Current Events > Target with ONLY self checkout HUGE HUMONGOUS LINE WOW!!!

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Everytime i went to target, i forgot it takes longer to check out than to shop. 14+ registers, only 2 open, and only 4 shelf check outs

I like self check but I never understand why they would build 20 kiosks and only turn 1 on. Drives me crazy

We do grocery pick up for all our big grocery orders. If we just need a few things we run in and use the self checkout. I ain't waiting in those long, slow moving regular checkout lanes lol

self checkout should be reserved for 10 item or less. Its is such a pain being behind lines like this and seeing people with loaded carts take forever to bag everything and find space to put it all before they can even load it into a cart.

Unless it's recently changed, the self-checkouts around here don't process gift cards, so whenever I buy those I have to go to the regular cashiers anyway.

Plus I'm 40-something now and am used to someone else always bagging my stuff for me from decades of prior shopping experience. Self-checkout always takes longer since I have to do everything myself.

lilORANG posted...

I like self check but I never understand why they would build 20 kiosks and only turn 1 on. Drives me crazy

every store ive been in with self checkout has had all their self checkouts on

Crimson_Corsair posted...

You have a very strange hate boner for self checkout and I don't understand why.

because its a way for big corp to save money by making us check out our own items, resulting in inconvenience for the customer. Not only that, those things need an employee to come and solve the kiosks fuck ups all the time, resulting in an abnormal wait time.

but it would be worth it if the company would pass some of their savings to us. Do they? Of course not.

My local Walmart has around 40 or so self checkouts usually 10 are intentionally close and they open them when they see more people show up which is very rare all the times I've gone I always find several open.

It will keep happening.

the sad part is, and I've pointed this out in other topics, is that at least where I live, self checkouts were brought in to help with the growing lineups that could not be managed by the working staff.

At least where I live, the reason those checkouts exist are because younger cashiers just don't show up to work in the first place. Keep in mind where I live in Canada we pay the minimum wage, which is something like 13-14 dollars here, and there are plenty of hours to get. Cashiers just don't want to take crap from management, and they actively choose to hang out with friends and don't get punished for it.

Rarely is it the case where there aren't enough employed staff. If anything we overstaff. It's just that, at least here, those staff get bullied by management and don't want to work every day.

There's nothing inherently wrong with having self checkout be an option available. But the technology to replace all cashiers with self checkout just isn't there yet.

Stores that try to jump the gun are screwing over both workers AND customers.

Yeah I think most self-checkouts should probably have a lower item limit than they do. Even if you know what you're doing and the self-checkout generally works properly, if you come to a register with 25 items it will still take some time. It's especially true if you have a decent number of items that require inputting the item code or searching for the item in the menu.

Anyway, as I always say in self-checkout topics, the store I work at has 18 of them and there are very rarely any lines. If you have enough of them and they work properly, things should go smoothly.

Ivany2008 posted...

Cashiers just don't want to take crap from management, and they actively choose to hang out with friends and don't get punished for it.

employees that choose to commit time theft deserve to get crap from management
if you're clocked in do your job its not hard and neither is your job
they should be fired and replaced

I would drop my shit where I stand and just leave.

I like self-checkout as an option, but if I'm buying 50+ items of groceries I don't want to do all that in a self-checkout. For the past few months I've been forced into self-checkout because there are no cashier lanes open.

Portable scanners, damn it. You should never have to spend more than 30s at the register.

I haven't waited in line in my local grocery stores in the last five years or so, not a single time. Handheld self-scanners have solved the problem of queues entirely.

But...its all the old ladies fault I was told.

GEKGanon posted...

Its weird how many times I've used the self-checkout, but they've never sent me a W-2 for doing their employee's jobs for them. If I'm a cashier, why am I not being paid?

Yeah where W-2?

potdnewb posted...

employees that choose to commit time theft deserve to get crap from management
if you're clocked in do your job its not hard and neither is your job
they should be fired and replaced

and that's where you seem to misunderstand my meaning. I'm talking about employees who used to actively show up to work just to get yelled at, so they choose to stay home and only work enough to pay bills. I'll give you an example. I worked at Wal-Mart a couple years ago as a store standards. Essentially a cart pusher with a few extra duties. 2 minutes into my shift our produce manager would lay into me if I wasn't already outside getting carts. I could be talking to the other store standards about how we are going to approach bringing the carts in and she would lay into us. It got so bad that the moment that I quit to go back to college, the entire store standards staff quit. All of them, except for one who couldn't find work, who left a month afterwards.

