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UnfairRepresent
11/12/23 12:38:02 PM
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Prison bosses are spending nearly 10,000 a year teaching inmates how to clap their hands and stamp their feet along to music.

Prisoners at HMP Dartmoor are taking part in a body percussion programme, designed to help convicts with their anger management.

Those locked up are encouraged to use different parts of their body, including slapping thighs and snapping their fingers, to make noise to accompany pop music, according to a report in The Sun.

Popular tunes are said to include Happy by Pharrell Williams and Justin Timberlakes Cant Stop the Feeling. It is understood a year-long contract was handed to Wiltshire-based firm Kaboom! to carry out the workshops at HMP Dartmoor.

The Ministry of Justice said the 9600 deal was in relation to cognitive-based therapy.

The Prison Service said: Schemes like this help cut crime, which protects the public and saves taxpayer money.

Full Article: https://metro.co.uk/2023/11/12/dartmoor-prisoners-given-gbp10k-lessons-clapping-music-19811397/?ico=just-in_article_must-read

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Sounds like the start of a movie

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Forty_Niners
11/12/23 12:39:55 PM
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12k isn't a lot.

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Irony
11/12/23 12:40:19 PM
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Forty_Niners posted...
12k isn't a lot.
It's a lot to literally just throw in the garbage

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MarthGoomba
11/12/23 12:42:18 PM
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12k to torture inmates with shitty music. How cruel

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Vampire_Chicken
11/12/23 12:42:54 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
The Prison Service said: Schemes like this help cut crime, which protects the public and saves taxpayer money.
I feel crushed beneath the weight of compelling statistical evidence.

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SSJKirby
11/12/23 12:44:07 PM
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hope that 12k is just the license fee for We Will Rock You

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divot1338
11/12/23 12:45:21 PM
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Irony posted...
It's a lot to literally just throw in the garbage
If its $10k to keep them from doing bad shit then its worth it.

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Irony
11/12/23 12:46:54 PM
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divot1338 posted...
If its $10k to keep them from doing bad shit then its worth it.

Vampire_Chicken posted...
I feel crushed beneath the weight of compelling statistical evidence.


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Vampire_Chicken
11/12/23 12:47:38 PM
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divot1338 posted...
If its $10k to keep them from doing bad shit then its worth it.
I feel there's legitimate skepticism that teaching someone to finger-snap will stop them from burgling your house.

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Southernfatman
11/12/23 12:48:32 PM
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I'm for prison dancing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnk7lh9M3o

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specialkid8
11/12/23 12:49:26 PM
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I can't snap. I guess I'll just have to do crime.

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Yo_D_oY
11/12/23 12:50:12 PM
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Ok so it costs 12k for an entire year for that extra cucurricular? That seems very inexpensive. If it helps reduce crime then it's very worth it.

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divot1338
11/12/23 12:54:22 PM
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How do they decide who gets to be Michael Jackson?

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Forty_Niners
11/12/23 12:59:18 PM
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Irony posted...
It's a lot to literally just throw in the garbage
Teaching music isn't garbage.

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Vampire_Chicken
11/12/23 1:02:13 PM
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divot1338 posted...
How do they decide who gets to be Michael Jackson?
With a knife fight.

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ai123
11/12/23 1:06:31 PM
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Seems cheap if it helps them manage their anger, which is the point of the programme. (Glossing over the Bravermanesque 'stop woke prisons from teaching inmates to snap fingers!' topic title).

What are the costs associated with one prison fight? Medical treatment, prosecution etc. Seems worth a try.

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lilORANG
11/12/23 1:06:39 PM
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I did a research paper in law school about prison programs and people who were involved in art classes and musical theater shit were less likely to reoffend after being released.

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UnfairRepresent
11/12/23 1:14:34 PM
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ai123 posted...
(Glossing over the Bravermanesque 'stop woke prisons from teaching inmates to snap fingers!' topic title).
Lol Americans don't know who that is

Just sounds like you're calling the article writers brave.

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Vampire_Chicken
11/12/23 1:18:25 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Lol Americans don't know who that is

Just sounds like you're calling the article writers brave.
Cruella "homeless people shouldn't be allowed tents in winter" Braverman.

