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NeonBoobs
02/09/24 2:44:10 PM
#200:


Cemith posted...


lmao I cant do that. Nor can I dock with everyone either. My docking options are limited to uncut dicks only

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Dark_Arbron
02/09/24 2:44:48 PM
#201:


JoeDangIt posted...
The benefits seem minimal and even though complications are rare they can be devastating, why is this even something that we do in the first place?

Enclave posted...
Because John Harvey Kellogg (If you're looking at that last name, yes, not a coincidence) thought it would stop boys from masturbating.

In other words, religion. It's always been religion. It's no different than opposition to homosexuality and abortion, and many who hold such beliefs absolutely refuse to admit it.

I wonder where humanity would be had it not been held back these past two thousand years.

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Zeeak4444
02/09/24 2:46:37 PM
#202:


Jupiter posted...
Can't have dirty fingernails if you chop your fingertips off. >_>

i think the more apt analogy would be cutting fingernails off to avoid dirty finger nails.

No ones cutting off the tip of a penis

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Jupiter
02/09/24 2:48:36 PM
#203:


Darkinsanity1 posted...
I can agree with this also and admit that the only real reason I am for circumcision is because I prefer the way they look far more.

The part I find most frustrating is that circumcision is becoming a hot topic and is being done less now than before and it's largely because of PC bullshit. Don't overthink it because of woke nonsense, just do your kid a favor and have it done when they're a baby.

Ultimately I wish evolution would hurry up and foreskin would just disappear, now that would be the perfect dick, no scar tissue(though it mostly blends in unless you look for it or it was botched).
Fucking lol at calling this PC and woke.

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KI_Simpson
02/09/24 2:51:23 PM
#204:


NeonBoobs posted...
Definitely. People are really passionate about dick hoods >_>
No one would care if some people were just born with the equivalent of circumcized penises, the issue is that people claim it's okay to perform cosmetic surgery on an infant's genitals, take the choice away from people, and mock people if they don't have that cosmetic surgery done.

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Zwijn
02/09/24 2:52:18 PM
#205:


Jupiter posted...
Fucking lol at calling this PC and woke.
Die Amis always need a new defense for mutilating babies.
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Dark_Arbron
02/09/24 2:52:21 PM
#206:


KI_Simpson posted...
No one would care if some people were just born with the equivalent of circumcized penises, the issue is that people claim it's okay to perform cosmetic surgery on an infant's genitals, take the choice away from people, and mock people if they don't have that cosmetic surgery done.

I think Neon should just stick to his gimmick and be thankful he hasn't been ousted the way his twin brother Vegy was.

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willythemailboy
02/09/24 2:55:51 PM
#207:


Smallville posted...
is u.s. the top country by percentage for this? What if just very industrialized countries it might be the top? wonder why.
The US is the only industrialized country where circumcision is prevalent, aside from Israel for the obvious reason. The US is between 70% and 80%, and the next highest industrialized country is New Zealand at 33%

The Muslim world and oddly enough the Philippines are higher than the US.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/circumcision-by-country

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Darkinsanity1
02/09/24 2:56:36 PM
#208:


Jupiter posted...
Fucking lol at calling this PC and woke.
It absolutely is though, all these people saying "let them make their own choice when they're older." Who the hell is going to do that unless medically necessary, when by that point they're completely used to their foreskin. Debating whether it's wrong etc, all just stupid bullshit. PC crap is 100% in play for this issue.

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willythemailboy
02/09/24 2:58:52 PM
#209:


Zeeak4444 posted...
i think the more apt analogy would be cutting fingernails off to avoid dirty finger nails.

No ones cutting off the tip of a penis
Fingernails grow back, unless you're ripping out the root and burning it with acid to prevent regrowth the way they do for ingrown toenails.

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KI_Simpson
02/09/24 2:59:18 PM
#210:


Darkinsanity1 posted...
It absolutely is though, all these people saying "let them make their own choice when they're older." Who the hell is going to do that unless medically necessary, when by that point they're completely used to their foreskin. Debating whether it's wrong etc, all just stupid bullshit. PC crap is 100% in play for this issue.
Believing "no one would actually choose it" is more reason not to do it to someone as an infant, how the fucking hell can you not see that?

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ai123
02/09/24 2:59:54 PM
#211:


Darkinsanity1 posted...
Who the hell is going to do that unless medically necessary, when by that point they're completely used to their foreskin.

