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Number090684
02/12/24 4:13:01 PM
#51:


NeonTentacles posted...
Yuffie was in Intergrade

I didnt play remake but doesnt Red XIII join at the end?

Red XIII was only a non playable guest character in Part 1.
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WingsOfGood
02/12/24 4:13:49 PM
#52:


watch Vincent be a dlc

actually he most likely 100% is.....
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Rharyx211
02/12/24 4:14:20 PM
#53:


NeonTentacles posted...
I didnt play remake but doesnt Red XIII join at the end?
He does, but he's not playable from what I've heard, since he gets introduced basically right at the end.

tbh, if they hadn't already made a playable Yuffie for her own DLC, I feel like she wouldn't have been playable here either.

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Baha05
02/12/24 4:15:19 PM
#54:


Rharyx211 posted...
He does, but he's not playable from what I've heard, since he gets introduced basically right at the end.

tbh, if they hadn't already made a playable Yuffie for her own DLC, I feel like she wouldn't have been playable here either.
Ehh maybe though I kinda wonder if they didnt do that DLC would they make her a random encounter?

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MrMojoRising
02/12/24 4:16:05 PM
#55:


Rharyx211 posted...
tbh, if they hadn't already made a playable Yuffie for her own DLC, I feel like she wouldn't have been playable here either.

Really? I'm playing OG 7 for the first time, and I got her pretty early. No sign of Cid or Vincent, so to me, so far, Yuffie being playable makes sense.

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Baha05
02/12/24 4:24:25 PM
#56:


MrMojoRising posted...
Really? I'm playing OG 7 for the first time, and I got her pretty early. No sign of Cid or Vincent, so to me, so far, Yuffie being playable makes sense.
Well the original it was entirely possible to skip both of them since Yuffie and Vincent are in a way secret characters. Though with the remake its a much bigger assumption of playability considering while the original games made them side characters later games and media made them more important (well at least Vincent, Yuffie is more just kinda there)

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MrMojoRising
02/13/24 9:29:27 AM
#57:


Lol, funnily enough, I was in Rocket Town and just got Cid like right after my post yesterday. And you're right on Yuffie, since I did have to do a few forest battles before she popped up and if I was playing blind, I'd very likely miss her. (She even ran away the first time cuz I went to the save point, i was so mad)

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creativerealms
02/13/24 9:37:43 AM
#59:


WingsOfGood posted...
watch Vincent be a dlc

actually he most likely 100% is.....
He's in the game, but making him playable in a DLC makes sense in a weird way. Both him and Yuffie were the missable secret characters. Making them first playable in extra content is a way to continue that trend.

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Guns_of_Verdun
02/13/24 9:39:55 AM
#60:


Irony posted...
Lol

tripleh213 posted...
Seriously lol


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Raikuro
02/13/24 9:42:00 AM
#61:


Vincent will be playable while doing his own solo side adventure that happens concurrently with Rebirth. For only $19.99!
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Scarecrow17
02/13/24 9:42:10 AM
#62:


Square announced this already back in September


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Kibouno
02/13/24 10:02:21 AM
#63:


"Vincent is not going to be your Valentine." - Square Enix, 2024.
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Azn_Psycho
02/13/24 10:05:59 AM
#64:


Wake me up when they sell these games as a single one.

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AceMos
02/13/24 10:09:08 AM
#65:


we already knew this

its very clear SE had no plans for this remake from the start


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Jupiter
02/13/24 10:12:36 AM
#66:


Azn_Psycho posted...
Wake me up when they sell these games as a single one.
A few people are saying they want this on the Rebirth board, but I really don't think it's happening. They'd have to change up a lot of stuff. Since Remake and Rebirth already have different mechanics. I'm not saying it's an impossible task to do, but rather Square Enix won't bother with it as I doubt they would see a high return on investment.

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AceMos
02/13/24 10:15:07 AM
#67:


Jupiter posted...
A few people are saying they want this on the Rebirth board, but I really don't think it's happening. They'd have to change up a lot of stuff. Since Remake and Rebirth already have different mechanics. I'm not saying it's an impossible task to do, but rather Square Enix won't bother with it as I doubt they would see a high return on investment.
they will bundle all 3 games together as a trilogy edition eventually


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AceMos
02/13/24 10:15:36 AM
#68:


oh also reminder none of your levels equipment materia relationship values sidequests NOTHING carries over

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Jupiter
02/13/24 10:17:34 AM
#69:


AceMos posted...
they will bundle all 3 games together as a trilogy edition eventually
Oh, a bundle for sure will happen. But some people were asking for one continuous game.

