Current Events > Spiderman web slinging: mechanical or organic

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I'll never get that criticism. You're watching/reading about a universe where a dude invented a high tech armor using some junk they had laying around in a cave. Where people regularly invent interdimensional travel, faster than light engines,... and you get hung up on a teenager inventing shootable rope.

Tbh I think comic book writing where people who get superpowers are also always super geniuses who are the smartest people on the entire planet so they are always capable of immediately inventing a solution to their current problem is a bit silly. I'm fine with stories that try to ground that down a bit.

but even in that universe its far fetched

Correct, I get hes a genius but its a level of teenage genius that has no basis in reality, and they have to overcompensate his intelligence to hand wave away the terrible writing of he invented it.

college educated engineers

Mechanical because I love the science side of Spidey. It also adds danger for when it runs out on the job.

A teenager in his basement made a better material than scientists with millions of dollars of budget is beyond suspension of disbelief.

Mechanical because I love the science side of Spidey. It also adds danger for when it runs out on the job.

organic as then we dont have the plot device of running out of web which is always pure plot driven when it happens there is no consistency

Has it?

organic as then we dont have the plot device of running out of web which is always pure plot driven when it happens there is no consistency

Interesting criticism when the non-lazy non-cop out writing is accepting that a teenager can invent that webbing because hes smart.

I get the complaint, and agree its a little tired but I find youre wording amusing, like youre suggest thar not everything that happens in a comic book isnt plot driven when it obviously is, or that it would be fine if they wrote a story where Spider-Man runs out of webfluid doing a mundane task.

Yes. Dyson Vacuums being one of the more famous examples.

but even in that fantastical universe its got to be pound for pound the most amazing invention given its use, application and the age of its inventor

Mechanical 1000%

Organic is terrible and immediately breaks suspension of disbelief.

how does it break suspension of disbelief

He shoots it out of his wrists, at insane velocity and reach, with no pain or limit. Spiders can't shoot web out of their hands (feet?), for one thing, so it just conveniently coming out of his wrists and in a way that literally makes it perfect for a human being to swing by takes a lot to buy. And somehow it doesn't leave his DNA all over the place, despite coming from his body.

he also has a spider sense a thing real spiders do not have at all

That's actually based on something, though, that you can comprehend without going "Wait a minute..."

I think the closest organic could work with a consistent logic is if he secreted the webbing and then put it into mechanical web slingers that he created.

how does it break suspension of disbelief

I think beyond the how a teenage could invent the web fluid problem, the other issue is why would he invent it. Of all the things to invent he went all in on the spider stuff and invented web fluid to swing around? Why would he do that of all the things.

JJBA Stone Ocean does it better

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/1/4/AAevWaAAE9p6.jpg

what is it based on

But what does any of this have to do with actual spiders? Spiders are covered in tiny hairs called trichobothria which grant them their own version of the Spidey-Sense. These hairs, just like Spider-Mans, detect micro shifts and vibrations in the environment. Some spiders even amplify their own abilities by feeling changes and vibrations against their webs while they patiently wait for their next meal. All of this is used to help spiders avoid predators before they are seen, and to catch prey before it could potentially escape the web.

organic as then we dont have the plot device of running out of web which is always pure plot driven when it happens there is no consistency

You write that like its the next obvious step. I get it, they wrote backwards, but its dogshit.

sheen one problem with your entire argument

his spider sense works on things like bombs behind a door altering him before the bomb explodes

or a sniper shooting at him from a rooftop

his spider sense is flat out precognition

jojo does everything better (also stone ocean is best part)

...It is the next obvious step.

"I'm super strong like a spider. I can climb walls like a spider. I have a sort of danger "sense" like a spider. Gee, what else does a spider do?"

How is "webs" literally not one of the first thing you think of when thinking about spiders? Your argument literally makes no sense whatsoever.

Because he invented something that doesnt exist to accomplish it, as a teenager, something that if all the relevant scientists with unlimited resources in the real world tried to do they couldnt accomplish. Thats what makes it far fetched, illogical that was his next move and he accomplished it.

The reason were given that Peter Parker can do this amazing feat of extremely competent engineering with no equipment, or training or resources is hes a genius

Look, if it's organic, then this dude's DNA is all over the city and it's very dumb that nobody knows his secret ID.