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Dakimakura
02/08/24 11:32:28 AM
#51:


voldothegr8 posted...
Costanza is literally a caricature of Larry David, he has always been this way.

Oh sorry, what I meant to say is that he is looking more like the actor who portrayed the character George Costanza.


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bigblu89
02/08/24 11:33:58 AM
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I was traumatized at 13 by Wil doing a dog shit job trying to play the son of a Mafia boss in Toy Soldiers, but you dont see me ranting about it online.

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TimeForAction
02/08/24 11:38:05 AM
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will clearly has unresolved issues of his own
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CountCorvinus
02/08/24 11:49:22 AM
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The part about Wil's shitty father makes his reaction understandable.

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GunmaN1905
02/08/24 11:56:13 AM
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First episode of final Curb season was so good, I saw the glasses incident from a mile away, lmao.
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alphagamble
02/08/24 11:56:40 AM
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This man is over 50 years old



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cjsdowg
02/08/24 11:57:12 AM
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I am so Torn. Ibhate Larry David and I find Wil annoying. But honestly I want to side with Will but that was just way over the top. Also fuck Louie for not doing anything when his son was attacked.

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alfred_ashford
02/08/24 12:00:55 PM
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"My dad used to..." okay folks there it is. Sounds like he should just be in therapy instead of on twitter

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Hayame_Zero
02/08/24 12:05:44 PM
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There is a word count threshold for social media posts where they can come of as unhinged, and he definitely passed that with this Facebook post.

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GeraldDarko
02/08/24 12:10:09 PM
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Wow, Will really thinks he's the center of the universe, doesn't he.

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VampireCoyote
02/08/24 12:22:15 PM
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What a dweeb

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ssb_yunglink2
02/08/24 12:35:34 PM
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DnDer posted...
Given how you think racist jokes are funny, I'm not surprised at your take over his reaction to David's bullshit.
You think Larry david doing on a bit about attacking fucking elmo is comparable to racist jokes? Do you think this unhinged rant was Larry Davids fault lmao

Wheatons reaction was ridiculous and I dont think racist jokes are funny.

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ssb_yunglink2
02/08/24 12:40:34 PM
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Bubbagump posted...
Wil Wheaton literally said he got triggered because that's the way his dad used to beat him as a kid (plus he loves the muppets). You may not agree with him, but it would take a complete lack of empathy not to recognize why this would be difficult for him to watch. Wil Wheaton has been pretty open about his abusive childhood, mental health struggles, and so forth. I think he gets a pass on this to feel however he wants.
You can have empathy for someones past circumstances and still think this nuclear level meltdown is ridiculously uncalled for.

You can feel a certain way about something without reacting like that

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Sheiky-Baby
02/08/24 12:43:03 PM
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Slow news day. I thought it was wholesome, and funny. And damn, Larry does not age. Than again, he looked 60 when he was 30.

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Jagr_68
02/08/24 12:43:22 PM
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I seriously can't tell if Wil is being a fucking dork here or just sarcastic.

Probably the former considering all the Nu Trek garbage content he moderates for CBS.

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Bubbagump
02/08/24 12:44:24 PM
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That's the thing about mental triggers though. Calm rational responses tend not to follow something that is so deeply affecting as child abuse. Wil was triggered, had a gut reaction that brought him back to his childhood, and used a widely available platform to post his immediate thoughts. Plenty of people use social media to post their immediate reactions and hot takes, whether well-thought or not. Wil is no different. Sometimes, it's ok to let people you disagree with have a moment, recognizing that they are coming from a completely different place than you. I stand by my point. Name-calling and attacking him for posting his initial reaction based on his own history of abuse shows a lack of empathy. Recognize he has a different view and drop the visceral hate.

