Current Events > RENOWNED physicist Michio Kaku now ONBOARD to UAP(UFO) dicslosure!

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hockeybub89 posted...

Remember when TC swore he wasn't implying aliens?

Yes that is what my thread explaining the meaning of UFO was about. Neither did Michio Kaku say aliens in the video here.

_____Cait posted...

I feel like whenever we get a UFO topic, half the people in it think it is about aliens and the other half reminds people it isnt Liens, then the first group gets really insulted because they dont know that UFO is not always alien, and fights break out

welp they are literally doing it again

guess your post upset them and know they gotta defend that ego

WingsOfGood posted...

welp they are literally doing it again

guess your post upset them and know they gotta defend that ego

where are we doing that

we legit have said we know what UFO means

you keep making these topics refusing to back up anything

AceMos posted...

where are we doing that

we legit have said we know what UFO means

you keep making these topics refusing to back up anything

it's the little cope that they all love for some reason. pretending the issue lies in the specifics of their claims, rather than the factual foundation.

AceMos posted...

you keep making these topics refusing to back up anything

you do not believe Michio Kaku said "now the military has to PROVE that these are NOT extra-terrestial. we ask the military now, can YOU explain it?"
in the video I posted?

Might fix your eyes I suppose.

And before you fail at critical logic, him saying that isn't saying it is aliens but that the shift requires the military to explain the video evidence is a balloon for instance.

Frolex posted...

pretending the issue lies in the specifics of their claims,

I provided video of my claims in the op

attempt to disprove it

you cant prove a negative

and you just admitted you are wanting to push the idea its aliens

AceMos posted...

and you just admitted you are wanting to push the idea its aliens

WingsOfGood posted...

And before you fail at critical logic, him saying that isn't saying it is aliens but that the shift requires the military to explain the video evidence is a balloon for instance.

however could I have predict such a failure of thought?

and that is not me btw

WingsOfGood posted...

I provided video of my claims in the op

attempt to disprove it

I am your real, biological father and your parents never told you the truth because they were too ashamed of themselves

attempt to disprove it

your opening post is him demanding the military prove its not aliens

which is clearly you trying to push the idea you think its aliens

until we have a good clear video of these things im going to continue to treat it as the joke it is and laugh at ppl like you falling for 70 year old trick from the government

VFalcone posted...

Belief in UFOs/aliens isn't right-wing in the slightest though. Its much closer to being general folklore. Like bigfoot and ghosts

Here's comes the defenders...

That's not what I said. It's the lack of critical thinking and conspiracy culture that the right wing has cultivated. When they get you to believe Obama is a Muslim and Trump won the 2020 election - of course the gov is hiding UFOs and vaccines are fake.

poor Frolex
argued with a strawman and lost

WingsOfGood posted...

Yes that is what my thread explaining the meaning of UFO was about. Neither did Michio Kaku say aliens in the video here.

WingsOfGood posted...

according to him the burden of proof has shifted "now the military has to PROVE that these are NOT extra-terrestial. we ask the military now, can YOU explain it?"

So what ARE extra-terrestrials then?

Torgo posted...

Here's comes the defenders...

That's not what I said. It's the lack of critical thinking and conspiracy culture that the right wing has cultivated. When they get you to believe Obama is a Muslim and Trump won the 2020 election - of course the gov is hiding UFOs and vaccines are fake.

and yet the conspiracists all were against the UAP hearings

they were quite vocal this was a government conspiracy to distract from stuff like Biden laptop

@Torgo

How does it feel to side with them?

it's okay son, i still love you

Heineken14 posted...

So what ARE extra-terrestrials then?

fyi he isn't saying that means they are extra-terrestial

he is talking about the principle that the military now needs to debunk said videos because of the view they offer of objects breaking the limits of what we know a craft or object can do

the ball is now in their court to explain what they are he says

WingsOfGood posted...

the ball is now in their court to explain what they are he says

...why would it be?

Kim_Seong-a posted...

...why would it be?

that is what he talks about in the video, did you watch it?

once again if you want me to believe these are ANYTHING im going to need to see a clear video

until then its nothing

AceMos posted...

once again if you want me to believe these are ANYTHING im going to need to see a clear video

until then its nothing

I gave you the video that Michio Kaku is now onboard to UAP disclosure
my claims thus have been supported by the evidence you ask for

why do you now deny that Michio Kaku is now onboard to UAP disclosure?