Well, quite.

That's the point.


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Gobstoppers12
02/09/24 3:00:38 PM
#212:


KI_Simpson posted...
cosmetic surgery
It's not just cosmetic, though. It has recognized health benefits.

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Hospy
02/09/24 3:00:51 PM
#213:


Darkinsanity1 posted...
Who the hell is going to do that unless medically necessary, when by that point they're completely used to their foreskin.
lol
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Darkinsanity1
02/09/24 3:01:08 PM
#214:


KI_Simpson posted...
Believing "no one would actually choose it" is more reason not to do it to someone as an infant, how the fucking hell can you not see that?
No, the other reason not to do it when you're older is because it's far more painful and difficult to heal from. As an infant, you'll never remember it. You don't move around nearly as much so the friction isn't an issue, they probably heal faster in general too.

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willythemailboy
02/09/24 3:01:15 PM
#215:


Darkinsanity1 posted...
It absolutely is though, all these people saying "let them make their own choice when they're older." Who the hell is going to do that unless medically necessary, when by that point they're completely used to their foreskin. Debating whether it's wrong etc, all just stupid bullshit. PC crap is 100% in play for this issue.
It's almost as if that's the fucking point.

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hockeybabe89
02/09/24 3:01:21 PM
#216:


Darkinsanity1 posted...
Who the hell is going to do that unless medically necessary, when by that point they're completely used to their foreskin
"unless it's medically neccessary"

So you're literally arguing we need to give every male child cosmetic surgery before they are old enough to consent or remember the ordeal because... why? Like you're actually horrified at the prospect of someone leaving their foreskin alone if it doesn't become a medical issue.

How adamant are you about removing the appendix and the small toe of all human babies?

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Zwijn
02/09/24 3:02:18 PM
#218:


Darkinsanity1 posted...
It absolutely is though, all these people saying "let them make their own choice when they're older." Who the hell is going to do that unless medically necessary, when by that point they're completely used to their foreskin. Debating whether it's wrong etc, all just stupid bullshit. PC crap is 100% in play for this issue.
NOOOO the wokies want to stop me from
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Dark_Arbron
02/09/24 3:02:21 PM
#219:


Darkinsanity1 posted...
No, the other reason not to do it when you're older is because it's far more painful and difficult to heal from. As an infant, you'll never remember it. You don't move around nearly as much so the friction isn't an issue, they probably heal faster in general too.

The same could be said for amputating a limb. If you're going to try and justify circumcision at least go with the "health benefits" angle instead of just hand waving it as "well, they won't remember anyway" like that matters.

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Dark_Arbron
02/09/24 3:03:15 PM
#220:


hockeybabe89 posted...
How adamant are you about removing the appendix and the small toe of all human babies?

Probably not at all given these people are religious fanatics.

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willythemailboy
02/09/24 3:03:29 PM
#221:


Darkinsanity1 posted...
No, the other reason not to do it when you're older is because it's far more painful and difficult to heal from. As an infant, you'll never remember it. You don't move around nearly as much so the friction isn't an issue, they probably heal faster in general too.
Also a lot easier to die from.

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Gobstoppers12
02/09/24 3:07:11 PM
#222:


willythemailboy posted...
Also a lot easier to die from.
Die from what?

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hockeybabe89
02/09/24 3:07:33 PM
#223:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
It's not just cosmetic, though. It has recognized health benefits.
Why isn't the majority of the developed world just a hellhole of penis cancer and like a 90% HIV rate then?

Your mouth and in between your toes can become nasty areas full of germs and disease, but we advocate for cleaning, not removing things so they can't become dirty and neglected.

Is this some weird connection to those polls where it turns out lots of people don't know how to bathe and just kind of let the water and soap run down 2/3 of their body?

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KI_Simpson
02/09/24 3:09:14 PM
#224:


Darkinsanity1 posted...
No, the other reason not to do it when you're older is because it's far more painful and difficult to heal from. As an infant, you'll never remember it. You don't move around nearly as much so the friction isn't an issue, they probably heal faster in general too.
You did not in any way contradict my argument, you have no argument for it needing to be done to infants besides reactionary hatred of "woke." Ironically, 10+ years ago there were plenty of hypocrites claiming to be what you would consider "woke" who had a similar position to you, supporting infant circumcision for no real reason besides a refusal to acknowledge that gender roles/institutional sexism could hurt people who were AMAB.

