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NeonTentacles 10/27/23 9:46:56 PM #1: |
Kinda glad we finally got it here. I know it had a PC release, but it stripped most of the new content from it and was basically just the base US version really.
If you don't know, there's basically 3 iterations of Metal Gear Solid on PS1: The Japanese version, the American version, and the Integral version. Japanese version:
Then the American version came out and added:
Japan saw the improvements that Americans got and were like FUCK. So they made an Integral version just for them, which is basically what the Substance and Subsistence is to MGS2 and 3. It got everything from the American version as well as:
So basically it's the definitive version of MGS1. If you never played MGS1 ever before, you should play the base US version first, because all the item text is in Japanese in Integral and you won't be able to read them. But if you've play MGS1 before and know what all the items do, then hell yeah definitely play Integral. --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smackems 10/27/23 9:53:51 PM #2: |
My first exposure to MG was the vr mission game
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NeonTentacles 10/27/23 10:28:09 PM #3: |
Smackems posted...
My first exposure to MG was the vr mission gameHow was it? Did it get you into MGS? Was it fun without any of the context of the main story? --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smackems 10/27/23 10:42:35 PM #4: |
NeonTentacles posted...
How was it? Did it get you into MGS? Was it fun without any of the context of the main story?It was very confusing. No story. I played mgs soon after and am a big fan of the series --- Common sense says it may not taste good, but it'll make a turd. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonTentacles 10/27/23 11:54:32 PM #5: |
Glad it gateway'd you into it
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NOM 10/28/23 12:03:26 AM #6: |
Are they putting Integral in the Master Collection?
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NeonTentacles 10/28/23 12:04:24 AM #7: |
NOM posted...
Are they putting Integral in the Master Collection?Yeah, it's here. I'm playing it right now. You just have to download the optional free Japanese language pack to play it. --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sephiroth068 10/28/23 12:08:15 AM #8: |
I know this is probably an unpopular opinion but I do wish the Twin Snakes remake was included as well as it really is another good way to enjoy the original. Might not be as good for some but it always was a great experience to me
That said, I am glad Integral was included in Master Collection. It really is the definitive version of the original PS1 game --- Chapter 7, that's all you need to say to a Valkyria fan, they'll know what you mean - Celestial Damnation ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ricemills 10/28/23 12:12:02 AM #9: |
Japanese Snake sounds like Campbell lol.
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chaos_knight 10/28/23 12:12:25 AM #10: |
Just bought it. Is there seriously no option for wide screen?
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NeonTentacles 10/28/23 12:16:21 AM #11: |
chaos_knight posted...
Just bought it. Is there seriously no option for wide screen?No. MGS1 really is just an iso and emulator >_> --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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chaos_knight 10/28/23 12:16:43 AM #12: |
NeonTentacles posted...
No. MGS1 really is just an iso and emulator >_> Well fuck. --- Seattle Seahawks Super Bowl XLVIII Champions ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonTentacles 10/28/23 12:17:37 AM #13: |
sephiroth068 posted...
That said, I am glad Integral was included in Master Collection. It really is the definitive version of the original PS1 gameOh yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to trying out the Alternative Round mode where they change up the guard's patrols and camera. That seems like fun --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonTentacles 10/28/23 12:19:17 AM #14: |
chaos_knight posted...
Well fuck.For what it's worth, it still plays well. I haven't encountered any problems or slowdown on Steam Deck. Plus they let you spoof fake save data from various Konami games on the memory card so you get all the possible dialogue for Psycho Mantis, as well as an option to give yourself completion data to unlock all the rewards straight away. But otherwise, yeah. No widescreen, no 60fps, no sharp resolution. --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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chaos_knight 10/28/23 12:20:27 AM #15: |
NeonTentacles posted...
For what it's worth, it still plays well. I haven't encountered any problems or slowdown on Steam Deck. Plus they let you spoof fake save data on the memory card so you get all the possible dialogue for Psycho Mantis, as well as an option to give yourself completion data to unlock all the rewards straight away. That's nice I guess. Is Integral that good though as an addition? Sounds hype as hell so far from this topic. --- Seattle Seahawks Super Bowl XLVIII Champions ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonTentacles 10/28/23 12:22:48 AM #16: |
chaos_knight posted...
