quote>My guess is modern devs think it would be a little used mechanic and don't want to bother to support it.</quote>But it's literally the most minimum effort possible, and in some cases it's LESS effort to allow it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grand_Kirby 02/12/24 4:54:24 PM #7:	I think in a lot of games you'll find that the AI doesn't "fight itself fine". A lot of times the AI in games is built on top of their responses to player input and tends to flounder and become more stupid without an actual human being to respond to. It's like, they need someone to "bounce off on" in order to respond correctly, since they're mainly designed to counteract rather than to take initiative (the latter is a lot harder to program). Because of that if they're only responding to other AIs they all tend to stagnate and make unusual actions without someone real to initiate a decision they can then react to and build off on. --- Okay, I rolled a 14. What's that mean? Hsu That you're a cheater. This is a 12-sided die. Chan <cite>Grand_Kirby posted [p:978807739] in Why do RTS... [t:80694858]...</cite> <quote>I think in a lot of games you'll find that the AI doesn't "fight itself fine". A lot of times the AI in games is built on top of their responses to player input and tends to flounder and become more stupid without an actual human being to respond to. It's like, they need someone to "bounce off on" in order to respond correctly, since they're mainly designed to counteract rather than to take initiative (the latter is a lot harder to program). Because of that if they're only responding to other AIs they all tend to stagnate and make unusual actions without someone real to initiate a decision they can then react to and build off on. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 02/12/24 7:16:27 PM #8:	ra2ah3roma2ma posted... But it's literally the most minimum effort possible, and in some cases it's LESS effort to allow it What experience are you using to conclude this? --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:978810182] in Why do RTS... [t:80694858]...</cite> <quote>ra2ah3roma2ma posted... </cite><quote>But it's literally the most minimum effort possible, and in some cases it's LESS effort to allow it</quote>What experience are you using to conclude this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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