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NhojAnec
10/24/23 6:08:33 AM
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i know that the mainstream media right now is talking about how we are on the verge of ww3, but is it really true?! or are they just fearmongering and its basically just the 80s again?! *hug*

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Bat178
10/24/23 6:15:25 AM
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It's fearmongering. The DEFCON level is still at 3, while it was at 2 during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

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XxX_6GAMING9GOKU_XxX
10/24/23 6:23:38 AM
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mostly fearmongering but a whole bunch of dominos are lining up in really bad ways where the chances of bad shit happening is getting a lot more likely than the status quo. More likely threat is a regional war which would be bad enough

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Shotgunnova
10/24/23 6:25:42 AM
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You don't understand! They moved the hands on the Doomsday Clock forward! You can't argue with science!

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XxX_6GAMING9GOKU_XxX
10/24/23 6:32:48 AM
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the doomsday clock is only right once a day

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Bat178
10/24/23 6:50:15 AM
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This sort of thing is exactly why I don't pay attention to the news anymore. I didn't even know they were saying we were on the brink of WW3.

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UnfairRepresent
10/24/23 6:51:22 AM
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XxX_6GAMING9GOKU_XxX posted...
mostly fearmongering but a whole bunch of dominos are lining up in really bad ways where the chances of bad shit happening is getting a lot more likely than the status quo.

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Nukazie
10/24/23 6:53:59 AM
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it's not like america's going to be involved

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SiO4
10/24/23 6:58:04 AM
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Nukazie posted...
it's not like america's going to be involved


Arms manufacturers would be, and as such we would be.

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Prismsblade
10/24/23 7:02:33 AM
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In the worst case scenario here and depending on how far Israel is willing to go, and how far the US is willing to support them then the odds arent zero.

But These past few years have been full of insane surprises.

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UnholyMudcrab
10/24/23 7:10:47 AM
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World War III is not going to happen, so yes, it is fearmongering.

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Nemu
10/24/23 7:13:36 AM
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While its certainly not impossible for circumstances to arise the more chaotic the world is, the larger powers are more into proxy wars, information wars, etc. Nobody worth mentioning wants to claim land anymore, at least through direct combat. The only real worry point is would be a chaotic nation launching a nuke for no reason, like if Putin decided to just end Ukraine out of spite.
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Funkydog
10/24/23 7:14:18 AM
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Guys, just because the Arch Duke Ferdinand was assassinated does not mean Europe is going to fall into war.

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texanfan27
10/24/23 7:14:55 AM
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It is highly unlikely we will see WW3 from this or any future event. The cost is too high for any major player to go all in on a war between sanctions and production needed for war.

just look at how Russia is suffering from their attempt. That says a lot of what could happen.

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mustachedmystic
10/24/23 7:29:13 AM
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Professor, would you say its time for our viewers to panic? Yes, yes I would Kent. Professor, would you say our viewers should crack their neighbors heads open, and feast on the goo side? Yes.

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ai123
10/24/23 7:31:49 AM
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If the media haven't got a war to talk about, the next best thing is parading a bunch of 'experts' to fearmonger about one.

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NoMeLx22x
10/24/23 7:59:48 AM
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This is the media doing what It does best. Banging on the war drum. It's more like they're crossing their fingers and hoping for it at this point.

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LeoRavus
10/24/23 8:17:03 AM
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The media wants you constantly checking them for news because they want to get paid. The top stories are always something negative. Humans love hearing about and witnessing destruction and death. We've always been entertained by it, only it was more honest in ancient times. Now because we're so "civilized" we disguise our bloodlust as concern. "OMG that's so awful. But I can't look away."


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kelemvor
10/24/23 8:18:17 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
World War III is not going to happen, so yes, it is fearmongering.

A fully mobilized NATO could win a war against the whole world with ease, hell maybe the USA all by itself. China is the next closest thing to a real "Superpower" but the last thing they want is a shooting war with NATO. Their only friends are Russia and North Korea. They would get bombed back into the 1800s. A Great Leap Backwards, if you will.
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UnfairRepresent
10/24/23 8:24:32 AM
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kelemvor posted...


A fully mobilized NATO could win a war against the whole world with ease, hell maybe the USA all by itself. China is the next closest thing to a real "Superpower" but the last thing they want is a shooting war with NATO. Their only friends are Russia and North Korea. They would get bombed back into the 1800s. A Great Leap Backwards, if you will.
A full scale world war today wouldn't be fields of people shooting at each other

NATO can't "win a war against the world with ease" that's absurd.

The US couldn't even beat Vietnam and is being routinely outplayed by China in cyberwarfare and economic future.

