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NeonTentacles
09/09/23 4:33:14 AM
#101:


SSJGrimReaper posted...
this topic literally turned into a serious dna studies and ancestry debate lmao
People just cant accept that Lex Luthor is black

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/9/3/AAfWomAAE0w1.jpg

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ROBANN_88
09/09/23 4:37:24 AM
#102:


Knuckles is bright Red, though
And Piccolo is Green
Tails is, i don't know, Orange or something

I don't get it, is this about their voice actors being black?

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Turtlebread
09/09/23 4:39:30 AM
#103:


Hes black and Im tired of pretending hes not.

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TheSavageDragon
09/09/23 4:41:29 AM
#104:


NeonTentacles posted...
People just cant accept that Lex Luthor is black

It's cute how it's just same few people desperately holding onto their meme.
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MARlO
09/09/23 4:47:40 AM
#105:


Ferroseed posted...
hes actually telling the truth. it was on the mk1 board where the mod/s have modded some..lets just say questionable things

tho i think the post that got deleted was "kratos is a brotha" or something similar, as the "kratos is black" post is either still up or got put back
Well then thats a stupid moderation. Im black, my friends are black, and we always joke around that kratos is a black dude too. I dont see the harm in it.

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MARlO
09/09/23 4:51:59 AM
#106:


YugiNoob posted...
Kratos is black

*Waiting for moderation, since this is literally the whole story*
A mod confirmed he should dispute it. So yes, it was the whole story.

@YugiNoob

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nocturnal_traveler
09/09/23 4:53:11 AM
#107:


jumi posted...
Japanese gyaru.
Lol I can see it now !

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YugiNoob
09/09/23 5:11:11 AM
#108:


MARlO posted...
A mod confirmed he should dispute it. So yes, it was the whole story.

@YugiNoob
Apparently so

Although technically its still moddable, depending on how petty the mods want to be. As that mod mentioned, hes wrong. And posting false information as a fact is moddable.

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Bernard9118
09/09/23 5:23:19 AM
#109:


ArtiRock posted...
It literally isn't science. It's been wrong for years.
Right!
Nothing to do with skulls, it is all just in our heads.

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ai123
09/09/23 5:32:18 AM
#110:


Bernard9118 posted...
Right!
Nothing to do with skulls, it is all just in our heads.

Skulls are not a foolproof way of determining race. There's no checklist of features that are shared by all people. Variation within categories is greater than that between categories.

That's discredited Victorian-era 'race science'. Which isn't the kind of 'science' you want to be endorsing.


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NeonTentacles
09/09/23 7:35:53 AM
#111:


TheSavageDragon posted...
It's cute how it's just same few people desperately holding onto their meme.
Sorry you hate seeing people have some fun and be happy for a smart, strong, self-made role model

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TheSavageDragon
09/09/23 7:51:10 AM
#112:


NeonTentacles posted...
Sorry you hate seeing people have some fun and be happy for a smart, strong, self-made role model

I said it's cute. Acting like the Joker fanboys do is less so.
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MacadamianNut3
09/09/23 8:14:26 AM
#113:


Kratos is black
Lex Luthor is black
Russell Crowe imblackyo.gif

lmfao did somebody actually bring up phrenology in this topic like a dumbass

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A_Good_Boy
09/09/23 9:37:57 AM
#114:


Where are the Osborns on the list of black characters? That father and son duo had them 360s that'll get you seasick. No wonder why Spider-Man hates so fucking hard.

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Nirvanas_Nox
09/09/23 2:48:33 PM
#115:


Saying Lex Luthor and Kratos are black is like someone saying that Ryu or Akuma from street fighter is white (theyre not).

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Trumble
09/09/23 2:49:58 PM
#116:


It's really not up for debate that very dumb moderations happen on this site quite frequently.

Whether that's actually what happened in any specific case is another question, of course...

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Trumble
09/09/23 2:50:13 PM
#117:


Nirvanas_Nox posted...
Saying Lex Luthor and Kratos are black is like someone saying that Ryu or Akuma from street fighter is white (theyre not).
Tag checks out.

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Zonbei
09/09/23 2:59:12 PM
#118:


fan357 posted...
Twice in a row? Highly unlikely.

I have four siblings. Two of them look black, two of them dont. It happens.

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StealThisSheen
09/09/23 3:46:38 PM
#119:


YugiNoob posted...
Apparently so

Although technically its still moddable, depending on how petty the mods want to be. As that mod mentioned, hes wrong. And posting false information as a fact is moddable.