Torgo posted...

Here's comes the defenders...

That's not what I said. It's the lack of critical thinking and conspiracy culture that the right wing has cultivated. When they get you to believe Obama is a Muslim and Trump won the 2020 election - of course the gov is hiding UFOs and vaccines are fake.

I'm not defending anything here lol. This topic is dumb and a trainwreck. At this point I'm only watching. The whole video is Michio saying he just wants evidence. He never even says he believes aliens have visited.

WingsOfGood posted...

I gave you the video that Michio Kaku is now onboard to UAP disclosure
my claims thus have been supported by the evidence you ask for

why do you now deny that Michio Kaku is now onboard to UAP disclosure?

not what i asked for

AceMos posted...

not what i asked for

you asked me to support my claims with evidence
that is what you asked for

WingsOfGood posted...

that is what he talks about in the video, did you watch it?

My question was rhetorical. That's not how the burden of proof works and nobody is required to explain shit just because some people looked at a video and thought "wow that doesn't make sense"

WingsOfGood posted...

you asked me to support my claims with evidence
that is what you asked for

yes i want a very clear video of these things you wont stop posting about

AceMos posted...

yes i want a very clear video of these things you wont stop posting about

Read the thread title

what part of title are you refuting?

Kim_Seong-a posted...

My question was rhetorical. That's not how the burden of proof works and nobody is required to explain shit just because some people looked at a video and thought "wow that doesn't make sense"

some people isn't Michio Kaku
look up who he is then watch the video and understand what he is saying

WingsOfGood posted...

some people isn't Michio Kaku
look up who he is then watch the video and understand what he is saying

Michio Kaku isn't owed an explanation just because he looked at a video and thought "wow this doesn't make sense"

WingsOfGood posted...

some people isn't Michio Kaku
look up who he is then watch the video and understand what he is saying

we dont care if he is jesus christ reborn its still not how the burden of proof works

You keep saying "You don't know who Michio Kaku is" but it's because I know who he is that this is all unsurprising to me.

man you guys are lazy to a fault:

transcribed:

Lady:" You say we are now in the middle of a change when it comes to UFO sightings, you say the burden of proof has shifted, what do you mean by that?"

Michio:"That is right it used to be when you had farmers and school teachers talking about they saw something in the sky the military would simply giggle laugh and say, ha that is not proof. But now the burden of proof has shifted, now the military has to prove these are not extraterrestial. Now that we have the video tapes SHOWING these things are executing maneuvers we cannot use our own aircraft to duplicate.
We ask the military, can you explain it now?

A well known scientist lacks critical thinking?

Classic CE.

I can't wait until some government reveals these are their terrestrial projects and we can all stop fucking hearing about UAPs/UFOs.

WingsOfGood posted...

That is right it used to be when you had farmers and school teachers talking about they saw something in the sky the military would simply giggle laugh and say, ha that is not proof. But now the burden of proof has shifted, now the military has to prove these are not extraterrestial. Now that we have the video tapes SHOWING these things are executing we cannot use our own aircraft to duplicate.
We ask the military, can you explain it now?

That still isn't how the burden of proof works lmao.

hockeybub89 posted...

I can't wait until some government reveals these are their terrestrial projects and we can all stop fucking hearing about UAPs/UFOs.

why would you stop hearing about them then? I suppose they would no longer be UAP with the U but then it would be a big thing to have that technology

"Now it's their turn to prove this isn't one of God's miracles"

Kim_Seong-a posted...

That still isn't how the burden of proof works lmao.

Michio wants data and disclosure.
It totally is if you understood a lick of what he was saying or took time to watch the video. Again like I explained and you guys FAILED to understand, he isn't saying they are aliens but that we have a body of evidence suggesting there is something to be explained and that more hearings and supporting disclosure is important.

Infact you talking about burden of proof should know they would say things were weather balloons back in the day that were not infact weather balloons. Now the shift means they cannot just write such sightings off with ease but have to now explain for example and prove it was a weather balloon.

WingsOfGood posted...

why would you stop hearing about them then? I suppose they would no longer be UAP with the U but then it would be a big thing to have that technology

Because I'm so tired of people even entertaining the idea of these even possibly being extraterrestrial.

And don't give me "Science doesn't make declarative statements" or some shit because no one is considering that these UAPs may be unicorns or Santa Claus or a sentient pair of underpants. That would truly be ruling nothing out.