Did you forget that MAD is still a thing? And even if it somehow wasn't and nobody had nukes, just mad bombing Russia and China wouldn't "win" anything except a lot of dead people and a fucked up global economy since we're all independant. Then they bomb us back.

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Southernfatman
10/24/23 8:27:35 AM
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A world war would rock the boat too much and interferes with money making. Sure, war is a huge money maker too, but a world war would be too costly in the long run and would upset the status quo too much.

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mustachedmystic
10/24/23 10:08:45 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
The US couldn't even beat Vietnam and is being routinely outplayed by China in cyberwarfare and economic future.
If we fought China, we wouldnt occupy them, we would destroy their ability to make war. People bring up Vietnam and Afghanistan as if we lost those wars. In both cases, we lost the occupation, not the war.

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Sariana21
10/24/23 10:20:11 AM
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Its not fearmongering.

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ZaruenKosai
10/24/23 10:25:18 AM
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mustachedmystic posted...
People bring up Vietnam and Afghanistan as if we lost those wars. In both cases, we lost the occupation, not the war.
lolol

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Prismsblade
10/24/23 10:31:46 AM
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mustachedmystic posted...
If we fought China, we wouldnt occupy them, we would destroy their ability to make war. People bring up Vietnam and Afghanistan as if we lost those wars. In both cases, we lost the occupation, not the war.
How? By sanctioning them? Thats not the instant win button you think it is. Never mind how hard that would screw us over on top of the cost. And thats just for china.


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mustachedmystic
10/24/23 12:23:12 PM
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ZaruenKosai posted...
lolol
Think about it. If our only goal in those wars was to destroy the enemy/country, could the NVA, or the Taliban have stopped us?

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Sry4PartyRockin
10/24/23 12:26:49 PM
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I watch broadcast news a couple nights a week and not once has anyone said anything like WW3 is imminent.
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mustachedmystic
10/24/23 12:27:43 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
How? By sanctioning them

Thats part of it. Also, bombs, bullets, ships, and planes.

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buddhamonster
10/24/23 12:29:56 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
How? By sanctioning them? Thats not the instant win button you think it is. Never mind how hard that would screw us over on top of the cost. And thats just for china.
Probably the way one always destroys a countries abillity to wage war. Destroy its navy, cripple its air force, blockade its ports, then bomb their cities to dust.

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Ivynn
10/24/23 12:30:41 PM
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Yes, the media is fearmongering. They need dem clicks.

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Ivynn
10/24/23 12:33:53 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
World War III is not going to happen, so yes, it is fearmongering.

Another thing....we're not going to know WW3 happened until it's over. When Archduke Franz Ferdinand was assassinated, the media didn't go "we are now in WW1!". Same when Nazis invaded Poland, the media wasn't "We're in WW2 now!"

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XxX_6GAMING9GOKU_XxX
10/24/23 12:42:51 PM
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Because people think Iran would be like Iraq again and lmao holy shit it wouldn't be. US assets in the mideast are very exposed, and a regional conflict involving Iran would not be a fun time. If we lost a carrier or something the american lust for blood would be 9/11 all over again.

Pacific-wise? I don't know, maybe china making a push for taiwan or something while all of the above is happening. Thats the closest I could see to ww3.

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buddhamonster
10/24/23 1:00:34 PM
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Ivynn posted...
Another thing....we're not going to know WW3 happened until it's over. When Archduke Franz Ferdinand was assassinated, the media didn't go "we are now in WW1!". Same when Nazis invaded Poland, the media wasn't "We're in WW2 now!"
The term "first world war" was first used in September 1914 by German biologist and philosopher Ernst Haeckel, who claimed that "there is no doubt that the course and character of the feared 'European War' ... will become the first world war in the full sense of the word"

September of 1914 it was said. The war started the last week of July.

It took literally a month...

For WW2, it was published in a newspaper a mere three days after Poland was invaded.

On September 4, the day after France and the United Kingdom declared war on Germany, the Danish newspaper Kristeligt Dagblad used the term on its front page, saying "The Second World War broke out yesterday at 11 a.m."

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Ivynn
10/24/23 1:04:54 PM
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buddhamonster posted...
The term "first world war" was first used in September 1914 by German biologist and philosopher Ernst Haeckel, who claimed that "there is no doubt that the course and character of the feared 'European War' ... will become the first world war in the full sense of the word"

September of 1914 it was said. The war started the last week of July.

It took literally a month...

For WW2, it was published in a newspaper a mere three days after Poland was invaded.

