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MatzoTov
11/16/23 2:39:31 PM
#151:


NightingaleMD posted...
I've been nothing but polite and attempting to justify or reason through my views.
Been there, brother. It's a losing battle. You try to have a conversation and get hit with emojis and insults. Nobody actually cares to debate here. I'd just leave the topic before you waste any more time.

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UnholyMudcrab
11/16/23 2:40:06 PM
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NightingaleMD posted...
There is profound irony here. I've been nothing but polite and attempting to justify or reason through my views.
My god, he's literally just quoting from the sealion comic

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Murphiroth
11/16/23 2:40:47 PM
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You still haven't bothered to explain how the Democrats are supposedly going to run the country into the ground, and how it's so bad that it's worth supporting bigotry and hatred. But I suspect you'll continue to duck and dodge as you chuds always do, because having the self awareness to admit you're ok with the aforementioned bigotry and hatred is beyond you.

Also, regarding your whining about tolerance - why the fuck should we tolerate people who are actively trying to genocide trans people?

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DarthAragorn
11/16/23 2:41:38 PM
#154:


There is no such thing as a moderate republican and pretending otherwise makes you look like a fool.

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Murphiroth
11/16/23 2:41:44 PM
#155:


MatzoTov posted...
Been there, brother. It's a losing battle. You try to have a conversation and get hit with emojis and insults. Nobody actually cares to debate here. I'd just leave the topic before you waste any more time.

There's no debate to be had with a sealioning chud.
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NightingaleMD
11/16/23 2:42:03 PM
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Why is college mandatory? Why is there no personal accountability for decision-making? Personal responsibility is a valuable trait, one instilled in me from childhood. I'm accountable for all my decisions. Even with student loans. Before ever taking them out I sat and did loooooots of research. I knew full well this was going to be hundreds of thousands of dollars but estimated--correctly--it was payable. Why are others incapable? And why is the government now responsible for their bad decisions?



If he can't grind his boot on someone else's neck economically, is he really living?

Doesn't seem relevant to anything discussed here--by any stretch of any interpretation of anything I've said-- but okay



Seriously, having a huge population that is stuck in a cycle of debt for trying to improve and not being able to because of the systems in place designed to screw people over is honestly not much different than the caste system of India. So TC, why do you support a caste system?

No to castes, yes to accountability as mentioned above. No one ~has~ to go to college. There are great six figure trade jobs. Money from that can shunt into college if the student who cannot afford it later wishes to attend. You keep speaking like there is zero accountability to the borrower.

That is a fundamental political difference as well, I think. Democrats have zero concern in my mind--financially or personally--for accountability.

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MatzoTov
11/16/23 2:44:32 PM
#157:


Murphiroth posted...
There's no debate to be had with a sealioning chud.
This is one of the classic nothing responses.

TC: Makes statement
Response: I disagree with that statement
TC: Ok well let's talk about it
Response: Stop sealioning you chud

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UnholyMudcrab
11/16/23 2:46:34 PM
#158:


MatzoTov posted...
This is one of the classic nothing responses.

TC: Makes statement
Response: I disagree with that statement
TC: Ok well let's talk about it
Response: Stop sealioning you chud

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Murphiroth
11/16/23 2:47:07 PM
#159:


MatzoTov posted...
This is one of the classic nothing responses.

TC: Makes statement
Response: I disagree with that statement
TC: Ok well let's talk about it
Response: Stop sealioning you chud

*shrug*

Just calling it like it is.

Which revolving door user's alt are you?
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MatzoTov
11/16/23 2:56:20 PM
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Murphiroth posted...
Just calling it like it is.
Which is all I'm doing as well. No ill will intended, brother.

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Error
11/16/23 2:56:25 PM
#162:


NightingaleMD posted...
It's largely vitriol and hate, and purely one-sided. This is another fundamental problem I have with the democratic party, one that is evident from this topic: complete cognitive dissonance from their own complaints.

The party as a whole is wildly, wildly intolerant of ideas that are not their own. Not that republicans are much better-or hey, better at all-- but the lack of recognition of their own intolerance while preaching tolerance is staggering.

Sorry that the mean liberals in this topic said they don't like you supporting the side that is a stones throw away from goosestepping all LGBT out of society.

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Murphiroth
11/16/23 2:59:33 PM
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Error posted...
Sorry that the mean liberals in this topic said they don't like you supporting the side that is a stones throw away from goosestepping all LGBT out of society.

Right?

"It's all vitriol and hate" while at the same supporting the party whose official stance is vitriol and hate 24/7.

No self awareness at all.
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rideshort
11/16/23 3:09:11 PM
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Did TC give his elaborate response?

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Will_VIIII
11/16/23 3:13:19 PM
#165:


NightingaleMD posted...
Happily! Though it's time to feed my son dinner and do other stuff but I'll return tomorrow.