It's too vague for that. "Kratos is black" could mean any number of things. It could mean the voice actor is black, for example. Add on to that the fact that Kratos's skin color has varied between media, from darker shades to lighter, and the fact that there has been nothing said definitively in either direction, you can't really call it "misinformation."

Now, if the devs straight up came out and said "Kratos is officially a white guy," then yes, it could be seen as trolling, but they never have, and thus it is a technically disputable idea.

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FunWithAFryPan
09/09/23 3:48:24 PM
#120:


Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
You know forensic anthropologists can determine race from just a skull, right
This is absolutely false.

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StealThisSheen
09/09/23 3:51:04 PM
#121:


Also, since it was pointed out that the post was on the MK1 board, I love the inconsistency that a post saying "Kratos is black" was modded, and yet the dozens of posts of people trying to say "Tanya is white" have never once been modded, even when posted in more obviously trolling ways.

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fan357
09/09/23 4:18:51 PM
#122:


Zonbei posted...
I have four siblings. Two of them look black, two of them dont. It happens.

In a video game? Seems strange to not have his children look black at all.

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StealThisSheen
09/09/23 4:33:14 PM
#123:


fan357 posted...
In a video game? Seems strange to not have his children look black at all.

No matter what you think he is, his children are portrayed as being much lighter in skin tone than he is, regardless, so I'm not really sure it's proof of anything, as far as the debate goes.

And, to be fair, it was a clear design choice. They purposely made his children look more like their mothers than him. That's not to say he's black, but that was obviously the intention.

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Giblet_Enjoyer
09/09/23 6:46:30 PM
#124:


Nirvanas_Nox posted...
Saying Lex Luthor and Kratos are black is like someone saying that Ryu or Akuma from street fighter is white (theyre not).
Lex Luthor is depicted as black sometimes, tbf. Also who the hell ever says Ryu is white

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YugiNoob
09/09/23 10:20:10 PM
#125:


StealThisSheen posted...
It's too vague for that. "Kratos is black" could mean any number of things. It could mean the voice actor is black, for example. Add on to that the fact that Kratos's skin color has varied between media, from darker shades to lighter, and the fact that there has been nothing said definitively in either direction, you can't really call it "misinformation."

Now, if the devs straight up came out and said "Kratos is officially a white guy," then yes, it could be seen as trolling, but they never have, and thus it is a technically disputable idea.
But like I said, it all depends on the pettiness of the mods. I got modded for posting false information as a fact when I said AOC wanted to abolish ICE, which, unlike this situation, is a 100% objective fact. I responded with 10 articles all from different sources and it still got upheld.

So even if before the incident the devs had flat out said Kratos is black, that would still be within the realm of moderation. Would it be a reasonable moderation? Hell no. But sadly, the fact remains that sometimes the mods just refuse to admit theyre wrong.

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Nirvanas_Nox
09/09/23 11:55:34 PM
#126:


Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Lex Luthor is depicted as black sometimes, tbf. Also who the hell ever says Ryu is white

Maybe he has been but the meme people keep bringing up is NOT a black Lex Luthor. I can google TAS Lex and itll bring up more pictures of him with a way lighter skin tone. Im pretty sure that the shading in that meme was just a bit different in that shot. I'm not saying anyone has said Ryu is white. I was just making an example. This pic of lex is also from TAS. How the hell is he black here? https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/0/7/AAVpk6AAE07_.jpg

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MARlO
09/10/23 12:02:20 AM
#127:


Nirvanas_Nox posted...
Maybe he has been but the meme people keep bringing up is NOT a black Lex Luthor. I can google TAS Lex and itll bring up more pictures of him with a way lighter skin tone. Im pretty sure that the shading in that meme was just a bit different in that shot. I'm not saying anyone has said Ryu is white. I was just making an example. This pic of lex is also from TAS. How the hell is he black here? https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/0/7/AAVpk6AAE07_.jpg
Was TAS Lex voiced by a black dude? Cuz he sure sounded black.

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jumi
09/10/23 1:22:42 AM
#128:


MARlO posted...
Was TAS Lex voiced by a black dude? Cuz he sure sounded black.

Clancy Brown, the bad guy in Highlander, who's white.

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Sega9599
09/10/23 2:07:17 AM
#129:


StealThisSheen posted...
No matter what you think he is, his children are portrayed as being much lighter in skin tone than he is, regardless, so I'm not really sure it's proof of anything, as far as the debate goes.

And, to be fair, it was a clear design choice. They purposely made his children look more like their mothers than him. That's not to say he's black, but that was obviously the intention.

Which is why 'race' although it's necessary to identify ethnicity for some instances, needs to be held very lightly as a social construct only

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ROBANN_88
09/10/23 3:07:52 AM
#130:


MARlO posted...
Was TAS Lex voiced by a black dude? Cuz he sure sounded black.