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SilvosForever
02/13/24 10:18:25 AM
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This has been known for like a year, no?

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CARRRNE_ASADA
02/13/24 10:19:55 AM
#71:


They stated no Intergrade like DLC since they want everybody working on the 3rd title. I imagine theyd like to finish the title by the games 30th year anniversary on 2027.

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AceMos
02/13/24 10:20:21 AM
#72:


Jupiter posted...
Oh, a bundle for sure will happen. But some people were asking for one continuous game.
no but what will happen is for the PS7 SE will make a tech demo showing the FF7 opening redone

this will lead fans to demanding a remake of the remake

then come the PS8 SE will anounce FF7 REremake which will just be everything up until cloud meets arieth

and fans will defend this saying how important this part of the story is so it makes sense to expand it into a full game


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AceMos
02/13/24 10:20:49 AM
#73:


CARRRNE_ASADA posted...
They stated no Intergrade like DLC since they want everybody working on the 3rd title. I imagine theyd like to finish the title by the games 30th year anniversary on 2027.
you actually trust what SE says

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Sir_Will
02/13/24 10:23:27 AM
#74:


AceMos posted...
you actually trust what SE says
No reason not to.

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CARRRNE_ASADA
02/13/24 10:23:34 AM
#75:


Jupiter posted...
Oh, a bundle for sure will happen. But some people were asking for one continuous game.


The game is already 150 GB and its huge. PS1 games were just a bunch of polygons and a dozen of prerendered backgrounds so you could go crazy with the story and the places you go. Translating all that into 3D assets, plus the mo cap, voice acting, added content...its not rational to expect it into one single game. Maybe a nice remaster, but not on this scale of graphical fidelity.

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CARRRNE_ASADA
02/13/24 10:24:28 AM
#76:


AceMos posted...
you actually trust what SE says


Just relaying news from interviews.

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AceMos
02/13/24 10:25:57 AM
#77:


CARRRNE_ASADA posted...
The game is already 150 GB and its huge. PS1 games were just a bunch of polygons and a dozens of prerendered background so you could go crazy with the story and the places you go. Translating all that into 3D assets, plus the mo cap, voice acting, added content...its not rational to expect it into one single game. Maybe a nice remaster, but not on this scale of graphical fidelity.
xenoblade outside of X can do this exact scenario just fine

create massive worlds to explore and tell a full complete stor

and hell even X still does still tell a complete story it just ends on a cliff hanger setting up a sequel but its own internal plot is resolved


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CARRRNE_ASADA
02/13/24 10:32:55 AM
#78:


AceMos posted...
xenoblade outside of X can do this exact scenario just fine

create massive worlds to explore and tell a full complete stor

and hell even X still does still tell a complete story it just ends on a cliff hanger setting up a sequel but its own internal plot is resolved

Thats where we go back to graphical fidelity and overall production values in which the FF7 remakes are much much higher than xenoblades. According to Square, Remake had a budget of 150 mill. Of course this has no bearing on how good a game is.


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voldothegr8
02/13/24 10:36:41 AM
#79:


They have to save something for DLC or the next part they're milking people for.

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ScazarMeltex
02/13/24 10:38:39 AM
#80:


BearlyWilling posted...
this has been known for months.
BUT WE WANNA SCREECH ABOUT IT NOW \caps.

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AceMos
02/13/24 10:41:43 AM
#81:


CARRRNE_ASADA posted...
Thats where we go back to graphical fidelity and overall production values in which the FF7 remakes are much much higher than xenoblades. According to Square, Remake had a budget of 150 mill. Of course this has no bearing on how good a game is.
then sounds like SE is severally mismanaged

whcih yea they are have been for years

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Cobra1010
02/13/24 10:42:18 AM
#82:


PlEaSe LoOk FoRwArD tO pArT 3

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hyperpowder
02/13/24 10:45:53 AM
#83:


Dont you get Vincent before going to the Golden Saucer? For some reason the Golden Saucer in my mind took place late game in the original FF7