For whoever said, I do watch fox news. I also watch msnbc. And I'm a huge fan of last week tonight with John Oliver. Nothong wrong with collecting diverging points
Where we at with this

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UnholyMudcrab
11/16/23 3:14:10 PM
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His big response was at the end of the last page. It's nonsense, you don't need to bother reading it.

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Will_VIIII
11/16/23 3:15:09 PM
#167:


NightingaleMD posted...
Destruction is from both parties
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/49e2977f.jpg

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Cemith
11/16/23 3:18:54 PM
#168:


NightingaleMD posted...
I've been nothing but polite and attempting to justify or reason through my views.

"I'm so polite in voting for people that want to legislate away trans rights"

Yeah you can smile and wave all you want but it doesn't change the actual actions. That goes for your other few paragraphs, too. The reason people give you shit for voting for Republicans is because Republicans have gone out of their way to ruin life for so many groups of people I doubt I could list them all here.

NightingaleMD posted...
The party as a whole is wildly, wildly intolerant of ideas that are not their own.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a26bfd92.jpg

NightingaleMD posted...
They don't want to see the rise of the moderate republican.

Because nowadays moderate Republicans would still rather vote for the fascist.

You're more than welcome to "woe is me" about the content of the topic but for as long you're supporting the modern Republican party, you're part of the problem.

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Will_VIIII
11/16/23 3:25:48 PM
#169:


Cemith posted...
"I'm so polite in voting for people that want to legislate away trans rights"

Yeah you can smile and wave all you want but it doesn't change the actual actions. That goes for your other few paragraphs, too. The reason people give you shit for voting for Republicans is because Republicans have gone out of their way to ruin life for so many groups of people I doubt I could list them all here.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a26bfd92.jpg

Because nowadays moderate Republicans would still rather vote for the fascist.

You're more than welcome to "woe is me" about the content of the topic but for as long you're supporting the modern Republican party, you're part of the problem.
Essentially, why should we differentiate the Nazis from the non Nazis standing side by side at the unite the right rally from 2017?

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Gwynevere
11/16/23 3:29:58 PM
#170:


NightingaleMD posted...
China is 100% laser focused on replacing the west as a global leader in virtually everything, esepcially militarily. They are doing it without a single concern for diversity. Both of those statements are factual. I'm not saying it's good or bad I'm just saying...it is what it is.
If it's not good or bad, then what are you saying? Why was it so important that it had to be brought up?

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MatzoTov
11/16/23 3:54:05 PM
#171:


Error posted...
Sorry that the mean liberals in this topic said they don't like you supporting the side that is a stones throw away from goosestepping all LGBT out of society.
Wait is this Error1355's real account?

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David1988
11/16/23 3:59:07 PM
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congrats on paying off the loan tc! I can understand you being bitter about loan forgiveness because you yourself did it the right and hard way but have some sympathy for people who aren't as responsible for their own decisions as you are, we need to take care of them.

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11/16/23 4:02:51 PM
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Will_VIIII
11/16/23 4:10:51 PM
#173:


David1988 posted...
congrats on paying off the loan tc! I can understand you being bitter about loan forgiveness because you yourself did it the right and hard way but have some sympathy for people who aren't as responsible for their own decisions as you are, we need to take care of them.
You must be especially mad about the PPP loan forgiveness

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CE_gonna_CE
11/16/23 4:18:47 PM
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Error posted...

Whose alt

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ProfessorKukui
11/16/23 4:59:44 PM
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damn, I dunno who to vote for so I'll go with the ones that want everyone dead. Logical.

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Will_VIIII
11/16/23 5:06:56 PM
#176:


ProfessorKukui posted...
damn, I dunno who to vote for so I'll go with the ones that want everyone dead. Logical.
Well yes because of the welfare and immigration

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Solid_Sonic
11/16/23 5:25:47 PM
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What is sealioning?

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Dark_Koopatrol
11/16/23 5:28:43 PM
#179:


I can't imagine even having $1000 debt.
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Solid_Sonic
11/16/23 5:29:53 PM
#180:


Dark_Koopatrol posted...
I can't imagine even having $1000 debt.

I have over $10,000 I owe on a car.

I intend to pay it off super-fast, though. I only got the car this past May and I'm like...$4500 at least into paying it off?

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Cemith
11/16/23 5:32:42 PM
#181:


Solid_Sonic posted...
What is sealioning?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/sealioning-internet-trolling

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Solid_Sonic
11/16/23 5:37:17 PM
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Cemith posted...
https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/sealioning-internet-trolling

Hmm...seems like one of those things I understand in my head but never had a word for until now.