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ai123
11/12/23 1:23:25 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Lol Americans don't know who that is
Lucky them.

They don't need another repulsive racist spewing hate to worry about.

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A_Good_Boy
11/12/23 1:26:39 PM
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It's the UK, so as an American if they say that finger snapping helps reduce recidivism then I'm obligated to believe them since their recidivism rates are better than America's.

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UnfairRepresent
11/12/23 1:28:17 PM
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ai123 posted...
Lucky them.

They don't need another repulsive racist spewing hate to worry about.
The US has Donald Trump and MTG

I think the UK still wins

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Agonized_rufous
11/12/23 1:29:49 PM
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If you've ever worked in government, you'd know this is in the top 10% of good money decisions

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TripleDouble
11/12/23 2:05:33 PM
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All criminals are bad

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SpawnShadow
11/12/23 2:16:20 PM
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This is going to turn out to be the first step toward getting an all-prisoner production of West Side Story made, isn't it?
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UnfairRepresent
11/12/23 2:27:14 PM
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SpawnShadow posted...
This is going to turn out to be the first step toward getting an all-prisoner production of West Side Story made, isn't it?
For the first time ever, with real gangs XD

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Trumble
11/12/23 2:46:13 PM
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If that actually helps, $12k is quite frankly fuck all to be spending on it.

Whether it really helps or not is the bigger question; any solid research on that?

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Shadow_Don
11/12/23 2:53:30 PM
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Paying someone to come in and teach them a positive teamwork activity sounds bad only if you're a fucking maniac that believes all crime should result in torture dungeons.

How about we view prisons as a place of rehabilitation for inmates that we expect to eventually return to society?

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ai123
11/12/23 3:24:14 PM
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Shadow_Don posted...
Paying someone to come in and teach them a positive teamwork activity sounds bad only if you're a fucking maniac that believes all crime should result in torture dungeons.

How about we view prisons as a place of rehabilitation for inmates that we expect to eventually return to society?
Browse your average law and order thread on these boards, and you'll see plenty of people advocating for inmates torturing and murdering each other.

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Purple_Cheetah
11/12/23 4:03:57 PM
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MarthGoomba posted...
12k to torture inmates with shitty music. How cruel
This reminded me of that documentary "The forever prisoner" where the US government had this guy blasted with red hot chili pepper's "Give it away give it away give it away now" at absurd levels for days on end as a form of interrogation/torture.
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Lordgold666
11/12/23 4:14:16 PM
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SSJKirby posted...
hope that 12k is just the license fee for We Will Rock You
Lol

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EyeWontBeFooled
11/12/23 4:29:51 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
I'm for prison dancing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnk7lh9M3o
That program is COMPULSORY for all inmates of that prison, except for the infirm. Like, we're talking you'll get a beating from guards if you say you don't wanna. It ain't all sunshine and rainbows there.

But it HAS gotten former inmates of that prison into the music business.

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Jiek_Fafn
11/12/23 4:42:13 PM
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Logic tracks
Have you met anyone that played the hambone and then went to jail? I sure as fuck haven't

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__starsnostars
11/13/23 3:56:52 AM
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Sounds like they hired one person part time and are paying them below minimum wage.

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Rika_Furude
11/13/23 4:00:28 AM
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if a grown adult was stamping their feet because they were angry id be questioning their mental facilities
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008Zulu
11/13/23 4:33:32 AM
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This has got to be some kind of embezzlement scam.

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DnDer
11/13/23 4:38:12 AM
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CBT is a legit thing.

I thought it was much more individually tailored... but I'm all for any kind of rehabilitation efforts for many types of prison inmates.

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GuerrillaSoldier
11/13/23 4:46:38 AM
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that's not a lot, i'm sure people throw money at worse things, and sounds legit


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Shotgunnova
11/13/23 4:48:07 AM
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West Celled Story

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UnfairRepresent
11/13/23 2:37:13 PM
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DnDer posted...
CBT is a legit thing.

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DnDer
11/13/23 7:01:18 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
<___________<

Not that one. The good one.

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SpawnShadow
11/13/23 7:48:52 PM
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DnDer posted...
Not that one. The good one.
For some people, that description does nothing to narrow it down.
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