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Mistere_Man
02/08/24 12:45:32 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v5B8NTLLJ98&pp=ygUTZWxtbyBvcmlnaW5hbCB2b2ljZQ%3D%3D

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ROBANN_88
02/08/24 12:50:12 PM
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i know "it's just a puppet" but i think Wheaton is right here
kids, (some who may be going through abuse at the time/in the past), are gonna see that and come away with the image of an old man assaulting Elmo for no reason

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Fluttershy
02/08/24 12:53:31 PM
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i think when people say that it's the news so kids wouldn't be watching it -- what if they advertised elmo being on it though, and maybe that lead some parents to go ooh. i can watch this shit with the kid and then they tune in and elmo is getting just thrashed to bits.

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ssb_yunglink2
02/08/24 12:53:41 PM
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Bubbagump posted...
That's the thing about mental triggers though. Calm rational responses tend not to follow something that is so deeply affecting as child abuse. Wil was triggered, had a gut reaction that brought him back to his childhood, and used a widely available platform to post his immediate thoughts. Plenty of people use social media to post their immediate reactions and hot takes, whether well-thought or not. Wil is no different. Sometimes, it's ok to let people you disagree with have a moment, recognizing that they are coming from a completely different place than you. I stand by my point. Name-calling and attacking him for posting his initial reaction based on his own history of abuse shows a lack of empathy. Recognize he has a different view and drop the visceral hate.
But his whole reaction is name calling and attacking larry david lmao. Its not like he typed out a calm statement that said he felt Larry Davids actions were triggering.

Being triggered doesnt make this rant any less unhinged even if you understand his past. Like if seeing that triggered him to the point where he instantly reacts like this, he needs serious help.

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Prestoff
02/08/24 12:54:56 PM
#72:


Wil Wheaton needs to touch grass.

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Zikten
02/08/24 12:57:28 PM
#73:


Fluttershy posted...
i think when people say that it's the news so kids wouldn't be watching it -- what if they advertised elmo being on it though, and maybe that lead some parents to go ooh. i can watch this shit with the kid and then they tune in and elmo is getting just thrashed to bits.
Exactly

Why would elmo even be there if they weren't promoting it for kids to watch? They do this from time to time. I remember in 2020 they had a special I think where some reporter taught Elmo about covid safety. There were commercials for a week, telling parents to show it to their kids.
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MrToothHasYou
02/08/24 12:58:27 PM
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One of my favorite moments in internet history was when Wil tried to join Mastodon and a trans woman (Mira Bellweather, RIP) bofa'd him so hard that he made a blog post swearing he was quitting social media altogether. He sucks so bad.

That said, I don't get what Larry was trying to do here. Seemed pointless and stupid.

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Darkinsanity1
02/08/24 1:00:31 PM
#76:


radical_rhino posted...
Holy shit. I had no idea Wheaton was such a gigantic baby-back bitch.

Lol this.

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02/08/24 1:01:54 PM
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ssb_yunglink2
02/08/24 1:01:56 PM
#77:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

yes, exactly this. If seeing elmo get manhandled for like 5 seconds sends him into this much of a frenzy, then he genuinely needs to seek help.


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Jiek_Fafn
02/08/24 1:05:01 PM
#78:


Reminder that Elmo was once on Rove and talked about being covered in piss and turning orange. All of Elmos Rove interviews are great. Go watch them

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Bubbagump
02/08/24 1:05:57 PM
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See, again, the dude was abused as a kid and got triggered by seeing an adult man-handle a representation of his childhood safe space. He got triggered and had a triggered reaction. So by your reasoning, if we take this to its logical conclusion, everyone responding with name-calling and attacks must have also got triggered. But somehow, I feel like them hating on a person for having an explosive response carries a little less weight compared to the person who actually had a good reason to be triggered. This isn't the triggering olympics here where we have to compare traumas. But I'm willing to extend a little more grace to the guy who got abused as a kid.