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Darkinsanity1
02/09/24 3:10:56 PM
#225:


Dark_Arbron posted...
The same could be said for amputating a limb. If you're going to try and justify circumcision at least go with the "health benefits" angle instead of just hand waving it as "well, they won't remember anyway" like that matters.
As if your comparison to losing a limb is any less stupid? At least I'm honest about my motivations. I don't care for false bullshit.

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ai123
02/09/24 3:14:02 PM
#226:


There's been some crazy bullshit in this thread, but I think with 'the woke is coming for my circumcision!' It has reached an almost admirably surreal level of stupidity

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hockeybabe89
02/09/24 3:14:46 PM
#227:


Casual reminder that circumcision is some bullshit religious ceremony that we're retroactively trying to justify. Also, outside of America and South Korea, it is mostly done in underdeveloped nations that have poor access to clean water and adequate healthcare, so it actually would be beneficial in those countries.

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Darkinsanity1
02/09/24 3:17:37 PM
#228:


KI_Simpson posted...
You did not in any way contradict my argument, you have no argument for it needing to be done to infants besides reactionary hatred of "woke." Ironically, 10+ years ago there were plenty of hypocrites claiming to be what you would consider "woke" who had a similar position to you, supporting infant circumcision for no real reason besides a refusal to acknowledge that gender roles/institutional sexism could hurt people who were AMAB.
My reasoning is more based upon the fact that I like the way circumcised penis looks and "woke-ism" a colloquial term if you will, is trying to change it and I dislike it and the reasoning behind it. Simple as that. I find foreskin unattractive.

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KI_Simpson
02/09/24 3:19:20 PM
#229:


Darkinsanity1 posted...
My reasoning is more based upon the fact that I like the way circumcised penis looks and "woke-ism" a colloquial term if you will, is trying to change it and I dislike it and the reasoning behind it. Simple as that. I find foreskin unattractive.
Admitting you want to perform cosmetic surgery on infants because you think it makes their penis more attractive doesn't justify wanting to perform cosmetic surgery on infants because you think it makes their penis more attractive.

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Enclave
02/09/24 3:27:33 PM
#230:


Darkinsanity1 posted...
My reasoning is more based upon the fact that I like the way circumcised penis looks and "woke-ism" a colloquial term if you will, is trying to change it and I dislike it and the reasoning behind it. Simple as that. I find foreskin unattractive.

Why exactly do you want parents to make their children's dicks more visually appealing to you?

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Darkinsanity1
02/09/24 3:30:00 PM
#231:


Yeah okay, done responding to that nonsense. I said my reasoning, as a gay guy I prefer the way cirumcised dicks look and I think circumcision should stay.


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Enclave
02/09/24 3:31:27 PM
#232:


Darkinsanity1 posted...
Yeah okay, done responding to that nonsense. I said my reasoning, as a gay guy I prefer the way cirumcised dicks look and I think circumcision should stay.

Nonsense? You're the one creeping people the fuck out.

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Smallville
02/09/24 3:31:46 PM
#233:


willythemailboy posted...
The US is the only industrialized country where circumcision is prevalent, aside from Israel for the obvious reason. The US is between 70% and 80%, and the next highest industrialized country is New Zealand at 33%

The Muslim world and oddly enough the Philippines are higher than the US.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/circumcision-by-country
Why do most of you believe the u.s. percentage is so much higher than other industrialized countries though? Had no idea the gap was that large between 2nd.

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KI_Simpson
02/09/24 3:31:57 PM
#234:


Darkinsanity1 posted...
Yeah okay, done responding to that nonsense. I said my reasoning, as a gay guy I prefer the way cirumcised dicks look and I think circumcision should stay.
Again, admitting you want a permanent choice made for infants who can't consent because you're afraid they wouldn't modify their genitalia to be more pleasing to you as adults is not a logical or moral argument just because you admitted it.

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KI_Simpson
02/09/24 3:34:28 PM
#235:


Smallville posted...
Why do most of you believe the u.s. percentage is so much higher than other industrialized countries though? Had no idea the gap was that large between 2nd.
I'm pretty sure the gap is a lot smaller for children born now/recently, as opposed to total percentages of people who have penises. As mentioned earlier, there was a propaganda campaign to convince American parents to have it done over a century ago, and it became a cultural norm due to that. More liberal areas are less likely to have it done.

