Current Events > There's a circumcision protest happening right now

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Zelduh posted...

We should remove eyelids at birth, blinking insults my God because it implies you're not looking at God and trying to avoid him and also eyelids are filthy and get gunk and make the eyeball unclean and also I like how it looks and my dad had his eyelids removed and he got all the ladies and my mom thought it was hot

Won't somebody please think of the eyelid cancer rates!

Zelduh posted...

We should remove eyelids at birth, blinking insults my God because it implies you're not looking at God and trying to avoid him and also eyelids are filthy and get gunk and make the eyeball unclean and also I like how it looks and my dad had his eyelids removed and he got all the ladies and my mom thought it was hot

Peculiar strawman, to be honest. Eyelids perform a necessary function, and there's no health benefit to having them removed.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Peculiar strawman, to be honest. Eyelids perform a necessary function, and there's no health benefit to having them removed.

Foreskins perform a necessary function, and there's no health benefit to having them removed.

Zelduh posted...

Foreskins perform a necessary function, and there's no health benefit to having them removed.

But didn't you know the average American has no access to clean water or soap? Didn't you know 90% of Europe has penis cancer and HIV???!!

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Great, now you convince me this is some kind of twisted Pinky and the Brain scheme going on.

Zelduh posted...

We should remove eyelids at birth, blinking insults my God because it implies you're not looking at God and trying to avoid him and also eyelids are filthy and get gunk and make the eyeball unclean and also I like how it looks and my dad had his eyelids removed and he got all the ladies and my mom thought it was hot

Can we instead of this. Raise children without the idea or belief of God for a generation. Only give them the option to know or study or perform religious rights after they are legal age?

hockeybabe89 posted...

Didn't you know 90% of Europe has penis cancer and HIV???!!

Gobbie's never going to address this.

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wym secret
foreskin facials have been publicized for like a decade lol
and that CDC report ppl keep citing ITT has been peer reviewed by multiple sources and found to be incredibly biased in favor of doctors making money from circumcisions

The CDC released a pro-circumcision policy in 2014. They requested a review by Robert Van Howe.
His main criticisms were:
lack of scientific and scholarly rigor
lack of attention to detail
disregard for the medical evidence
lack of a thorough discussion of the foreskin
out of step with the rest of the world
took over seven years
counterfactual, incomplete, and biased
His more specific criticisms were:
cites reviews and opinions, not data
outdated citations
no look at cons
ignores 96% of PubMed medical literature
assumes 3 African HIV trials are unbiased
if graduate student submitted, a failing grade
incorrect, redundant citations
misspellings
works from conclusions to facts
no foreskin anatomy or function
unrevised over seven years of writing
deliberate misinformation
focuses on HIV studies from Africa, not the US
non-medical focus
Most interesting is the fact that in 2007, the CDC invited nearly all of the world's top pro-circumcision experts (50+ people) to attend a consultation. Only one token invitee had published papers against circumcision. The same thing happened that year when the WHO recommended circumcision for HIV.
The rest of the review goes into detail about the policy's many flaws but it's clear that the CDC has an agenda in pushing circumcision.
https://www.academia.edu/10553782/A_CDC-requested_Evidence-based_Critique_of_the_Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Prevention_2014
_Draft_on_Male_Circumcision_How_Ideology_and_Selective_Science_Lead_to_Superficial_Culturally-biased_Recommendations_by_the_CDC

literally has nearly 100 pages of citations lol

I hope at least one person has made the "A protest about circumcision? I hope it doesn't get cut short" joke by now because I don't feel like going through 300+ posts to find out.

I'm not circumcised but I support banning the practice and saving future babies from being harmed

ArsGoetia posted...

biased in favor of doctors making money from circumcisions

I had no idea they make money off it. No wonder it's heavily promoted. Now it makes so much sense

Zikten posted...

I had no idea they make money off it. No wonder it's heavily promoted. Now it makes so much sense

Pharmaceutical companies too, it's used in skincare products

Zikten posted...

I'm not circumcised but I support banning the practice and saving future babies from being harmed

Unfortunately that view will get you labeled as anti Semitic and Islamophobic, as demonstrated by Iceland's attempt to ban infant circumcision a few years back.

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I'll eventually collect enough foreskins to make a very malleable foreskin ghillie suit.

Thermador446 posted...

