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Rika_Furude
11/04/23 8:22:19 AM
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FOXHOUND - Liquid Snake, Revolver Ocelot, Sniper Wolf, Psycho Mantis, Vulcan Raven, Decoy Octopus
Dead Cell - Solidus Snake, Vamp, Fortune, Fatman
Cobra Unit - The Boss, The Sorrow, The End, The Pain, The Fear, The Fury
Beauty & Beast Unit - Screaming Mantis, Laughing Octopus, Crying Wolf, Raging Raven

I think Dead Cell has a major advantage, between Vamp and Fortune. Solidus would wreck as well. Fatman is a jobber though. I think it would take Liquid Snake or The Boss really to overcome Vamp & Fortune. The Boss is probably the strongest individual amongst everyone here though.
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radical_rhino
11/04/23 8:30:48 AM
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Foxhound is just a more clever version of Beauty and the Beast. Dead Cell are too few in number and nothing special. Fatman is dead weight. Cobra Unit is interesting because while they generally have weak powers (Mantis could handle The Sorrow), The Boss is basically an enemy Solid Snake and may have protagonist plot-armor. At least 2 of any other bosses would be needed to take down The Boss.

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Doe
11/04/23 8:31:58 AM
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The CIA / Cipher always wins

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TheHorus
11/04/23 8:37:16 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
FOXHOUND - Liquid Snake, Revolver Ocelot, Sniper Wolf, Psycho Mantis, Vulcan Raven, Decoy Octopus
Dead Cell - Solidus Snake, Vamp, Fortune, Fatman
Cobra Unit - The Boss, The Sorrow, The End, The Pain, The Fear, The Fury
Beauty & Beast Unit - Screaming Mantis, Laughing Octopus, Crying Wolf, Raging Raven

I think Dead Cell has a major advantage, between Vamp and Fortune. Solidus would wreck as well. Fatman is a jobber though. I think it would take Liquid Snake or The Boss really to overcome Vamp & Fortune. The Boss is probably the strongest individual amongst everyone here though.
Chinaman and Old Boy are also part of Dead Cell.

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Irony
11/04/23 8:42:01 AM
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The Pain bees gg

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GunmaN1905
11/04/23 8:43:52 AM
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Vamp and Fortune are too overpowered.
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boxoto
11/04/23 8:43:52 AM
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radical_rhino posted...
Mantis could handle The Sorrow
didn't *MGS4 spoilers* Sorrow beat Psycho Mantis?

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Rika_Furude
11/04/23 8:47:26 AM
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TheHorus posted...
Chinaman and Old Boy are also part of Dead Cell.
who?
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Irony
11/04/23 8:50:27 AM
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Chinaman and Oldboy

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Aressar
11/04/23 8:51:58 AM
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Honestly I think B&B would win this. Despite their lack of sanity, the fact that they use the most advanced technology definitely gives them an edge.

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pegusus123456
11/04/23 8:56:37 AM
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Aressar posted...
Honestly I think B&B would win this. Despite their lack of sanity, the fact that they use the most advanced technology definitely gives them an edge.
Yeah, this was my go-to thought. Like Vamp is immortal sure, but I imagine one of Raging Raven's missiles blasted directly into his face would impede the resurrection process a bit. Depending exactly on how their nanomachines work, Screaming Mantis may also be able to control them as well.

But on second consideration, I don't know that any of them are beating Psycho Mantis' telepathy. None of them can plug into the second controller port.

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NeonTentacles
11/04/23 8:56:54 AM
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Psycho Mantis solos

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Sufferedphoneix
11/04/23 9:04:00 AM
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She don't need modern tech to use those hands. She with ease put volgin on his ass not even trying to really hurt him. And volgin had beat the dog shit out of naked snake just before that.

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boxoto
11/04/23 9:11:37 AM
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^ Vamp had super human strength, speed, and could tell how you were going to attack him based on your muscle movements.

Volgin had peak human strength that was somewhat enhanced by his lightning abilities.

Vamp outclasses both, tbh.

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Sufferedphoneix
11/04/23 2:13:48 PM
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boxoto posted...
^ Vamp had super human strength, speed, and could tell how you were going to attack him based on your muscle movements.

Volgin had peak human strength that was somewhat enhanced by his lightning abilities.

Vamp outclasses both, tbh.

Still think boss would make him work hard for a win.

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Gwynevere
11/04/23 2:20:32 PM
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Vamp went up against cyborg Raiden. You know, the one that did this:

https://youtu.be/KJEF2wGHtVM?si=0pqfP8RZiEpqCToK

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nocturnal_traveler
11/05/23 12:03:04 AM
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Lokison posted...
Beauty and Beast unit has the tech. Nothing Boss can do to Crying Wolf with her rail gun. Screaming Raven would be blowing squads out while they were fighting each other.
B&B Unit have the disadvantage of being too reliant on tech, something someone like Ocelot would quickly take advantage of.