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mach25687
02/13/24 10:46:47 AM
#84:


Final Fantasy VII Survivor (Hack)


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Smackems
02/13/24 10:47:45 AM
#85:


That's fine. I get why they're doing it. To have new characters to play in part 3

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Smackems
02/13/24 10:48:10 AM
#86:


hyperpowder posted...
Dont you get Vincent before going to the Golden Saucer? For some reason the Golden Saucer in my mind took place late game in the original FF7
Because you return to it a little later

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Kain_Highwind
02/13/24 10:49:54 AM
#87:


AceMos posted...
oh also reminder none of your levels equipment materia relationship values sidequests NOTHING carries over
That's not a big deal

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Jerry_Hellyeah
02/13/24 10:50:02 AM
#88:


Man they realllly don't like fans of the original, huh?

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voldothegr8
02/13/24 10:51:51 AM
#89:


Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Man they realllly don't like fans of the original, huh?
They LOVE fans of the original, easily milked for fat stacks of cash. Which is why you'll get the other characters in part 3.

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Cobra1010
02/13/24 10:52:17 AM
#90:


Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Man they realllly don't like fans of the original, huh?

They've learnt that they can shit in their fans faces and the fans will still gladly pay up.

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Kain_Highwind
02/13/24 10:53:20 AM
#91:


Cobra1010 posted...
They've learnt that they can shit in their fans faces and the fans will still gladly pay up.
First game was a 9/10 and this one looks even better

"Shitting in fans face"

BUT BAWWW ITS NOT THE EXACT SAME GAME EXCEPT WITH PRETTIER GRAPHICS no shit its a sequel

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Jerry_Hellyeah
02/13/24 10:54:01 AM
#92:


Kain_Highwind posted...
First game was a 9/10 and this one looks even better

"Shitting in fans face"

BUT BAWWW ITS NOT THE EXACT SAME GAME EXCEPT WITH PRETTIER GRAPHICS no shit its a sequel

Lol bro bro you can't get so hyped up on this stuff with that kind of name. It don't stick.

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itachi15243
02/13/24 10:56:48 AM
#93:


Man, this is such BS.

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Foppe
02/13/24 11:07:40 AM
#94:


hyperpowder posted...
Dont you get Vincent before going to the Golden Saucer? For some reason the Golden Saucer in my mind took place late game in the original FF7
You visit it twice storywise.

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MrMojoRising
02/13/24 11:08:27 AM
#95:


CARRRNE_ASADA posted...
They stated no Intergrade like DLC since they want everybody working on the 3rd title.

oooh

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kawalimus
02/13/24 11:09:43 AM
#96:


Unbelievably bad decision.
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Cobra1010
02/13/24 11:10:58 AM
#97:


Kain_Highwind posted...
First game was a 9/10 and this one looks even better

"Shitting in fans face"

BUT BAWWW ITS NOT THE EXACT SAME GAME EXCEPT WITH PRETTIER GRAPHICS no shit its a sequel

Thanks for the valuable example.

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Guns_of_Verdun
02/13/24 11:12:08 AM
#98:


Kain_Highwind posted...
First game was a 9/10

lol no

Just the opening area and running down generic corridors for hours is not a 9/10

FF7R had more filler than 500 word essay on the pros and cons of Ocean Grey vs Miltiary Grey

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AceMos
02/13/24 11:14:09 AM
#99:


Guns_of_Verdun posted...
lol no

Just the opening area and running down generic corridors for hours is not a 9/10

FF7R had more filler than 500 word essay on the pros and cons of Ocean Grey vs Miltiary Grey
the problem is for all the talk of expanding things 7R really does not do much

it gives jessie a bit more character

but beyond that its just expanding what was 2 or 3 screens in the original into a large dungeon

or adding in a bunch of side quests (which we now know where pointless as none of that carries over)

edit: oh and it adds in the confusing meta sequel stuff that reveals the original game was a bad ending

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Smackems
02/13/24 11:17:26 AM
#100:


Jupiter posted...
Oh, a bundle for sure will happen. But some people were asking for one continuous game.
I bet they will tinker with some shit to make the final big edition like that. Where it's all one giant game with progress carrying between the parts. Seems like the no brainer thing to do with the eventual "remaster"

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