Apparently, the protest has been cut short.

eeeeeeyyyy

Zelduh posted...

Foreskins perform a necessary function, and there's no health benefit to having them removed.

They're not necessary, and there are health benefits. So you're basically wrong about everything you just said.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

They're not necessary, and there are health benefits. So you're basically wrong about everything you just said.

Health benefits provided you don't live somewhere where you can buy soap.

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Cool it with the-- eh nevermind

hockeybabe89 posted...

Health benefits provided you don't live somewhere where you can buy soap.

You can downplay it with insulting and belittling language all you like, but it would be helpful if you stayed honest.

hockeybabe89 posted...

Didn't you know 90% of Europe has penis cancer and HIV???!!

Gobbie's going to continue to ignore this.

DrizztLink posted...

Gobbie's going to continue to ignore this.

I've already been over this.

"It's a pretty low chance" isn't exactly a gotcha argument against preventative procedures.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

I've already been over this.

"It's a pretty low chance" isn't exactly a gotcha argument against preventative procedures.

If you don't understand basic epidemiology, sure.

Is Gob a slang for foreskin?

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See below

On what grounds and justification?

That they didn't ask to be born.

Then why are you bringing it up if not to try to justify a violation of bodily autonomy against someone who can't consent?

Because several parts of the birthing process can be construed that way, but we out practicality over this in their case.

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It was one guy lol, I honestly don't know what he was on about

Anyway, I would strongly advise all parents to get their children circumcised as early as possible.

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The parents consent, so it's a consensual procedure.

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The explanation is pure unadulterated copium.

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I guess your post is a behind the scenes post.

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Are you sure? Because parents have always been able to consent for their children in terms of medical treatments.

Male circumcision is absolutely incomparable in every single way imaginable to female genital mutilation.

Source: I'm circumcised myself.

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Most of the people who do this shit exhibit this behavior regardless of the topic they post in, so make of that what you will

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Anyway, I would strongly advise all parents to get their children circumcised as early as possible.

I would strongly advise you to shut the fuck up. Maybe you should advise them to teach children to clean their entire body in the shower.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

I've already been over this.

"It's a pretty low chance" isn't exactly a gotcha argument against preventative procedures.

So we should cut off as much of the body of infants as we are able just in case they don't clean well enough and become part of the pretty low chance of whatever health problem?

Like it's pretty fucking nonsensical to argue for prophylactic surgical procedures at all, let alone on babies.

Dentists don't rip everyone's wisdom teeth out as soon as possible. And wisdom teeth only exist to either be invisible or a problem.

Zwijn posted...

Baptism

baptism is stupid too

children shouldn't be indoctrinated into cults

hockeybabe89 posted...

So we should cut off as much of the body of infants as we are able

Nah, just the foreskin. It doesn't serve a purpose and it's better for the health of a person if it's removed.

hockeybabe89 posted...

I would strongly advise you to shut the fuck up

Okay. You can advise me all day but I'm not gonna do it.

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Don't forget, apparently it's also PC/Woke to be anti-circumcision. But that's how a lot of these circumcision topics go. The pro-circumcision doesn't really have logic on its side so they have to bring up superficial things like "it looks better" as a counter argument.

BTW I'm circumcized and I am absolutely against circumcising babies.

Prestoff posted...

Don't forget, apparently it's also PC/Woke to be anti-circumcision. But that's how a lot of these circumcision topics go. The pro-circumcision doesn't really have logic on its side so they have to bring up superficial things like "it looks better" as a counter argument.

BTW I'm circumcized and I am absolutely against circumcising babies.

Those thoughts don't go well around here, best keep moving on stranger. Lmao

thronedfire2 posted...

baptism is stupid too

children shouldn't be indoctrinated into cults

that's another can of worms, most people believe in a certain religions not because they actually chose to believe that religion but because they born and grew in that religion

Also, "it looks better" is all relative. As an all natural kind of guy, first time I saw porn I thought the man had some horrifying disease. I didn't understand. I had never seen any friends naked growing up

I still think uncut looks better. Everyone likes what they are used to seeing when they look down

Zikten posted...

Also, "it looks better" is all relative. As an all natural kind of guy, first time I saw porn I thought the man had some horrifying disease. I didn't understand. I had never seen any friends naked growing up

I still think uncut looks better. Everyone likes what they are used to seeing when they look down

*looks down*
*sees belly*