They had to shut down that department for 6 months because no one wanted to work there because of the shit and abuse managers were giving us. It's so bad now that my friend who has been working there for 17 years is now quitting to work elsewhere, all because they are forcing him to do the work of 4 people. Rather than replacing the workers, they attempted to save money and get the workers who worked in other departments to do Store Standards and were forced to hire new staff when all of them refused to work there due to how much crap the Store Standards staff were taking on a daily basis. In the span of 1 shift I would get yelled at 10+ times by different management. We were doing our jobs, but we didn't have the support of management. If anything it was anti-support. The one day we had enough people to cover the carts, they actually took one of us and stuck us in a dead department we had no training in.

And I'm not saying it isn't the employees fault. There are certainly employees with bad work ethics. But at the same time, we have management who don't know what they are doing.

I had bosses call me when I was at a funeral 10 hours away burying my best friend of 15 years. They just don't give a damn. They expect 1 person to do the work of 4 people, which is why no one wants to work there anymore, and the reason self checkouts are used as much as they are in that store. They actively choose to not hire people. Which is why employees don't get fired.

My Walmart's self checkout lane moves way faster than any of the lanes with employees working them. And scanning my own items takes less than 5 minutes anyway, no matter how much I've bought.

The only time I do self checkout is when shopping with mom, if I go solo shopping I always go to a register.

"Scan item"
"Place item in bagging area"
"Unexpected item in bagging area, please remove"
"Place item in bagging area"
"Unexpected item in bagging area, please remove"
"Place item in bagging area"
"Unexpected item in bagging area, please remove"
"Place item in bagging area"
"Please wait for assistance"

Why is self checkout so slow?????

Rika_Furude posted...

id be happy to use a self checkout if it was good as the amazon store, i.e. you just walk in, take what you want, and walk out and its auto-charged to your account no-fuss. instead, you need to call an attendant over for 2 out of every 3 items you try to scan so they can override whatever weight error the checkout is throwing this time

Ok.....with no knowledge how it works. I have a idea. You enter with a card, card records the items in the cart then leave. Am I wrong?

How many kiosks? 2?

Thats why I don't feel bad for the corporations when people start adding items into bin but not scanning them, i.e scan one item but put two items in their bin, they feel like they're performing work so they should be compensated for it so why not add on a couple of free goodies here and there

vycebrand2 posted...

Ok.....with no knowledge how it works. I have a idea. You enter with a card, card records the items in the cart then leave. Am I wrong?

million cameras and sensors everywhere, it knows who you are and where you live and what you grabbed

Rexdragon125 posted...

"Scan item"
"Place item in bagging area"
"Unexpected item in bagging area, please remove"
"Place item in bagging area"
"Unexpected item in bagging area, please remove"
"Place item in bagging area"
"Unexpected item in bagging area, please remove"
"Place item in bagging area"
"Please wait for assistance"

Why is self checkout so slow?????

My Wal-Mart's self-checkout doesn't do any of this. It doesn't even have a scale that's active unless you're buying fruit or something by the pound.

Rexdragon125 posted...

"Scan item"
"Place item in bagging area"
"Unexpected item in bagging area, please remove"
"Place item in bagging area"
"Unexpected item in bagging area, please remove"
"Place item in bagging area"
"Unexpected item in bagging area, please remove"
"Place item in bagging area"
"Please wait for assistance"

Why is self checkout so slow?????

This, too!

Gobstoppers12 posted...

My Wal-Mart's self-checkout doesn't do any of this. It doesn't even have a scale that's active unless you're buying fruit or something by the pound.

ive never seen one not do that across multiple stores

I love it. It'll teach some consumers some humility

Rika_Furude posted...

ive never seen one not do that across multiple stores

I'm just lucky, I guess. I've had nothing but positive experiences at my self-checkout. My Wal-Mart also usually has at least 4 lanes staffed with cashiers, but I always choose the self-checkout lane because it runs through significantly faster. My Aldi doesn't have scales or weird hangups, either. I just scan stuff and toss it back in the cart.

MonkeyBones23 posted...