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Sufferedphoneix
11/05/23 12:25:35 AM
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Gwynevere posted...
Vamp went up against cyborg Raiden. You know, the one that did this:

https://youtu.be/KJEF2wGHtVM?si=0pqfP8RZiEpqCToK

And Raiden beat him as a human too

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nocturnal_traveler
11/05/23 12:38:02 AM
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It would definitely come down to a standoff between Ocelot, The Boss, and Vamp. Ocelot is a tricky bastard, and probably already learned to not get cocky. The Boss would be like fighting Solid Snake, who soloed these kinds of freakshows. Vamp is incredibly overpowered.

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Sufferedphoneix
11/05/23 12:43:37 AM
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nocturnal_traveler posted...
It would definitely come down to a standoff between Ocelot, The Boss, and Vamp. Ocelot is a tricky bastard, and probably already learned to not get cocky. The Boss would be like fighting Solid Snake, who soloed these kinds of freakshows. Vamp is incredibly overpowered.

Hell the boss would monologe them to death too.

Think battleground would matter. If it's somewhere like the flower field where she ultimately lost to big boss I think she'd thrive with sneak attacks. I honestly feel she only lost that fight cause her heart wasn't in it.

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Lokison
11/05/23 12:53:39 AM
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Beauty and Beast unit has the tech. Nothing Boss can do to Crying Wolf with her rail gun. Screaming Raven would be blowing squads out while they were fighting each other.

Vamp might be the biggest issue, but assuming it's a free for all, he might be a touch distracted.

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DrizztLink
11/05/23 6:05:38 PM
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radical_rhino posted...
Fatman is dead weight.
How dare you.

He has rollerblades, for God's sake.

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snae99
11/05/23 6:06:19 PM
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Liquid solos

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DrizztLink
11/05/23 6:06:51 PM
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nocturnal_traveler posted...
B&B Unit have the disadvantage of being too reliant on tech, something someone like Ocelot would quickly take advantage of.
I feel like there might be a conflict of interest on that one.

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Sufferedphoneix
11/05/23 9:02:36 PM
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I mean all these people lost to a single man. So it is hard to argue how they'd fare against each other.

Fortune is the only one snake couldn't beat. But ocelot could take her.

Wonder how fortune fares against hand to hand combat though. Boss could get close enough to her to disarm her if hand to hand isn't affected by her tech.

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Garioshi
11/05/23 9:10:02 PM
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Dead Cell clears so hard it isn't even funny

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Tyranthraxus
11/05/23 9:11:33 PM
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Cobra automatically wins because killing Ocelot causes a time paradox.

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Sufferedphoneix
11/05/23 9:12:06 PM
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Garioshi posted...
Dead Cell clears so hard it isn't even funny

It would be interesting to see how anybody handles the sorrow. Idk even what's the canon on big boss handling him. He used his fake death revival pill thing and came too. Doesn't sound like something you could realistically do though but if so it's not something anyone on any other team is equipped to handle

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boxoto
11/05/23 9:14:49 PM
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The Sorrow is pretty OP.

he was the one that summoned the lighting bolt that beat Volgin, and he was the one who stopped Mantis in MGS4.

I feel he's a more neutral character, and only acts when necessary.

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Tyranthraxus
11/05/23 9:15:26 PM
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boxoto posted...
The Sorrow is pretty OP.

he was the one that summoned the lighting bolt that beat Volgin, and he was the one who stopped Mantis in MGS4.

I feel he's a more neutral character, and only acts when necessary.

He's loyal to the Boss. If the boss asks him to do something he'll do it. The boss is the reason he didn't kill naked snake.

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itachi15243
11/05/23 9:15:38 PM
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Mantis is basically the only one who canonically has actual super powers of his own.

Everyone else either gets some sort of pseudoscientific explanation or otherwise somehow relies on mantis iirc. Besides Volgan's electricity and one or two of Furtune's feats.

So yeah, Mantis solos, or at least comes close.

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boxoto
11/05/23 9:18:24 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
He's loyal to the Boss. If the boss asks him to do something he'll do it. The boss is the reason he didn't kill naked snake.
good point.

maybe helping Solid was an extension of that, especially since Mantis was already technically dead.

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nocturnal_traveler
11/05/23 9:57:51 PM
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You know, I think we all forgot how resilient Liquid can be. He survived a helicopter explosion, fell at a high height from a Metal Gear, walked away from both a vehicle crash and building explosion, and is able to expose his chest in freezing Alaskan weather. If it wasn't for Foxdie, he would still be alive.

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