Current Events > Target with ONLY self checkout HUGE HUMONGOUS LINE WOW!!!

(+) Yeah! (+)

So efficient.

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Woah

This is why I go to JCPenney instead

They're all lining up to see Lewis

Some shoppers are idiots who dont know how to use self checkout, and hold up the line for everyone.

But Target should probably also staff registers for the geriatrics and people who have two carts of crap.

You have a very strange hate boner for self checkout and I don't understand why.

Crimson_Corsair posted...

You have a very strange hate boner for self checkout and I don't understand why.

TC posted photo evidence of why

Hey most people aren't on board for 100% self checkout, need a healthy mix of both. Especially for the dumb dumbs.

pnut027 posted...

Some shoppers are idiots who dont know how to use self checkout, and hold up the line for everyone.

But Target should probably also staff registers for the geriatrics and people who have two carts of crap.

Any given Target has twenty checkout lines, Zero or one are open when you go there.
Also there's eight self checkouts, and 2-6 of them are broken today.

Where's the out-of-place DJ playing his garbage Top100 tracks from the mid-late 2000s?

action52 posted...

TC posted photo evidence of why

So how does, say, 6 manned checkout lanes make this better vs. 6 self checkout lanes?

A family friend was once offered to use the self checkout and her response was no thanks; Im trying to help you keep your job.

Crimson_Corsair posted...

You have a very strange hate boner for self checkout and I don't understand why.

I did not search for this, it was on the front page.

ZMythos posted...

So how does, say, 6 manned checkout lanes make this better vs. 6 self checkout lanes?

Presumably, cashiers are used to the motion of scanning, sorting and stacking. Ive definitely been behind individuals to could find bar codes, and decided to unpack and repack their bags several times. Self checkout only really works better than registers when you limit it to a certain number of small items to keep the line moving.

Dark_Arbron posted...

A family friend was once offered to use the self checkout and her response was no thanks; Im trying to help you keep your job.

Extra pretentious.

Dark_Arbron posted...

A family friend was once offered to use the self checkout and her response was no thanks; Im trying to help you keep your job.

This is my thinking too. For instance the Walmart in the small town I lived in had 3 cashiers on a Saturday, rest of the week 2. Self checkout was always full. The reg checkout line had 2-3 people waiting in each line. So to me this sounds like a staffing issue. Understand my example was on a interstate highway so It got more than just locals.

pnut027 posted...

Extra pretentious.

And decency toward the working class.

id be happy to use a self checkout if it was good as the amazon store, i.e. you just walk in, take what you want, and walk out and its auto-charged to your account no-fuss. instead, you need to call an attendant over for 2 out of every 3 items you try to scan so they can override whatever weight error the checkout is throwing this time

Rika_Furude posted...

id be happy to use a self checkout if it was good as the amazon store, i.e. you just walk in, take what you want, and walk out and its auto-charged to your account no-fuss. instead, you need to call an attendant over for 2 out of every 3 items you try to scan so they can override whatever weight error the checkout is throwing this time

I've never had these issues, maybe my area is blessed with self scans that work. The only time an attendant comes over is if I'm buying beer.

Shit like this is why 90% of my shopping is done online. That's pretty much everything but perishable food.

Dark_Arbron posted...

And decency toward the working class.

Until they feel the need to shit on said working class

Baha05 posted...

Until they feel the need to shit on said working class

Said family friend is a socialist, so

action52 posted...

TC posted photo evidence of why

The photo doesn't portray a problem with self checkout specifically. It portrays a problem of not enough checkouts, period. The issue would be the same if it was the same limited amount of regular checkouts.

StealThisSheen posted...

The photo doesn't portray a problem with self checkout specifically. It portrays a problem of not enough checkouts, period. The issue would be the same if it was the same limited amount of regular checkouts.

It wouldnt be as bad though. People who bag groceries for a living are going to be better at it.

Dark_Arbron posted...

It wouldnt be as bad though. People who bag groceries for a living are going to be better at it.

Your average cashier at a non-specialty store doesn't bag, though. There used to be a cashier AND a bagger. Now they do both, which also causes problems.

It's a staffing problem, period. Whether you don't have enough employees to run checkouts, or you don't have enough employees to assist with self-checkouts, the issue is the same: Not enough employees. It's corporate greed, not scheduling enough workers.

Dark_Arbron posted...

It wouldnt be as bad though. People who bag groceries for a living are going to be better at it.

Uh huh the 60 year old semi-retired lady slowly putting stuff in the bags is going to be a real help

StealThisSheen posted...

The photo doesn't portray a problem with self checkout specifically. It portrays a problem of not enough checkouts, period. The issue would be the same if it was the same limited amount of regular checkouts.