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Fluttershy
02/08/24 1:13:20 PM
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There were commercials for a week, telling parents to show it to their kids.

come watch elmo get the fuckin stiffarm of the century

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C_Pain
02/08/24 1:17:34 PM
#82:


cjsdowg posted...
I am so Torn. Ibhate Larry David and I find Wil annoying. But honestly I want to side with Will but that was just way over the top. Also fuck Louie for not doing anything when his son was attacked.
How do you hate Larry David?

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ssb_yunglink2
02/08/24 1:20:25 PM
#83:


Wheaton also said he knew it was gonna upset him if he watched, it and then watched it anyway. If you have a trigger that activates from something this benign then you shouldnt be purposely watching content you know will trigger you.

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Bubbagump
02/08/24 1:21:03 PM
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Actually, I completely agree. It doesn't give him free-reign to lash out, to name call or anything like that. I also agree, he would benefit from better coping strategies or counseling. These are extremely valid points! What I take issue with is people lashing out in response with their own hateful responses. I think there's a difference between recognizing that someone has a trauma-based reaction and disagreeing with it, saying he went too far, versus straight up belittling him, name-calling, and otherwise being hateful.

There is plenty of space to disagree with someone and not resort to hateful attacks. Wil Wheaton chose not to do this. But that doesn't mean he deserves all the hateful comments right back at him. One reaction is coming from a place of trauma and need for therapy. Another reaction is coming from being an anonymous online persona and hating on a person (Wil) who's popular to hate on. I'm gonna go back to my first comment. Let Wil have his moment, recognizing it's based in trauma, and be the bigger person and not resort to hateful comebacks.

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mario2000
02/08/24 1:22:39 PM
#85:


No one is making fun of Wil Wheaton for being abused as a kid. People make fun of him because he is an insufferable doofus.

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Nemu
02/08/24 1:25:55 PM
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Bubbagump posted...
Actually, I completely agree. It doesn't give him free-reign to lash out, to name call or anything like that. I also agree, he would benefit from better coping strategies or counseling. These are extremely valid points! What I take issue with is people lashing out in response with their own hateful responses. I think there's a difference between recognizing that someone has a trauma-based reaction and disagreeing with it, saying he went too far, versus straight up belittling him, name-calling, and otherwise being hateful. There is plenty of space to disagree with someone and not resort to hateful attacks. Wil Wheaton chose not to do this. But that doesn't mean he deserves all the hateful comments right back at him. One reaction is coming from a place of trauma and need for therapy. Another reaction is coming from being an anonymous online persona and hating on a person (Wil) who's popular to hate on. I'm gonna go back to my first comment. Let Wil have his moment, recognizing it's based in trauma, and be the bigger person and not resort to hateful comebacks.
I think the main thing is that it's so insanely overblown in proportion to the "incident" that it's comical in its own right, irrespective of the reasoning behind it. You can give some leeway when someone has an emotional episode, but that only goes so far.
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Bubbagump
02/08/24 1:33:18 PM
#88:


Nemu posted...
I think the main thing is that it's so insanely overblown in proportion to the "incident" that it's comical in its own right, irrespective of the reasoning behind it. You can give some leeway when someone has an emotional episode, but that only goes so far.

Isn't that the nature of a triggered response though?

In essence, Wil called Larry a tone-deaf a-hole, disclosed his own trauma, said Larry's actions were unforgiveable, name-called again, attacked him for potentially harming children who would watch the segment, said Larry's show was bad, and said people would remember Elmo more than Larry. Is it overblown? Sure. Does he make some points? I think objectively he does. Was it delivered in the best way possible? No. Could it have been worse? Probably.

Again, I'm not excusing Wil's comments. I'm just saying, recognize a trauma reaction when you see it, call it out if you must, but do it in a more reasonable way than what you're accusing Wil Wheaton of doing. Or just ignore it and move on because one person's trauma response shouldn't get people so hate-filled and riled up.