That's nice I guess. Is Integral that good though as an addition? Sounds hype as hell so far from this topic.It is pretty good. You won't really notice much of a difference on the 1st playthrough other than the extra codec channels, but the NG+ stuff it has is cool. You might as well commit to that version for achievements and completion since it has the most stuff in it (as long as not being able to read item descriptions doesn't matter to you) --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trelve 10/28/23 1:13:39 AM #17: |
chaos_knight posted... Just bought it. Is there seriously no option for wide screen?You get a better experience using DuckStation. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonTentacles 10/28/23 8:18:02 AM #18: |
Ricemills posted...
Japanese Snake sounds like Campbell lol.I put on the JPN Metal Gear Solid for a second and wow the voices are weird. Did MGS2-4 only have English voices even in Japan? --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ricemills 10/28/23 8:28:38 AM #19: |
NeonTentacles posted...
I put on the JPN Metal Gear Solid for a second and wow the voices are weird. Did MGS2-4 only have English voices even in Japan? They should have Japan voices. I know MGS 2 has it and it's better than MGS 1. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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harley2280 10/28/23 9:30:16 AM #20: |
My only issue with integral in the Master Collection is all of the item descriptions are in Japanese. It's been so long since I've played through MGS1 I actually needed the descriptions.
So I'm doing my first play through on the US edition and then I'll just insert the completion data into integral. --- PSN/GT: Harley2280 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Error1355 10/28/23 9:35:55 AM #21: |
I always wanted to play Integral back in the day when reading about it.
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NeonTentacles 10/28/23 9:37:14 AM #22: |
harley2280 posted...
My only issue with integral in the Master Collection is all of the item descriptions are in Japanese. It's been so long since I've played through MGS1 I actually needed the descriptions.Yeah, that's the only downside to Integral. If you don't know what the items do by memory, then just play the US version. I hope someone makes a mod to make the game 100% English --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonTentacles 10/28/23 9:37:34 AM #23: |
Error1355 posted...
I always wanted to play Integral back in the day when reading about it.Now's your chance! I never touched it until now either --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Error1355 10/28/23 9:38:59 AM #24: |
NeonTentacles posted...
Now's your chance! I never touched it until now either The only real thing I'm interested in from this release are the game scripts, which may have info in it that is not previously known like the MGS2 Game Script in the Document of MGS2. --- I'm a long, long way from giving up Call me old-fashioned, call me a fool ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonTentacles 10/28/23 9:40:20 AM #25: |
Error1355 posted...
The only real thing I'm interested in from this release are the game scripts, which may have info in it that is not previously known like the MGS2 Game Script in the Document of MGS2.I haven't looked at the scripts or master books of any of the games yet. Does MGS2 come with the Document of MGS2 also? --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Error1355 10/28/23 9:43:49 AM #26: |
NeonTentacles posted...
Does MGS2 come with the Document of MGS2 also?It does not. The Document of MGS2 still remains to this day one of the weirdest thing that actually got somehow released. It's literally just a game of 'hey play around with the game engine! and look at all our game assets' lol --- I'm a long, long way from giving up Call me old-fashioned, call me a fool ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonTentacles 10/28/23 9:49:31 AM #27: |
Damnit Konami!
Yeah Document always looked really interesting to me. I really need to play it --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonTentacles 10/28/23 2:34:11 PM #28: |
Sorry guys, I made a HUGE error!
Johnny Sasaki in MGS1 Japanese was actually in his underwear. It was the US version that made him hang dong. Then in Integral, they put him back in the underwear --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 10/28/23 2:45:36 PM #29: |
Preorder cancelled.
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Smackems 10/28/23 2:58:27 PM #30: |
sephiroth068 posted...
I know this is probably an unpopular opinion but I do wish the Twin Snakes remake was included as well as it really is another good way to enjoy the original. Might not be as good for some but it always was a great experience to meI love twin snakes my only real problem with it is that it's stupidly easy --- Common sense says it may not taste good, but it'll make a turd. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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