Current Events > What are Likelihood countries get involved in Israels current fight w/ Hamas?

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Yawn_Master2
10/13/23 12:11:35 PM
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Iran wants to end Israel and thwart its ally-ship with Saudi Arabia.
Lebanon is danger close to the fighting
U.S. wants to preserve Israel.

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Yawn_Master2
10/13/23 1:00:19 PM
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Thoughts?

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Questionmarktarius
10/13/23 1:25:26 PM
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US is already in "proxy war" mode.
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ellis123
10/13/23 1:27:22 PM
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Define "involved." The US has been giving Israel weapons/support for the last several decades and the current conflict is hardly anything new, so you can basically just say 100% and be correct as countries have already been involved.

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Questionmarktarius
10/13/23 1:31:18 PM
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Is Lebanon itself in any position to "get involved"? It's still economically crippled from that harbor explosion a couple or three years ago.
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darkmaian23
10/13/23 1:32:17 PM
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The US isn't likely to actively join, right?

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Questionmarktarius
10/13/23 1:33:38 PM
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If the US ever puts in a base in Tel-Megiddo, you know shit's about to get biblical.
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creativerealms
10/13/23 1:35:47 PM
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darkmaian23 posted...
The US isn't likely to actively join, right?
Depends on what you mean by getting involved. If you mean giving them military funding? We already are invooved.

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darkmaian23
10/13/23 1:37:48 PM
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creativerealms posted...
Depends on what you mean by getting involved. If you mean giving them military funding? We already are invooved.
I mean like bomb Gaza ourselves or send soldiers. In other words, War on Terror 2.0.

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UnholyMudcrab
10/13/23 1:38:23 PM
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No one else is going to put troops on the ground.

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Questionmarktarius
10/13/23 1:39:24 PM
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If anything, the US would take the excuse to invade Lebanon again, or maybe Iran.
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creativerealms
10/13/23 1:39:28 PM
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darkmaian23 posted...
I mean like bomb Gaza ourselves or send soldiers. In other words, War on Terror 2.0.
I hope not.

Though the irony is the same people who don't even want us to give money to Ukraine would be more then happy if our soldiers started personally attacking Gaza. They are not anti-war they just prefer the targets being muslim.

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Yawn_Master2
10/14/23 4:50:37 AM
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Burp

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IceCreamOnStero
10/14/23 5:05:48 AM
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What do you mean by involved? As a proxy war, seveeral countries have been involved for decades. Actual declarations of war, unlikely.

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Dark_Arbron
10/14/23 5:18:04 AM
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Pulling out of Afghanistan only to jump right back in to the same part of the world will give people War on Terror flashbacks and probably destroy much of Bidens support. Bad idea.

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AzNDarkSamurai
10/14/23 5:23:54 AM
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doesnt Russia back Hamas? If so, I wouldnt be surprised if Putin sticks his nose in

wouldnt shock me if China also got involved too for global clout like they have been craving forever

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Yawn_Master2
10/14/23 3:14:57 PM
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Russia is way too bogged down w/ Ukraine. China does not concern itself with these types of wars.

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Yawn_Master2
10/15/23 1:38:31 AM
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Right?

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Trelve
10/15/23 2:43:04 AM
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AzNDarkSamurai posted...
doesnt Russia back Hamas? If so, I wouldnt be surprised if Putin sticks his nose in

wouldnt shock me if China also got involved too for global clout like they have been craving forever
Russia is allies with Iran who backs Hamas. Doesn't mean that Putin supports Hamas though as Israel has stayed neutral on Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
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Questionmarktarius
10/15/23 2:47:01 AM
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Russia giving Gaza surplus soviet tanks would somehow be a bad thing for Gaza.
T-34 is the best tank Russia ever had, and even that's not so great. A 1979 Merkava will chop that up in seconds.
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Foppe
10/15/23 2:58:23 AM
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You think Russia got surplus tanks to give away?