Most people are not really that good at using self checkout, Unless they have actual experience working as a cashier and doing checkout... they honest usually suck, I have waited at walmart before waiting in line for people using them and even with 2-3 items and they were stupidly slow since its not something they do on the regular, they just aren't used to it.. Compare that to people who do it as their job.. its night and day, and add to that people bringing full shopping carts full of product.. then well it just slows things down considerably.. especially if there is a pricing issue, barcode wont scan, or double scan.. then they get flustered and slow things down even more

Self Checkout should honestly be for 10-15 items or less.. and stores should still be staffing a proper amount of cashier.. not just 2 cashiers and 10 self checkout which is what i tend to see these days

StealThisSheen posted...

Your average cashier at a non-specialty store doesn't bag, though. There used to be a cashier AND a bagger. Now they do both, which also causes problems.

Every supermarket I shop at (Coles, Woolworths, Aldi, K-mart, Target) the cashiers do both and it works fine. Definitely agree with you on the staffing point though.

Axiom posted...

Uh huh the 60 year old semi-retired lady slowly putting stuff in the bags is going to be a real help

Hilarious straw man. Not only are most of the cashiers at the aforementioned stores young, but at my last job (mail sorting) one of my colleagues was in her mid-60s and she sorted just as quickly as I did.

A 60 year old whos good at what they do is not a cripple.

StealThisSheen posted...

The photo doesn't portray a problem with self checkout specifically. It portrays a problem of not enough checkouts, period. The issue would be the same if it was the same limited amount of regular checkouts.

Based on context, it's obvious that the photo is obviously showing one of the main problems the TC has with self checkout, which is that it makes the lines too long. Is this proof positive that self checkout was the reason for the long lines? No. I mean, TC could be exaggerating or even lying I suppose.

But in any case, that photo illustrates what their problem is with self-checkout very clearly. So even if you disagree, saying "I don't understand why" is nonsensical.

100% self-checkout doesn't work because of boomers. You need real cashiers for some customers.

Dark_Arbron posted...

Every supermarket I shop at (Coles, Woolworths, Aldi, K-mart, Target) the cashiers do both and it works fine. Definitely agree with you on the staffing point though.

Hilarious straw man. Not only are most of the cashiers at the aforementioned stores young, but at my last job (mail sorting) one of my colleagues was in her mid-60s and she sorted just as quickly as I did.

A 60 year old whos good at what they do is not a cripple.

Most of the one's around here are slow, especially at Dollar Tree, there is 1 location I saw that has self checkout, I can't wait until they put them in other stores.

Haven't been in a Target in like 2 years,
I prefer Walmart, the self checkout line was a bit long this morning, but regular long.

Inohira posted...

100% self-checkout doesn't work because of boomers. You need real cashiers for some customers.

Tbf not just boomers. What most likely happened here is a combination of people needing help and not enough employees

People think self-checkouts are going to mean the end of cashier jobs but they are going to need just as many people to help customers on the self-checkouts with all the random shit like alcohol checks fucked up price tags etc

Do stores in America still employ people to bag groceries? I thought that was like a thing in Shawshank Redemption days.

WingsOfGood posted...

So efficient.

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Bzzt!

BurmesePenguin posted...

Do stores in America still employ people to bag groceries?

We actually do.

Ironically, they are the few left who don't demand tips.

I see this at work (Costco) all the time.

You get the cantankerous seniors in the self checkout who think its faster but then continually mess up and have to call the attendant over but blame it on technology when they couldve went to a regular cashier and been out the door by the time they finally got through the self checkout.

Then you have idiots with 20+ items in their cart who ignore the attendant politely, keyword, saying 'id recommend you go to the cashier' and then take forever in the self checkout.

Then you have people who attempt to pay cash in the self checkout, despite signs all over saying debit or credit only, which means somebody has to take them over to the lead podium and process it there. I know some self checkouts do take cash, but we don't.

Walmart around me have completely been replace by self checkouts.

Theres so many there isnt a problem with long lines because it seems like Walmart never utilized all of their cash registers anyway, even on the busiest days they were never fully manned.

BurmesePenguin posted...

Do stores in America still employ people to bag groceries? I thought that was like a thing in Shawshank Redemption days.

I almost never see someone who exclusively bags. Maybe a few times at Harris Teeters where most of the staff were teens.

action52 posted...

TC posted photo evidence of why

In my local experience, I have never waited more than a minute or two for self-checkout. Since they started installing a few extra self checkout lanes in most stores now, I never wait.

My personal feeling is that I see no reason why we can't have both traditional and self checkout. Why must it be one or the other?

I guess it's because capitalism is filled with blind followers in the wealthy elite class who aren't capable of figuring out what regular people understand from daily experience. They must do what they are told till maximize profits right now - even if it makes less sense.