Does the skin colour of a voice actor determine the skin colour of the character now?
Is that what this whole thing is about?

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Irony
09/10/23 3:10:03 AM
#131:


MARlO posted...
Was TAS Lex voiced by a black dude? Cuz he sure sounded black.
TIL I learned Samurai Jack is black

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ROBANN_88
09/10/23 3:12:06 AM
#132:


Is Darth Vader black?

Anakin Skywalker is white, but as soon as he puts on the helmet and goes "nooo", is he black now?

Does he revert back to white when he's dying and take the helmet off again?

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Revelation34
09/10/23 9:18:57 AM
#133:


StealThisSheen posted...


It's too vague for that. "Kratos is black" could mean any number of things. It could mean the voice actor is black, for example. Add on to that the fact that Kratos's skin color has varied between media, from darker shades to lighter, and the fact that there has been nothing said definitively in either direction, you can't really call it "misinformation."

Now, if the devs straight up came out and said "Kratos is officially a white guy," then yes, it could be seen as trolling, but they never have, and thus it is a technically disputable idea.


No it can't. A black voice actor doesn't mean the character itself is the same race.

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Slayer_22
09/10/23 9:24:51 AM
#134:


Turbam posted...
A list of black characters in media:

* Lex Luthor
* Kratos
* Knuckles
* Piccolo
* Miles Prower
* Dunkey
* Han Juri
He's actually of Puerto Rican descent OOOOH.

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Foppe
09/10/23 10:39:59 AM
#135:


ROBANN_88 posted...
Does the skin colour of a voice actor determine the skin colour of the character now?
Is that what this whole thing is about?
The Simpsons is woke since they turned Bart into a white woman.

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Agonized_rufous
09/10/23 10:41:39 AM
#136:


His voice and body actor are black

Rip body actor

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Nirvanas_Nox
09/11/23 4:29:48 AM
#137:


His voice actor is black yes but that doesn't make Kratos black. Just like it doesn't make Bart or Goku a woman because they are voiced by women.

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MacadamianNut3
09/11/23 5:29:37 PM
#138:


Kratos is black and my mental lambo is blue

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Mussurana
09/11/23 5:41:42 PM
#139:


Agonized_rufous posted...
His voice and body actor are black

Rip body actor
David Prowse wasn't black.

Seemed a decent fella though, came to my infants school (kindergarten) as the Green Cross Code man many years ago.

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SSJGrimReaper
09/11/23 9:10:07 PM
#140:


Ansem is black

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StealThisSheen
09/11/23 9:14:37 PM
#141:


Revelation34 posted...
No it can't. A black voice actor doesn't mean the character itself is the same race.

Nope, because "X is Y" can be a vague statement, and is in this case. People say stuff like "X character is *insert VA name here*," even though the character obviously isn't literally that person. Thus, a statement as simple as "Kratos is black" is vague enough to mean any number of things. Race isn't specified in that statement.

I know how upset you get over the idea of black people, though, so I understand why you lost your head a bit and had to post that.

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KrayzieBonezz
09/11/23 9:16:42 PM
#142:


MacadamianNut3 posted...
Kratos is black and my mental lambo is blue
.......Riley?

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ViewtifulGrave
09/11/23 9:18:15 PM
#143:


hockeybub89 posted...
He's not black and neither is Lex Luthor
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/6/7/AAU2gcAADUin.jpg

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Giblet_Enjoyer
09/11/23 10:31:02 PM
#144:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/3/8/AAXQ7ZAAE1T6.jpg

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MacadamianNut3
09/12/23 1:48:29 PM
#145:


Not only is every single fictional character + Dunkey in this topic black, but this guy is also black

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u96NFQYVR4w

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Revelation34
09/14/23 1:56:06 PM
#146:


StealThisSheen posted...


Nope, because "X is Y" can be a vague statement, and is in this case. People say stuff like "X character is *insert VA name here*," even though the character obviously isn't literally that person. Thus, a statement as simple as "Kratos is black" is vague enough to mean any number of things. Race isn't specified in that statement.

I know how upset you get over the idea of black people, though, so I understand why you lost your head a bit and had to post that.


LMAO.

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Dathrowed1
09/14/23 1:57:42 PM
#147:


He is Greek and no one confused Ionians for Ethiopians

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MARlO
09/16/23 12:23:13 AM
#148:


Irony posted...
TIL I learned Samurai Jack is black
Nah Jack is voiced by the skinny black dude from Mad TV. He actually voices a lot of people in cartoons.

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