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Will_VIIII
02/05/24 9:05:10 PM
#51:


Garabandal posted...
Things are getting really bad
It's like a trial run of Project 2025 down there.

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tripleh213
02/05/24 9:18:56 PM
#52:


Not good

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SaikyoStyle
02/05/24 9:31:45 PM
#53:


Even after everything these alt-right ghouls have done, I have yet to be presented with a single good reason why I should care how another person self-identifies.

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Euripides
02/05/24 9:42:12 PM
#54:


We're a half step away from a public "Trans Registry" and pink triangle patches

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MarcoRubio
02/05/24 9:43:07 PM
#55:


Joke fucking state with joke fucking leadership

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Frosted_Midna
02/05/24 9:45:18 PM
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Can we call Republicans what they truly are yet?

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The_Wheelman1
02/05/24 9:55:52 PM
#57:


At this point if Republicans win they will try to legalize straight up killing transgenders. Its horrible.

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MrAntisocial
02/06/24 7:05:39 PM
#58:


Will_VIIII posted...
It's like a trial run of Project 2025 down there.
If I remember right Project 2025 is more about absolute executive power. Florida is just very gerrymandered and as a result its legislature agrees with DeSantis. Wisconsin would be doing the same shit had Evers lost

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Kradek
02/06/24 7:08:21 PM
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Fuck Florida Fascists.

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mercurydude
02/06/24 7:11:03 PM
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LSGW_Zephyra posted...
So fun fact, in some trans spaces people are talking about their experience trying to get their gender and name changed and they are being denied AND they are being tracked and their information being cataloged even if they all they are doing is asking questions and not.even applying. According to some they are dragged into back rooms where they are denied and personal information being taken down.

I know here in Texas, they were trying to get a list of every known trans person. There was one other state trying to pull the same thing... might have been Florida. But yeah, it's terrifying... they want that list to make it easier to round people up.

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Deutschenlied
02/06/24 7:12:38 PM
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Man, if only someone could have seen this coming.

Besides every fucking person who has called everything the GOP has done since like 2016.

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The23rdMagus
02/06/24 7:15:25 PM
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They're following their playbook.

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LSGW_Zephyra
02/07/24 6:15:55 AM
#63:


MrAntisocial posted...
If I remember right Project 2025 is more about absolute executive power. Florida is just very gerrymandered and as a result its legislature agrees with DeSantis. Wisconsin would be doing the same shit had Evers lost

More about, yes. But they said what they want to do with that power is to make sexual assault of minors a death penalty crime and then make any LGBT exposure to children considered sexual assault of children. Trans people by just being visible would be guilty of this.

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SpawnShadow
02/07/24 11:35:27 AM
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At this point, Florida going full-Atlantis with all current residents still trapped inside there would be a mercy compared to having to take even one more day of unrestricted fascist rule in America's flaccid cock.
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Mrbakerman25
02/07/24 11:54:17 AM
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I think this might be more about trying to curb human and drug trafficking than to lock up or belittle transpeople. Or am I going to get banned for even considering this.

The_Wheelman1 posted...
At this point if Republicans win they will try to legalize straight up killing transgenders. Its horrible.
Something like this isnt considered incendiary or fearmongering though, apparently.

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CSCA33
02/07/24 11:57:48 AM
#66:


Mrbakerman25 posted...
I think this might be more about trying to curb human and drug trafficking than to lock up or belittle transpeople. Or am I going to get banned for even considering this.

Something like this isnt considered incendiary or fearmongering though, apparently.
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TheOtherMike
02/07/24 11:59:12 AM
#67:


Mrbakerman25 posted...
Something like this isnt considered incendiary or fearmongering though, apparently.

Because it's true.

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GrandConjuraton
02/07/24 12:00:05 PM
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CSCA33 posted...
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Better watch out. He might get upset and mark you. I have a moderation on record for the last time I told a bigot that,

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__starsnostars
02/07/24 12:07:06 PM
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Speaking of fake IDs in Florida, how is Matt Gaetz doing?

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Mrbakerman25
02/07/24 12:09:55 PM
#70:


TheOtherMike posted...
Because it's true.
I really feel bad if its something that happened to you in the past that makes you think that is even remotely possible here. Nobody deserves to be so afraid. I couldnt even imagine the kind of riots that would take place. Like next level stuff. Scary stuff, man.