Rika_Furude posted...

id be happy to use a self checkout if it was good as the amazon store, i.e. you just walk in, take what you want, and walk out and its auto-charged to your account no-fuss. instead, you need to call an attendant over for 2 out of every 3 items you try to scan so they can override whatever weight error the checkout is throwing this time

Milk - good
Meat - good
Condoms - bad
Tylenol - bad
Markers - bad

Rika_Furude posted...

id be happy to use a self checkout if it was good as the amazon store, i.e. you just walk in, take what you want, and walk out and its auto-charged to your account no-fuss. instead, you need to call an attendant over for 2 out of every 3 items you try to scan so they can override whatever weight error the checkout is throwing this time

Exactly my experience. If I have more than 2-3 items this kind of shit will happen every time. The attendant will have to come over and make some type of override.

Some sale won't be properly showing. Some item will not be showing up properly. The fact I even have to verify it myself is annoying.

The last one I had an issue it wanted you to put groceries back into your cart a certain way after scanning them. Even though you need to get the other stuff you haven't scanned out still. I've never had that problem before and I think it might've been a special setting to combat "stealing". Why the hell does it matter how you put something in your cart if you've scanned it. . Mind you there is 2 people there watching everything like hawks. It'd just worked better had they been running a regular checkout.

Axiom posted...

Uh huh the 60 year old semi-retired lady slowly putting stuff in the bags is going to be a real help

I think youre underestimating modern 60 year olds lol. Theyre spry as hell.

voldothegr8 posted...

Hey most people aren't on board for 100% self checkout, need a healthy mix of both. Especially for the dumb dumbs.

And sometimes self-checkouts just won't work. Especially those with a weight sensor on the "paid" side.

Case in point, I went to a store to buy 3 t-shirts. And with just 3 items, I went to their self-checkout line. I scanned the first t-shirt and moved it to the "paid" side... but the system stayed on the "Please place item onto the packing bin".

Because the t-shirt didn't have enough weight for the system to recognize I had done so.

I ended up waiting 15 minutes (with people piling up behind me) for a clerk to finally show up and bypass the system... once. I didn't realize they had only bypassed it for the first t-shirt, so I scanned the second one and... the same thing happened (obviously).

Causing me to wait another 5 minutes for the clerk to come by again. At that point, I told her that I had one more shirt to scan and that she needed to stay to bypass the system.

A 20-minute delay for, at most, a 3-minute purchase.

That's not from idiots not understanding how the system works... but from a poorly designed system.

Of the grocers near my work, one has maybe 10ish self checkout stations with one or two lines for cashiers and the other only has cashiers. They're both generally about the same speed. At the first one, I use self-checout 99% of the time because it's actually faster since people generally aren't mucking about and there's enough stations. The only issue I've ever had was something I got the coupon for digitally wasn't coming up at the price and I doubled checked the app before having hti the button for assistance. Either way, I'd have needed manual assistance for that issue. Occasionally I physically mess up and need something removed (e.g. fumble my hands and drop something where it doesn't go), but that's usually resolved quickly. Unless I'm buying alcohol there or produce I don't see the item number on, self-checkout is faster than the cashier line with two cashiers. I also pay card, which is quicker than having to wait for change to be counted and handed back.
The other place only has cashiers and sometimes there's a wait, but never egregiously so. I think that store, at least that location, has less people being petty and wasting time at the register. I feel like I hold up the line when I pack my stuff up at the end (idk if they bag it for you, but I don't buy a lot of groceries all at once, so I put them into my backpack). Unlike self-checkout, where you only need to wait on any one person to finish, bagging my own stuff eats up space at the register.

I am definitely a self check out person, but yeah, having no human tils at all sucks. Not just to weed out the slow and technophobic, but these machines tend to break down and shops don't fix em very fast. Never fun when there's only 1 operational.

The solution to this and slow stupid customers would be to just add more self check out stations. I dont go to targets often but I dont think they have very many usually.

Although redesigning most grocery stores to accommodate them is easier said then done they should have been fully transitioning to them for decades now. So thats on them.

Its weird how many times I've used the self-checkout, but they've never sent me a W-2 for doing their employee's jobs for them. If I'm a cashier, why am I not being paid?

GEKGanon posted...

Its weird how many times I've used the self-checkout, but they've never sent me a W-2 for doing their employee's jobs for them. If I'm a cashier, why am I not being paid?

The same reason they dont issue you a W-2 to pick your own items or for you to drive, or for you to bring it to your car.

GEKGanon posted...

Its weird how many times I've used the self-checkout, but they've never sent me a W-2 for doing their employee's jobs for them. If I'm a cashier, why am I not being paid?

This is an insanely dumb post that I see repeated often both by socialist sillies and people who should know better.

Humongous what?