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hockeybabe89
02/09/24 3:35:22 PM
#236:


Darkinsanity1 posted...
Yeah okay, done responding to that nonsense. I said my reasoning, as a gay guy I prefer the way cirumcised dicks look and I think circumcision should stay.
Well I guess it's okay to say "If you don't get circumcised as a baby, you're not going to want to unless it's medically necessary" if you admit you're gay!

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ai123
02/09/24 3:37:43 PM
#237:


On an unrelated note, how lucrative a business is circumcision?

What do US hospitals charge for the procedure?

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Prestoff
02/09/24 3:38:11 PM
#238:


2024 is pretty wild when being anti-circumcision is somehow being woke/PC. You learn new things everyday I guess lol.

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Jupiter
02/09/24 3:38:47 PM
#239:


ai123 posted...
On an unrelated note, how lucrative a business is circumcision?

What do US hospitals charge for the procedure?
I think my partner said her cousin got it done for her son and it was 1000s? Like somewhere between 1-3k. Don't remember if that was before or after insurance.

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ai123
02/09/24 3:42:04 PM
#240:


Darkinsanity1 posted...
My reasoning is more based upon the fact that I like the way circumcised penis looks and "woke-ism" a colloquial term if you will, is trying to change it and I dislike it and the reasoning behind it. Simple as that. I find foreskin unattractive.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/241616dd.jpg

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Gobstoppers12
02/09/24 3:44:29 PM
#241:


hockeybabe89 posted...
some bullshit religious ceremony that we're retroactively trying to justify
You don't have to argue against legitimate medical procedures just because the procedure also has a connection to some religious traditions.

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ai123
02/09/24 3:52:05 PM
#242:


Jupiter posted...
I think my partner said her cousin got it done for her son and it was 1000s? Like somewhere between 1-3k. Don't remember if that was before or after insurance.
Wow. OK.

I think the mystery behind the US being the anomaly amongst western developed nations is a little closer to a solution.

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Gwynevere
02/09/24 4:07:28 PM
#243:


Claiming it's woke to stop parents from getting elective cosmetic surgeries on their newborns is the peak insanity I expect to see when I come to CE

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brestugo
02/09/24 4:25:19 PM
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majin_nemesis
02/09/24 4:25:20 PM
#246:


Darkinsanity1 posted...
I can agree with this also and admit that the only real reason I am for circumcision is because I prefer the way they look far more.

The part I find most frustrating is that circumcision is becoming a hot topic and is being done less now than before and it's largely because of PC bullshit. Don't overthink it because of woke nonsense, just do your kid a favor and have it done when they're a baby.

Ultimately I wish evolution would hurry up and foreskin would just disappear, now that would be the perfect dick, no scar tissue(though it mostly blends in unless you look for it or it was botched).
what in the blue hell is this bs?

do you really want to mutilate a baby's penis just because you like how that looks? there's people out there that like scars should we cut a baby's face just because they like scars?

and since when is being against circumcision woke? and no you are doing the kids a favor by not mutilating their penis with a circumcision

also here's the thing evolution wants foreskins they are there to protect the penis and has health benefits

ai123 posted... On an unrelated note, how lucrative a business is circumcision?

What do US hospitals charge for the procedure?
no only the hospitals get money from the procedure companies pay them to get the foreskins for a lot of products
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thronedfire2
02/09/24 4:29:47 PM
#247:


ai123 posted...
Wow. OK.

I think the mystery behind the US being the anomaly amongst western developed nations is a little closer to a solution.

yeah at 3k per procedure it would be a few billion per year for the medical industry. even if only half of baby boys got cut

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NeonBoobs
02/09/24 4:33:49 PM
#248:


Then just take him to a bris then and slip the rabbi a $50 to do your kid too >_> Ez savings lol

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Giblet_Enjoyer
02/09/24 4:39:23 PM
#249:


KI_Simpson posted...
Encouraging cosmetic surgery on an infant's penis is really, really disturbing and yet it's the pro-circumcision side that likes to imply that having an opinion against it means you may be a predator.
This bears repeating. The fact people don't see the inherent sickness of performing cosmetic surgery on your baby's dick to make it look more like the porn dicks you're accustomed to seeing is pretty worrying

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ArsGoetia
02/09/24 4:41:45 PM
#250:


is this the day when i contemplate why i have so many foreskin memes?

not today, j-man

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