Current Events > Supreme Court could overrule rent control.

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...on what constitutional basis?

I don't see the problem with this? Why should people live in areas like New York city and pay significantly less other people who just moved there? If they can't afford it then they can move somewhere cheaper

On the constitutional grounds that the people giving them free holidays want it?

...on what constitutional basis?

Why should they be evicted out with ridiculous prices because of where they are? Not everything has to be profit first.

Theres plenty of reasons to dislike rent control, but Id think it would be rather difficult to make an argument that they are unconstitutional.

I don't see the problem with this? Why should people live in areas like New York city and pay significantly less other people who just moved there? If they can't afford it then they can move somewhere cheaper

The supreme court has already shown itself to be corrupt. Their rulings should simply be ignored at this point. They don't have the power to enforce them.

The issue that's developed wit rent controls is that once you get a "stabilized" place, you never leave.
There's a huge shortage of affordable units in NYC because barely any more are being made (a tiny handful of set-asides in luxury buildings), and nobody's moving out of the ones that do exist (after living there several decades, and paying rents from several decades ago).

If the court takes this on, I expect a Boise-type ruling that pisses off everyone: Either rent-control would have to be universal in a jursidiction, or not at all.

Should they be kicked out on the streets because someone else has more money to spend than them?

Should you be obligated to stay in an apartment, when you can get a different one cheaper?

I don't see the problem with this? Why should people live in areas like New York city and pay significantly less other people who just moved there? If they can't afford it then they can move somewhere cheaper

The overprivileged hot take.

You think they would make the price cheaper for the next person?

I recently moved to New York and I pay almost $1,200 a month for a nice little apartment on the lower
East Side. The landlords have been reasonable and the building is clean. Still, when I found out at a
tenants' meeting that 30 of the building's 34 apartments rent for below $300 and that most of the tenants in
those cheap apartments make more money that I do, I was a bit outraged. I understand protecting the old
people, but protecting fellow yuppies with bargains?

how far can this topic go before anyone talks about the actual arguments in this case i wonder

The appeals court also disagreed that rent increase limits create a regulatory taking, a theory that was floated in a dissent by justices Antonin Scalia and Sandra Day O'Connor from the 1988 decision in Pennell v. City of San Jose, arguing that notion had never been adopted by a majority of the court.

how far can this topic go before anyone talks about the actual arguments in this case i wonder

I'm pay walled on a wall street journal article about it

https://archive.is/0JOoS

I remember plotting the lines and determining when they would cross (and I'd be paying more for parking than rent). It wasn't a few years but it was definitely within a few decades.

Should you be obligated to stay in an apartment, when you can get a different one cheaper?

...on what constitutional basis?

Best I can come up with 14th amendment Equal Protection clause, in that only some units are rent-controlled.

We already know it doesn't which is why everyone stays in the rent-controlled units forever.

an old thing from an old thread, awhile ago:

There's no means testing at all, but it's based on who lucked into a unit back when the rent was locked in.

I'd much rather that happen than people be priced out of a basic human right... where do you stand?

But where is cheaper?

There's no "right" to have a home right here, especially when someone else owns it.

So you *don't* believe housing should be a human right?

Oh please, like the Supreme Court gives a fuck about the constitution these days.

I'd much rather that happen than people be priced out of a basic human right... where do you stand?

Rent control measures suppress construction/renovation which in the long term reduces supply and prices people out.

Also can people please stop feeding QMT

Rent control measures suppress construction/renovation which in the long term reduces supply and prices people out.

I'm moving into your place tonight. Better get a bed ready.

Rather, what does get built is "luxury" units and condos, specifically to evade rent controls.

Why do you keep avoiding the question?

Again I'd love to see proof - right now (per your argument of profit always driving everything) companies tend to favor building luxury things like lofts as they'll get more profit.

My opinion is we limit how many housing related properties people (and companies that belong to people / corporate umbrellas) may own. The details are much more complicated, but the idea is not having 10 or 100 properties to take advantage of what should be, but is not, the human right to adequate housing.