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Questionmarktarius
10/15/23 3:00:43 AM
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Foppe posted...
You think Russia got surplus tanks to give away?
They still have the only two Panzer 8 Maus tanks that ever existed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_VIII_Maus

One of them still runs.
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Ubergeneral3
10/15/23 3:53:28 AM
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none no one wants an endless war.

And Iran never said anything about wanting to destroy israel. The media is just telling you that lie so they have an excuse to go to war with them.

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Questionmarktarius
10/15/23 4:01:23 AM
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Ubergeneral3 posted...
And Iran never said anything about wanting to destroy israel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Israel_relations
In April 2022, President Ebrahim Raisi declared in the speech for military parade that "Iran's armed forces will target Israel's heart if it makes 'the slightest move'".

Israel already did that, forty years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Opera
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Foppe
10/15/23 4:02:29 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
They still have the only two Panzer 8 Maus tanks that ever existed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_VIII_Maus

One of them still runs.
That belongs in a museum.

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Questionmarktarius
10/15/23 4:04:53 AM
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Foppe posted...
That belongs in a museum.
It is in a museum.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubinka_Tank_Museum

When Russia rolls out the Maus to go after Ukraine, you know they're getting desperate.
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Fenriswolf
10/15/23 6:03:49 AM
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AzNDarkSamurai posted...
doesnt Russia back Hamas? If so, I wouldnt be surprised if Putin sticks his nose in

Actually Bibi consider Putin to be a personal friend, and when the previous Israeli PM slightly criticized Putin over the Ukraine invasion, Bibi accused him of trying to ruin Israel's relations with Russia.

Geopolitics is weird like that. It is completely in Israel's interests to maintain good relations with Russia due to its regional influence, not to mention a large number of Likud supporters are Russian immigrants who also support United Russia.

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ZaruenKosai
10/15/23 6:09:44 AM
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Fenriswolf posted...
Actually Bibi consider Putin to be a personal friend, and when the previous Israeli PM slightly criticized Putin over the Ukraine invasion, Bibi accused him of trying to ruin Israel's relations with Russia.

Geopolitics is weird like that. It is completely in Israel's interests to maintain good relations with Russia due to its regional influence, not to mention a large number of Likud supporters are Russian immigrants who also support United Russia.
its in no ones interest to ally with russia.. ever


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Fenriswolf
10/15/23 6:15:27 AM
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ZaruenKosai posted...
its in no ones interest to ally with russia.. ever

They're not exactly Russian allies though. And since its founding Israel always had a pragmatic foreign policy where they establish relations with willing states even if they're sanctioned by the rest of the world. For instance apartheid South Africa, which they helped developed nuclear weapons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93South_Africa_Agreement

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PrettyBoyFloyd
10/15/23 6:22:15 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
If the US ever puts in a base in Tel-Megiddo, you know shit's about to get biblical.

Indeed.

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Nukazie
10/15/23 6:34:50 AM
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50%

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luigi33
10/15/23 7:43:00 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
If anything, the US would take the excuse to invade Lebanon again, or maybe Iran.
USA does -not- want to invade Iran. That would be a EXTREMELY bloody and messy war.

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Shadow_Don
10/15/23 7:45:51 AM
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Yea anyone suggesting that Biden wants to invade Iran is a fucking bozo.

Literally the reason those CSGs were sent over is to prevent Hezbollah from attacking and preventing more conflict spilling over.

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PrettyBoyFloyd
10/15/23 8:05:15 AM
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Invading Iran would cause some real shit.

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pikachupwnage
10/15/23 8:11:21 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
No one else is going to put troops on the ground.

Yeah. We might use missles or the air force though.

We arent getting boots on the ground unless a huge coalition against Israel emerges or WW3 starts. If its just Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas Israel will get some material maybe some and maybe we blow shit up with missles and such.

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SpiritSephiroth
10/15/23 8:13:23 AM
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Iran getting involved would probably escalate things really badly

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Yawn_Master2
10/15/23 7:39:02 PM
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https://youtu.be/3LzGceJmZiM?si=_DmkfkE7pQDuSEMP

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