Current Events > I have this theory why tons of DBZ fans think Cell Saga is the best. SPOILERS

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And? Guldo tried killed a child and Recoome damn near killed a child and had a blast doing so. And THEN, Ginyu took the body of said child's father and tried to kill him with it.

Said child was FOUR.

We don't rate the Buu saga as the worst out of them all because it was too light hearted, we rate it the worst because...

The non-saiyan Z Fighters became useless
Buu's antics becoming stale fast
Gohan's character being so butchered that he needed a plot power up that was only cool for a couple minutes
Gotenks, enough said

Yes and it's hilarious how he cuts up a dinosaur tail and eats it. I know it's like Batman level of dark for you but damn that shit was childish dumb as fuck to me.

Vegeta is in peak condition in the Buu saga.

Mr. Satan gets a massively better arc in the Buu saga too.

Tien fulfills the exact same role he does in Cell saga by saving Dende, only this time he actually saves a character permanently instead of for a brief time period in Cell saga.

Buu saga is underrated. Videl was a great character too.

Gohan didnt even earn his transformation in the Cell saga. An android he barely talked to was the catalyst for crying out loud.

I agree with TC that nostalgia fuels the Cell saga love. The climax of the saga is literally Cell stands around for a tournament but only fights Goku.. The android portion was engaging since it was three factions at play, but the second Cell becomes perfect, what intrigue is there?

Hell, the final beam struggle has to have the anime bail it out since the manga version only has Vegeta help out.

And you revealed yourself.

Yeah, it's not like Cell was torturing everyone Gohan cared for for a while before this final action by Cell.

I'm convinced more than ever people are so stuck with Cell Saga because it's what they started with

Some of these guys tryna say the Freeza saga was just as dark.

Based on...? You keep saying this but you have nothing to support it.

Scotty, did you take over this account?

When you can't attack the argument you attack the person.

That's not an answer.

An android he barely talked to was the catalyst for crying out loud.

The android portion was engaging since it was three factions at play, but the second Cell becomes perfect, what intrigue is there?

perfect cell is a dork

I think it's Bruce Faulconer's epic Perfect Cell theme

Tbh Gohan's role in Cell is weird. He's borderline a background character for most of the arc, and then once he and Goku go into the time chamber he's randomly put at the forefront

I know it was done this way for story purposes, but from a common sense POV, it always struck me as weird that Goku trained Gohan for 3 years prior to the Androids without trying to get him to go Super Saiyan, but once they are inside the Room of Spirit & Time, it immediately goes to Time to get you Super Saiyan!

I saw someone mention this in another topic and it's totally true. DBZ is full of creepy and tragic moments. The bombastic original soundtrack really doesn't make sense or fit in with the actual show. Bruce Faulconer's music sounds like it was made to represent what happens on screen.

Also Goku's voice, but you could always watch the Kai dub to avoid that.

Gohan probably just wasn't strong enough during the three years before the Androids for his body to handle Super Saiyan, but by the time the Room of Infinite Bullshit appeared, Goku saw an opportunity to really focus on his training and get him there.

...or, at least, that would have been my theory prior to Goten and Trunks achieving the transformation practically at birth for absolutely no reason, completely skipping the power requirement and emotional component that leads to Super Saiyan.

Goku had to watch his best friend get killed in front of him; Future Trunks saw his entire world destroyed and his mentor slain; Vegeta was faced with the reality that his dream had been stolen from him and he couldn't keep up; Gohan achieved it due to his own rage and self-hatred about always having to be protected by his friends and never doing the protecting.

Goten and Kid Trunks? Well, Toriyama couldn't be bothered to put them through any kind of character arc at all, so they just had it when they were about six years old. I guess they must have reacted very poorly to being grounded or something.

Gohan probably just wasn't strong enough during the three years before the Androids for his body to handle Super Saiyan, but by the time the Room of Infinite Bullshit appeared, Goku saw an opportunity to really focus on his training and get him there.

...or, at least, that would have been my theory prior to Goten and Trunks achieving the transformation practically at birth for absolutely no reason, completely skipping the power requirement and emotional component that leads to Super Saiyan.

Goku had to watch his best friend get killed in front of him; Future Trunks saw his entire world destroyed and his mentor slain; Vegeta was faced with the reality that his dream had been stolen from him and he couldn't keep up; Gohan achieved it due to his own rage and self-hatred about always having to be protected by his friends and never doing the protecting.

Goten and Kid Trunks? Well, Toriyama couldn't be bothered to put them through any kind of character arc at all, so they just had it when they were about six years old. I guess they must have reacted very poorly to being grounded or something.

interesting that gohan and vegeta somehow never noticed kid goten and trunks' power levels randomly jumping by 50x even if they weren't physically there to see it happen

they should definitely have sensed it. freaking out that they can become ssj... how could they not know?

Gohan probably just wasn't strong enough during the three years before the Androids for his body to handle Super Saiyan, but by the time the Room of Infinite Bullshit appeared, Goku saw an opportunity to really focus on his training and get him there.

...or, at least, that would have been my theory prior to Goten and Trunks achieving the transformation practically at birth for absolutely no reason, completely skipping the power requirement and emotional component that leads to Super Saiyan.

Goku had to watch his best friend get killed in front of him; Future Trunks saw his entire world destroyed and his mentor slain; Vegeta was faced with the reality that his dream had been stolen from him and he couldn't keep up; Gohan achieved it due to his own rage and self-hatred about always having to be protected by his friends and never doing the protecting.

Goten and Kid Trunks? Well, Toriyama couldn't be bothered to put them through any kind of character arc at all, so they just had it when they were about six years old. I guess they must have reacted very poorly to being grounded or something.

You should see how Super Saiyan is treated in Super. Kale and Kefla learn how to do it because they figure out that all they have to do to turn Super Saiyan is to flex the muscles in their back, and BOOM transformation.

the faulconer music has some iconic themes but actually watching the show with it is painful. The way the music mimicks every single thing that happens on screen is super annoying.