On September 4, the day after France and the United Kingdom declared war on Germany, the Danish newspaper Kristeligt Dagblad used the term on its front page, saying "The Second World War broke out yesterday at 11 a.m."

Huh. Well TIL.

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Naysaspace
10/24/23 1:08:11 PM
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Bat178 posted...
It's fearmongering. The DEFCON level is still at 3, while it was at 2 during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
The CMC was to bring missiles in range of the USA. They previously sid not exist.

Today (time matters!), icbms are within range of the USA and are in russian land

HENCE

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Patchwork
10/24/23 1:28:31 PM
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Its all dependent on just how committed the U.S. is to historical alliances with Taiwan and Israel, and how the Ukraine situation plays out.

I wouldnt say were on the brink, but I also would say were a few incidents removed from being in the brink.

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Prismsblade
10/24/23 1:41:47 PM
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buddhamonster posted...
Probably the way one always destroys a countries abillity to wage war. Destroy its navy, cripple its air force, blockade its ports, then bomb their cities to dust.
Those generally arent how modern wars are fought anymore. Destroying an enemys army economically is usually a far better strat than directly confronting them now.

Even then Chinas defenses wont let us bomb them and their assets for free. And if they complete their belt and road initiative wont have any need for ports themselves.

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faizan_faizan
10/24/23 1:54:49 PM
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How would they benefit from fearmongering?

And what's there to fear about? Either WW3 happens or it doesn't.

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Roachmeat
10/24/23 2:01:01 PM
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is the media fearmongering when saying we are on the brink of ww3?!

Yes.

In my opinion, Civil war 2 is the one we should be more paranoid about.
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UnrivaledKoopa
10/24/23 2:08:39 PM
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Probably more like Cold War II, where all the world's major powers are fighting in proxy against each other. The biggest risk of escalation into a true WW3 would be the Taiwan front, if China invades and the US chooses to directly fight China in defense of their interests. But even that is unlikely to lead towards nuclear weapons so long as the US doesn't attack mainland China.

And of course the Civil War II threat is a legitimate one, though I don't think it would be anything like the first one.

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NoMeLx22x
10/25/23 12:03:30 AM
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faizan_faizan posted...
How would they benefit from fearmongering?

I cant tell if this is serious.

You can't figure out why the media would want people to constantly check on them all the time for updates?

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faizan_faizan
10/25/23 1:25:57 AM
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NoMeLx22x posted...
I cant tell if this is serious.

You can't figure out why the media would want people to constantly check on them all the time for updates?
Which is what they do. Why would covering something be fearmongering?

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Skankhair
10/25/23 1:30:53 AM
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Which media outlets are saying WW3 is coming? None of the sources I follow have made this claim. Im not saying it isnt happening anywhere because fear sells ads, but I dont think WW3 is the narrative of the media in general.

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Vampire_Chicken
10/26/23 10:23:16 AM
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The countries with the most reason to fear the devastation of a nuclear attack are those who don't have nuclear weapons. Nuclear-armed rival superpowers are unlikely to push the national self-destruct button by attacking each other.

If Russia used nuclear weapons against Ukraine, would America really unleash nuclear retaliation -- in consequence of which, as we all know, tens of millions of Americans would inevitably die -- simply for the sake of avenging Ukraine? (Almost) certainly not.

But you have to keep bluffing. The sooner someone realises he can win a war with nukes and very probably get away with it, the sooner he'll try it.

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TyVulpine
10/26/23 10:26:35 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...


Did you forget that MAD is still a thing?
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Balnazarr
10/26/23 10:40:07 AM
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Fear mongering. The chances of WWIII were higher during the Cold War.

Russia is fighting a hopeless war in Ukraine. Russia has suffered catastrophic losses. A war against the US would end with Russia surrendering within a week. But, really, this war has no chance of spilling over. Russia has no allies that want to get dragged down with it. Nuclear attacks? Out of the option. If they were serious they wouldn't be threatening it. A nuclear strike of any attempt would end with the utter obliteration of Russia.

NATO would gladly let Ukraine do whatever it wants to Russia after this.

Israel/Palestine? This has been on going for decades. Even if iran were to attack it wouldn't mean much.

China/Taiwan? I dont believe it will happen. China has no real power projection. Taiwan is not a defenseless country. It's army is trained and equipped by NATO. China would have to attempt a d-day style landing against a heavily entrenched NATO armed foe. That's not inc the fact NATO would be involved. We wouldn't put boots on the ground against China. Our goal wouldn't be to occupy China.

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Full_Pokedex
10/26/23 8:56:43 PM
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This topic has really helped at putting my mind at ease involving this subject. Thank you for making this TC.

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