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rexcrk
11/16/23 6:05:59 PM
#186:


Murphiroth posted...
Knew this was a stealth topic to whine about loan forgiveness.


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NightingaleMD
11/16/23 6:37:49 PM
#187:


Will_VIIII posted...
Where we at with this

Not far

that's fairly exhaustive and life can be unexpectedly busy

kids man

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Will_VIIII
11/16/23 6:54:35 PM
#189:


NightingaleMD posted...
Not far

that's fairly exhaustive and life can be unexpectedly busy

kids man
Nice copout again

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DrizztLink
11/16/23 6:55:33 PM
#190:


NightingaleMD posted...
The party as a whole is wildly, wildly intolerant of ideas that are not their own. Not that republicans are much better-or hey, better at all-- but the lack of recognition of their own intolerance while preaching tolerance is staggering.
"if you're so tolerant why can't we say the n word checkmate liberals"

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foreverzero212
11/16/23 6:58:30 PM
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Nice tc. I just paid off 36 million in student loans. Feels good.

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NeonBoobs
11/16/23 7:00:57 PM
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MrResetti
11/16/23 7:03:39 PM
#193:


My parents paid for my school and my rent while I was in school because they loved me more than TC's parents.

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NightingaleMD
11/16/23 7:12:21 PM
#194:


Will_VIIII posted...
Explain with data, how they would be doing that

Ended up with more time than I thought tonight. This would have to be piecemealed by topic, as I simply don't care enough to put the time into hours of individual topics all at once.

Again, neither party is perfect. I will preface this. But I dislike democratic ideology more.

Affirmative action
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/07/14/
private-selective-colleges-are-most-likely-to-use-race-ethnicity
-as-a-factor-in-admissions-decisions/

Democratic support for affirmative action is something I disagree with. It disenfranchises high performing ethnicities (I am ~not~ asian, btw) and enforces diversity for the sake of diversity rather than individual merits. This is a purely philosophical approach, if you feel 25% of the university of michigan "should be black" I guess we just have to disagree. Which, if you could believe in etiquette and discourse, is appropriate. Personally I feel, and this should be a recurring theme by now to anyone reading, in personal accountability. Relying on history or color of skin, regardless of validity, is a crutch I would never be proud of.

How does it relate to destroying this country? By deliberately separating people by ethnicity and pitting people, indirectly, against each other not on what's inside but by factors beyond control. This stirs division, in my opinion.

It largely exists due to democratic support:
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/06/08/
demographic-and-partisan-views-about-race-and
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You'll also see it skews towards support of younger individuals and less of older. This will be, to be clear, a recurring theme of republican vs democratic principles: age reflecting political opinions.

I've personally experienced this. I was insanely passionate about voting democratic when I was 18. Wanted all the handouts since I was super fucking poor and wanted to tax the rich to give all their money to me.

That extends to the topic at hand, as I definitely had zero dollars for college. Med school was my ONLY loan, btw. I worked full-time to pay for undergrad which delayed graduation by 3 years. Didn't take a single loan or get money from my parents. I had a 10%-ish scholarship to where I wanted to go but needed cash to cover the balance. But med school is so expensive I didn't even try.

GranolaPanic posted...
Earlier you complained that Democrats were responsible for Andrew McCarthy losing his speakership. Remind me which Democrat was it that motioned for his removal?

It wasnt a Democrat. It was Matt Gaetz.

Moderate republicanism > democrats > MAGA >>>>>> liberal wing defunding all authority. I didn't ASK who initiated it. I AKED who supported it. ALL democrats voted to crash the country. No comment, eh?

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NightingaleMD
11/16/23 7:18:18 PM
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McCarthy isnt a moderate. He blamed the Democrats after they reached a deal to avoid the shutdown.

If you want an actual moderate, you would support Joe Biden because thats what he is.

He'd right though. He was trying to bridge both parties and was punished by Maga and finished off by dems

Also, I could never, ever support an 80 year old man for president. As one comedian says, you don't order for the table and leave before the check.
That is a fair, legitimate and valid concern. If you can't fly a commercial airline that old you shouldn't be allowed to run governments

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NightingaleMD
11/16/23 7:27:34 PM
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GranolaPanic posted...


The GOP has the House majority. It isnt the responsibility of the Democrats to save them from their own stupidity and infighting.

As mentioned, grouping people into one large stereotype is inaccurate. There are moderates in the republican party and they were sabotaged by extremists. Unfortunately our system rewards extremism in the primaries (seen on BOTH SIDES) so moderate voices are getting pushed out.

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NightingaleMD
11/16/23 7:29:59 PM
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/poll-a-majority-of-democrats-want-new-candidate-to-challenge-biden-in-2024-primary-100031348.html

Apropos of this discussion. Even dems don't want him to run. Why is he running? Why is this being allowed?

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