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TrashCanNumber2
02/08/24 2:04:13 PM
#89:


a 51 year old man left "literally shaking" due to a puppet on tv. JFC.
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02/08/24 2:07:00 PM
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*looks at first post*

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hereforemnant
02/08/24 2:10:37 PM
#91:


K181 posted...
Man, that's a whole lot of typing over literally nothing.


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Iyami
02/08/24 2:14:22 PM
#92:


mario2000 posted...
Yes I'm sure Larry David and the Today Show planned this out to attack him specifically.
I have difficulty believing the today show planned to have someone attack a children's show character
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ssb_yunglink2
02/08/24 2:29:25 PM
#94:


Bubbagump posted...
Isn't that the nature of a triggered response though?

In essence, Wil called Larry a tone-deaf a-hole, disclosed his own trauma, said Larry's actions were unforgiveable, name-called again, attacked him for potentially harming children who would watch the segment, said Larry's show was bad, and said people would remember Elmo more than Larry. Is it overblown? Sure. Does he make some points? I think objectively he does. Was it delivered in the best way possible? No. Could it have been worse? Probably.

Again, I'm not excusing Wil's comments. I'm just saying, recognize a trauma reaction when you see it, call it out if you must, but do it in a more reasonable way than what you're accusing Wil Wheaton of doing. Or just ignore it and move on because one person's trauma response shouldn't get people so hate-filled and riled up.
Posting something like he did is gonna get people trashing it. Hell, the internet trashes people for way less. Again, one can understand that the guy has trauma and still think he went weirdly far over this.

The dude wrote an essay because he triggered himself on purpose.

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Quezovercoatl
02/08/24 2:32:08 PM
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If it's just the way he delivered it that's making it hard to accept, let me say some of it with a calmer tone. First off, I'm sympathetic to Wil Wheaton's rough childhood, even if he may not have needed to go as hard on Larry David or his shows as a result. I happen to be a huge fan of Seinfeld. Comedy is often about the unexpected; betrayed expectations from people behaving poorly in normal situations is a valid and rich mine for jokes. The thing is that while being in a talk show is being on tv this wasn't one of his sitcoms; It was pretty self absorbed to go into a segment not about him, could upset kids to see their little buddy Elmo attacked, and the cherry on the cake is that it was really tone deaf to do when he was trying to do a positive story about mental health. We can all agree that, right? Curb your Enthusiasm is supposed to be funny because it's a wacky fictional portrayal of him, he's not just supposed to go around being a bit of an ass in real life, right?

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mario2000
02/08/24 2:33:59 PM
#96:


Iyami posted...
I have difficulty believing the today show planned to have someone attack a children's show character

Right. Like, I get that Wil had a rough childhood, but it takes a special kind of main character syndrome to believe they planned this out to target you specifically.

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Iyami
02/08/24 2:35:54 PM
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mario2000 posted...
Right. Like, I get that Wil had a rough childhood, but it takes a special kind of main character syndrome to believe they planned this out to target you specifically.
Ok, but I read the tweet and Wil didn't suggest that. It was someone else in this topic who said they think the Today Show must have planned for Larry David to do that, and I wasn't even mentioning it as having been directed at Wil Wheaton.
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DippinSauce
02/08/24 2:57:29 PM
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The only people who should be mad about this is baby cousins.

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mario2000
02/08/24 3:07:36 PM
#99:


Iyami posted...
Ok, but I read the tweet and Wil didn't suggest that. It was someone else in this topic who said they think the Today Show must have planned for Larry David to do that, and I wasn't even mentioning it as having been directed at Wil Wheaton.

I think it's logical to assume they must have planned it beforehand, purely as a lighthearted bit. That's what I though too. Because come on, who would be able to get away with assaulting Elmo on live TV. But reading up on it further, it really does seem like it was spur of the moment.

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Tig
02/08/24 3:40:57 PM
#100:


Zikten posted...
To be fair, Wesley is right. It's kinda odd that anyone would attack a children's character on live TV. I don't understand why he did that.
Jfc

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