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joe40001
10/23/23 3:50:43 AM
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A colorblind program would indiscriminately help the higher and lower position.

That is patently, unequivocally, and indisputably false. You clearly fundamentally do not understand what is being discussed. If you can't wrap your head around how things like food stamps work then there is nothing I or anybody can say that can help you.

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DnDer
10/23/23 3:57:07 AM
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Food stamps are already race-based, and race-based in favor of white people.

Sure, it looks like it's based on income and work requirements, but even just a scratch on the surface reveals numbers that show institutional racism hard at work.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/07/19/what-the-data-says-about-food-stamps-in-the-u-s/

Your example doesn't hold up like you think it does when white people are getting assistance 2:1 compared to black people. (See the chat about 1/2 - 2/3 of the way down.) It's not color-blind at all.

Black people are, as a whole, 400 years behind the same starting line white people have. You can't be color-blind until you resolve for those 400 years. Not when it comes to government policies seeking to redress inequality.

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joe40001
10/23/23 4:22:45 AM
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DnDer posted...
Food stamps are already race-based, and race-based in favor of white people.

No they are not.

Sure, it looks like it's based on income and work requirements, but even just a scratch on the surface reveals numbers that show institutional racism hard at work.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/07/19/what-the-data-says-about-food-stamps-in-the-u-s/

Your example doesn't hold up like you think it does when white people are getting assistance 2:1 compared to black people. (See the chat about 1/2 - 2/3 of the way down.) It's not color-blind at all.

If you are trying to construct the the argument that because 62.7 of the recipients are white and 27.0 are black, white people are getting "2 to 1" food stamps of black people. I mean, surely you understand that's just a completely bogus argument, right?

Firstly, that is not the amount per person that is received but the demographics of the people who receive it.

Secondly 12.1 percent of the us population is black, and 27.0 of food stamp recipients are black, which means they are receiving food stamp benefits at a rate which is over 2 times relative to their size of the population, which means as intended, it is going to those in need, and those in need are disproportionally black.

What is even your attempted argument here? What would that chart you point to look like in your perfect non "race based in favor of whites" version of food stamps? 50/50 blacks/whites? You know that's not how the demographics of this country look at all, right?

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SayHeyyShohei
10/23/23 5:08:22 AM
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Tyranthraxus
10/23/23 8:47:58 AM
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joe40001 posted...
That is patently, unequivocally, and indisputably false. You clearly fundamentally do not understand what is being discussed. If you can't wrap your head around how things like food stamps work then there is nothing I or anybody can say that can help you.
No u

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