Current Events > What changed between Nixon and Trump that made the Rs stand by the latter?

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Doe
08/14/23 10:17:58 PM
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If you look into the history of Watergate, the Republicans who helped break the story were like "I don't disagree with his policy positions, it's just his corruption is unacceptable."

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LSGW_Zephyra
08/14/23 10:18:47 PM
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C'mon this is an easy one: Ronald Regan.

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ScazarMeltex
08/14/23 10:19:15 PM
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An entire network dedicated to giving the GOP base an alternate reality where their guy isn't corrupt. That's the entire reason Fox News was created. Ailes was butthurt about media coverage turning the populace afainst Nixon.

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Doe
08/14/23 11:53:21 PM
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To add to my musing here, it's crazy to me that Gerard Ford got away with pardoning Nixon.

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Tyranthraxus
08/14/23 11:56:53 PM
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Watergate wasn't really what did Nixon in. It was this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Massacre

Trump was considering doing this but I guess somehow he got talked out of it or decided to make everyone's life so miserable that they would voluntarily resign instead.

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Doe
08/14/23 11:58:39 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Watergate wasn't really what did Nixon in. It was this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Massacre
This happened because Nixon was trying to stop the bleeding and

Republicans who helped break the story were like "I don't disagree with his policy positions, it's just his corruption is unacceptable."


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wanderingshade
08/15/23 12:01:14 AM
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Jerry Falwell and all his bullshit? And all the shit the kind of expanded on that with all the Protestants and Evangelicals in politics?

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Solar_Crimson
08/15/23 12:01:58 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
An entire network dedicated to giving the GOP base an alternate reality where their guy isn't corrupt. That's the entire reason Fox News was created. Ailes was butthurt about media coverage turning the populace afainst Nixon.


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darkace77450
08/15/23 12:02:04 AM
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Rupert Murdoch, Rush Limbaugh, and Newt Gingrich dedicated their respective careers to dividing the nation between Rs and Ds and normalizing political corruption from their side.
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flussence
08/15/23 12:02:54 AM
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an extra decade or two of huffing leaded fumes

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Notti
08/18/23 7:47:00 AM
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Propaganda, and the destruction of reputable news sources.

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divot1338
08/18/23 7:49:15 AM
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Shame was still a thing among Republicans in the 1970s.

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KajeI
08/18/23 7:49:53 AM
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Approximately 2.5 generations worth of propaganda and targeted anti-intellectualism strategies.

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action52
08/18/23 8:00:09 AM
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darkace77450 posted...
Rupert Murdoch, Rush Limbaugh, and Newt Gingrich dedicated their respective careers to dividing the nation between Rs and Ds and normalizing political corruption from their side.
This is what it is.

Reagan and the religious right were responsible for the terrible, terrible Republican policies, but these were the people who turned the GOP into a completely bad faith organization that doesn't even care about governing, only winning and keeping political power.

It's because of them that the American right wing barely even has policies anymore.

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Intro2Logic
08/18/23 8:04:45 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
An entire network dedicated to giving the GOP base an alternate reality where their guy isn't corrupt. That's the entire reason Fox News was created. Ailes was butthurt about media coverage turning the populace afainst Nixon.
Correct.

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Euripides
08/18/23 8:08:38 AM
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Social Media. It was easy for the Republicans to turn on Nixon when there was no global mechanism for Nixon supporters to find one another .

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brestugo
08/18/23 8:30:20 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
An entire network dedicated to giving the GOP base an alternate reality where their guy isn't corrupt. That's the entire reason Fox News was created. Ailes was butthurt about media coverage turning the populace afainst Nixon.
This right here.

Throw in Gingrich's "win at all costs" approach, and here we are.

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ejolson
08/18/23 8:42:28 AM
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The culmination of Reagan and the evangelical right. Barry Goldwater said it best, "Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them."

And he was a republican.

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Notti
08/21/23 6:33:49 AM
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ejolson posted...
The culmination of Reagan and the evangelical right. Barry Goldwater said it best, "Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them."

And he was a republican.


And he was beyond awful too.

But fundamentalists completely pervert religion and make it tyrannical.

In their ridiculous attempt to purify the religion they enforce philosophical impossibilities onto people in the real world.

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Bass
08/21/23 6:36:05 AM
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wanderingshade posted...
Jerry Falwell and all his bullshit? And all the shit the kind of expanded on that with all the Protestants and Evangelicals in politics?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_Majority

Like here, tell me this isn't a major cause of shitty Republicans today.
Yup, this bullshit has my mom voting against her own interests each time. Abortion especially.

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