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CSCA33
02/07/24 12:14:10 PM
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Conservatives in the US are actively attempting genocide against trans people, to essentially make it a crime for us to exist, take away our access to healthcare, imprison us, etc. These are laws they advocate for and attempt to pass, and have already made progress in some areas of the country. Hundreds of bills have been filed across the US in 2024 alone so far, attacking basic human rights for trans people with codifying law, in addition to issuing guidelines and rules on the state level.

The front runner for the republican party has actively campaigned to make it illegal for all trans people in the US to exist when back in office.

This is really not debatable.

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ai123
02/07/24 12:16:02 PM
#73:


What has the Republican Party done to make people think that they are not completely serious about their plans to oppress trans people?

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CSCA33
02/07/24 12:20:24 PM
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Mrbakerman25 posted...
I really feel bad if its something that happened to you in the past that makes you think that is even remotely possible here. Nobody deserves to be so afraid. I couldnt even imagine the kind of riots that would take place. Like next level stuff. Scary stuff, man.
Believe it or not, there are other ways for conservatives to enact genocide that don't involve literally mowing us down in the streets en masse.

The Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention has issued a red flag warning for the US concerning trans people. Please stop downplaying this danger as an irrational fear and educate yourself on the issues if you want to throw your hat in the ring.

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Mrbakerman25
02/07/24 12:24:13 PM
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Maaan im poor & disabled and lost my access to healthcare. It can happen to anyone. Wasnt personal. just the .gov being cheap af. What are these cases of being imprisoned w/o cause though? id like to find out about that.

Im like really sorry. maybe im not jaded or prejudiced enough against the system yet to see this as anything but a misunderstanding. And I try not to paint all republicans with the same brush.

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MisterPengy
02/07/24 12:29:21 PM
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Well, they don't really need to. For one, it takes away a trans person's ability to have their legal ID match their identity. The point is to dehumanize and de-legitimize being transgender.

Besides that, it acts like a filter. Caught speeding, not trans? Here's a small fine. Caught speeding, but your ID says you're a woman, but our records show you were born male? Well here's a fine, and an order to get your ID "corrected" or you'll have to come to court, where we'll prove you're a male, humiliate you, make sure you get hefty court fees, and just all around make it as inconvenient as possible for you to exist.

It's just another weapon in their "war" against trans people.

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CSCA33
02/07/24 12:30:19 PM
#77:


Mrbakerman25 posted...
Maaan im poor & disabled and lost my access to healthcare. It can happen to anyone. Wasnt personal. just the .gov being cheap af. What are these cases of being imprisoned w/o cause though? id like to find out about that.

Im like really sorry. maybe im not jaded or prejudiced enough against the system yet to see this as anything but a misunderstanding. And I try not to paint all republicans with the same brush.

The least you can do is have an informed opinion if you want to enter the discussion, rather than downplay and dismiss our concerns as illegitimate or irrational. Educate yourself.

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LSGW_Zephyra
02/07/24 12:33:56 PM
#78:


Another person to add to my ignore list. These have to be alts. The rate at which I block people has gotten to the point where you would think that it would make a sizable dent in CEs community but like I don't even notice.

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MisterPengy
02/07/24 12:34:11 PM
#79:


Mrbakerman25 posted...
Maaan im poor & disabled and lost my access to healthcare. It can happen to anyone. Wasnt personal. just the .gov being cheap af. What are these cases of being imprisoned w/o cause though? id like to find out about that.

Im like really sorry. maybe im not jaded or prejudiced enough against the system yet to see this as anything but a misunderstanding. And I try not to paint all republicans with the same brush.

Honestly dude, just get the fuck out. None of us are going to buy your "I'm just so ignorant!" defense. This is a real issue that effects real people, it does not need your shitty trolling.

In the event that you're actually this clueless, just stay out of the discussion until you can keep up.

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darkace77450
02/07/24 12:38:27 PM
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Mrbakerman25 posted...
Something like this isnt considered incendiary or fearmongering though, apparently.

How many Republicans have to openly express their desire to eradicate the LGBT community before we're allowed to take them seriously?
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pazzy
02/07/24 12:38:31 PM
#81:


This is just stupid and discriminatory. Why go through all of this to make things harder on literally everyone involved?