The way some people talk of UAPs reminds me of agnostics. "We don't know whether or not God is real" Yet you're not considering maybe Talos is real.

hockeybub89 posted...

Because I'm so tired of people even entertaining the idea of these even possibly being extraterrestrial.

And don't give me "Science doesn't make declarative statements" or some shit because no one is considering that these UAPs may be unicorns or Santa Claus or a sentient pair of underpants. That would truly be ruling nothing out.

An interesting comparison. AceMos for examples believes aliens exist somewhere.
I don't know anyone believes Santa actually does.

hockeybub89 posted...

Because I'm so tired of people even entertaining the idea of these even possibly being extraterrestrial

This statement is interesting as well.

You are...tired of it? Why did you enter this thread? Does all your friends talk about it?

It seems to me many who are "tired of it" simply made a kneejerk conclusion and when this hearing happened it threatened said conclusion they tied to their egos and they couldn't have that and decided to argue about it rather than just watch or see what the senators and whistleblowers were saying.

I literally just report on this and don't believe aliens are out there and people who do get mad and start berating me. It is wild. Like actual alien believers are some in this thread being the most vocal antagonistically.

example: one day guy just goes "my core belief is aliens exist cause universe big but will never visit us!"
why? he just decided it.

Hearings happen. NO WAY BUT I HAD DECIDED THAT COULDN'T BE! I AM MAD!

That is actually weird behavior.

In addition a renown Physicist calls for more disclosure and hearings and explain shift in burden of proof.
HE IS HACK! NO CRITICAL THINKING!

that is weird behavior.

In for project blue beam

12amMadman posted...

In for project blue beam

explain
what is that?

@12amMadman posted...

WingsOfGood posted...

and yet the conspiracists all were against the UAP hearings

they were quite vocal this was a government conspiracy to distract from stuff like Biden laptop

@Torgo

How does it feel to side with them?

I don't give a shit who you are trying to lump me in with, if the conspiracy lunatics accidentally stumble on the skeptical and reasonable position for once, that has no bearing on the validity of the findings. You can believe the right things for bad reasons - a broken clock is technically correct twice a day.

If there are extra-terrestrials and we have evidence, then I will believe it as the credible evidence is presented. Until then It's foolish to declare you know one way or the other.

Torgo posted...

If there are extra-terrestrials and we have evidence, then I will believe it as the credible evidence is presented. Until then It's foolish to declare you know one way or the other.

So what issue do you have then? That is the whole point of the hearings.

Did you watch the video? Michio for example just wants data and evidence to figure out what the things people keep reporting and there is video evidence of are.

meanwhile

Torgo posted... f the conspiracy lunatics accidentally stumble on the skeptical and reasonable position for once,

give evidence there is anything reasonable that the UAP hearing was to cover up Biden Laptop bs conspiracy

WingsOfGood posted...

Did you watch the video? Michio for example just wants data and evidence to figure out what the things people keep reporting and there is video evidence of are.

Well we know they definitely are not extraterrestrial.

Frolex posted...

then show me the proof these "far brighter" men have furnished. or do you expect me to be as equally credulous as you in accepting "a smart person said it, so they don't need proof" as a valid method of determining whether a claim is true?

I've made it clear the only thing Ive accepted is that the parties who can put this whole thing at rest arent cooperating for some reason.

Im still not sure how this triggered you to immaturity but its alright man, Im sure this will be done being talked about in a few weeks

WingsOfGood posted...

So what issue do you have then? That is the whole point of the hearings.

My main contention is the certainty with which the conspiracy crowd make their declarations, and the various fallacious narratives they create when each new "revelation" or their "proof" turns up to be very little. It's how they continue to believe and declare with such unearned confidence what they simply do not have enough information to know.

WingsOfGood posted...

give evidence there is anything reasonable that the UAP hearing was to cover up Biden Laptop bs conspiracy

That's not my position. Don't put words in my mouth because your lack of skepticism and critical thinking is difficult to defend.

There is nothing to the Hunter Biden conspiracy nonsense. It's a manufactured wild goose chase.

Torgo posted...

My main contention is the certainty with which the conspiracy crowd make their declarations,

The conspiracy crowd was SURE the hearings were a coverup

once again, they did not accept it even in the slightest

the dude above mentions project blue beam, let us see if he explains it and maybe you will understand more and more how you are acting like a conspiracist not a skeptic to be against the hearings