I like self-checkout as an option, but if I'm buying 50+ items of groceries I don't want to do all that in a self-checkout. For the past few months I've been forced into self-checkout because there are no cashier lanes open.

same here.

they could work, as an option for people who are not bringing more than 10 items or so. If youre doing heavy shopping, or if youre a boomer who cant operate the machine, or youre buying booze or something that needs ID verification, then use the regular checkout lanes.

Dark_Arbron posted...

It wouldnt be as bad though. People who bag groceries for a living are going to be better at it.

I don't really get this...I've been a cashier before. That's how I know that many cashiers are worse than me at it. I feel like enough people on CE have had experience working such jobs and know that there are plenty of bad cashiers.

Ajiri posted...

Thats why I don't feel bad for the corporations when people start adding items into bin but not scanning them, i.e scan one item but put two items in their bin, they feel like they're performing work so they should be compensated for it so why not add on a couple of free goodies here and there

I don't really care for the corporations' sake, but that's just a dumb mentality to excuse shoplifting. It also reeks of a weird "I need to be served" energy like how Chic-Fil-A has the employees fill up your soda for you instead of having you "degrade" yourself by having to bring it over to the fountain yourself.

ZMythos posted...

So how does, say, 6 manned checkout lanes make this better vs. 6 self checkout lanes?

You have 6 lines as apposed to 1 long one.

VeggetaX posted...

I love it. It'll teach some consumers some humility

Manager. NOW!!!!

ZMythos posted...

So how does, say, 6 manned checkout lanes make this better vs. 6 self checkout lanes?

Manned checkout lanes are a hell of a lot faster than self checkout, especially when you have a basket full of items.

Target is the only place I've ever seen a crowded self-checkout. Unfortunately a lot of people somehow live in 2023 but ate too stupid to handle simple technology, or to go to a different register/different store if they see a giant line.

Nothing says pro-worker like TC wanting workers to wait on the customer's every little need like the good little servants they are.

"But people should get underpaid to degrade themselves in service jobs because that will really punish the rich CEOs!"

hockeybub89 posted...

Nothing says pro-worker like TC wanting workers to wait on the customer's every little need like the good little servants they are.

"But people should get underpaid to degrade themselves in service jobs because that will really punish the rich CEOs!"

Lmao wut

WingsOfGood posted...

Lmao wit

You'd rather have people be cashiers and other service workers and bend to customer's every whim than to automate the processes.

I think all these big-box stores and chain restaurants should automate. They can either master the process, or crash and burn when they piss off everyone with their long lines and bullshit.

hockeybub89 posted...

Did you really edit my reply from wut to wit?

HOLY

And your argument is nonsense as self checkout is monitored by a guy or two who does that anyways.
Proper pay is what workers want and self checkout threatens that.

Damn. People still go to target. I think I've been there once since I was a kid.

TerraSeeker posted...

Damn. People still go to target. I think I've been there once since I was a kid.

Women love Target for some reason. Just look at the picture, it's mostly women and the one dude sticking out is just there to hold shit.

voldothegr8 posted...

Women love Target for some reason. Just look at the picture, it's mostly women and the one dude sticking out is just there to hold shit.

Oh boy

>.>

I mean don't take my word for it, it's fact.

https://www.businessinsider.com/typical-target-shopper-demographic-white-millennial-woman-earning-middle-income-2021-7

WingsOfGood posted...

Did you really edit my reply from wut to wit?

HOLY

And your argument is nonsense as self checkout is monitored by a guy or two who does that anyways.
Proper pay is what workers want and self checkout threatens that.

I think I hit backspace on accident and it autocorrected "wut" lmao

And I really don't want people to work these jobs. Besides, automation is a wonderful thing and I think we should fully embrace it.

hockeybub89 posted...

I think I hit backspace on accident and it autocorrected "wut" lmao

And I really don't want people to work these jobs.

you dont want people working at physical stores
so you just want everyone working for amazon delivering everything you need interesting

potdnewb posted...

you dont want people working at physical stores
so you just want everyone working for amazon delivering everything you need interesting

Are those the only two possibilities?

People degrading themselves working sevice jobs for major corporations, or literally every physical business on the planet disappearing and Amazon robots taking over the world?

I'd rather be unemployed than work at Target, or Amazon.

Our apartment wont hire an elevator operator. We have to press the buttons. So inefficient.