I know why, but this is just frustrating to see this.
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FortuneCookie
02/07/24 12:39:44 PM
#82:


The federal government needs to step in. It's not a state's right to decide which people are allowed to have rights. We settled that dispute with the Civil War.
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Mrbakerman25
02/07/24 12:43:32 PM
#84:


MisterPengy posted...
Honestly dude, just get the fuck out. None of us are going to buy your "I'm just so ignorant!" defense. This is a real issue that effects real people, it does not need your shitty trolling.

In the event that you're actually this clueless, just stay out of the discussion until you can keep up.
okkk...so you're just gonna deflect and insult me? cooool

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Murphiroth
02/07/24 12:48:49 PM
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Mrbakerman25 posted...
Maaan im poor & disabled and lost my access to healthcare. It can happen to anyone. Wasnt personal. just the .gov being cheap af. What are these cases of being imprisoned w/o cause though? id like to find out about that.

Im like really sorry. maybe im not jaded or prejudiced enough against the system yet to see this as anything but a misunderstanding. And I try not to paint all republicans with the same brush.

"I'm just so ignorant, it isn't my fault, I'm really sorry" lmao no you're fuckin' not, when you have people in this very topic explaining these things to you and you continue to spin and downplay them. You chuds are always so transparent, I don't know why you try to pull this "herpa derpa I dunno" schtick.
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LSGW_Zephyra
02/07/24 12:53:22 PM
#86:


FortuneCookie posted...
The federal government needs to step in. It's not a state's right to decide which people are allowed to have rights. We settled that dispute with the Civil War.

This is supposed to be illegal. The government should have supremacy but... Until it gets solved in courts

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Zwijn
02/07/24 12:57:04 PM
#87:


Now make it illegal for everyone else and invest in public transport, walkable cities and bicycles. Sent from my tiny ass country.
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Rexdragon125
02/07/24 1:02:46 PM
#88:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

This. Nazi Germany started painting LGBTQ as pedophiles and burned books about them before shipping them off to the gas chambers. Just a heads up, disabled people also got sent to the gas chambers with other disadvantaged minorities if you really are disabled Mrbakerman
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LSGW_Zephyra
02/07/24 1:12:41 PM
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Rexdragon125 posted...
This. Nazi Germany started painting LGBTQ as pedophiles and burned books about them before shipping them off to the gas chambers. Just a heads up, disabled people also got sent to the gas chambers with other disadvantaged minorities if you really are disabled Mrbakerman

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ZMythos
02/07/24 1:15:33 PM
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Being conservative in this day and age is advocating for genocide.

That's not hyperbole, that's fact.

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CSCA33
02/07/24 1:38:40 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

In the trans community at least, we don't advise people to avoid visiting Texas like we do with Florida (or Jamaica as another example.)

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PraetorXyn
02/07/24 1:40:02 PM
#94:


I misread the topic title as Driving White Trans Am and that was way funnier lol.

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CSCA33
02/07/24 1:46:01 PM
#96:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

It depends on the context. Texas has recently made gender affirming care illegal for minors, so you wouldn't want to move there with a kid, but if you want to visit a friend or family, it's typically okay especially cities like Dallas or Austin.

Florida is more dangerous or risky to visit, but some still do it anyway.

Visiting Jamaica as a trans person has a distinct probability to end up getting murdered, and the police won't do anything to help or investigate.

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ScazarMeltex
02/07/24 1:49:48 PM
#97:


There is one tries and true way to deal with fascists.

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CSCA33
02/07/24 2:13:02 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

I mean if you don't believe me, go post some questions online and see what they say...? I'm active in the trans community and this is my experience with discussions surrounding moving or visiting places, it depends on the laws and political climate, bills under consideration or what types of policies are being pursued, etc. We don't just make blanket statements "stay away from this state no matter what" for any place that has anti trans sentiment like Texas for example. In the US, Florida is basically at the top of the list of do not visit or move to live there.

We have trans people all over the US who chime in on these discussions with their lived experiences in said areas as well.

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Crimsoness
02/07/24 2:15:21 PM
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Hopefully none of CE's resident transpeople live in that shithole

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