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Takuya_Lee 08/25/23 9:29:31 AM #400:	Trelve posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/7/5/AAC3_mAAEyEr.jpg In other news, the Emperor denies that the Death Star blew up Alderaan and sends his thoughts to their families at this difficult time. "It was a freak accident. A laser just happened to come out of the Death Star it just happened to land on Alderaan." --- Narutaki was right. This is all Decade's fault. <cite>Takuya_Lee posted [p:975653486] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>Trelve posted... </cite><quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/7/5/AAC3_mAAEyEr.jpg In other news, the Emperor denies that the Death Star blew up Alderaan and sends his thoughts to their families at this difficult time.</quote>"It was a freak accident. A laser just happened to come out of the Death Star it just happened to land on Alderaan." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chev427BB 08/25/23 9:34:31 AM #401:	Xenogears15 posted... If Ukraine have actually breached the second line of defense, if Ukraine could relatively quickly clear the km-long trench networks running east-to-west in the immediate areas of the frontline there...then it's possible to do a roll up on Rissian positions north and south of said trenches, I guess? Still definitely taking this with a huge grain of salt, especially since I haven't seen it reported anywhere else. If this is actually happening we should know about it for sure in the next few days. Till then we'll probably only hear rumors and unconfirmed reports about it due to opsec. --- Fight - You will win! Slava Ukraini! <cite>Chev427BB posted [p:975653560] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>Xenogears15 posted... </cite><quote>If Ukraine have actually breached the second line of defense, if Ukraine could relatively quickly clear the km-long trench networks running east-to-west in the immediate areas of the frontline there...then it's possible to do a roll up on Rissian positions north and south of said trenches, I guess? Still definitely taking this with a huge grain of salt, especially since I haven't seen it reported anywhere else.</quote>If this is actually happening we should know about it for sure in the next few days. Till then we'll probably only hear rumors and unconfirmed reports about it due to opsec. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xenogears15 08/25/23 9:38:48 AM #402:	Chev427BB posted... If this is actually happening we should know about it for sure in the next few days. Till then we'll probably only hear rumors and unconfirmed reports about it due to opsec. Not entirely true. We'd hear about losses that large from Russian milbloggers, too. We'd get some sort of idea what's coming. We'll get hints in the next few hours of there's anything to this. --- This rant was brought to you by your local random thinker. I'm as Canadian as Wayne Gretzky crashing a snowmobile into a moose. - JIC X <cite>Xenogears15 posted [p:975653618] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>Chev427BB posted... </cite><quote>If this is actually happening we should know about it for sure in the next few days. Till then we'll probably only hear rumors and unconfirmed reports about it due to opsec.</quote>Not entirely true. We'd hear about losses that large from Russian milbloggers, too. We'd get some sort of idea what's coming. We'll get hints in the next few hours of there's anything to this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338 08/25/23 9:45:36 AM #403:	Xenogears15 posted... Not entirely true. We'd hear about losses that large from Russian milbloggers, too. We'd get some sort of idea what's coming. We'll get hints in the next few hours of there's anything to this. If they got routed that badly there probably wouldnt be many survivors to let that information get out. --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey <cite>divot1338 posted [p:975653726] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>Xenogears15 posted... </cite><quote>Not entirely true. We'd hear about losses that large from Russian milbloggers, too. We'd get some sort of idea what's coming. We'll get hints in the next few hours of there's anything to this.</quote>If they got routed that badly there probably wouldnt be many survivors to let that information get out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 08/25/23 9:47:11 AM #404:	Didn't they just hit the 1st line of dragon teeth? Now they're at the 2nd line? --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:975653748] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>Didn't they just hit the 1st line of dragon teeth? Now they're at the 2nd line? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xenogears15 08/25/23 10:52:44 AM #406:	Starks posted... Didn't they just hit the 1st line of dragon teeth? Now they're at the 2nd line? I guess it really depends on what you consdier the 1st or 2nd line to be. Right now they're at the first real line of eathern and concrete fortifications on the Surovikin Line. The ones that stretch uninterrupted for many a kilometer. divot1338 posted... If they got routed that badly there probably wouldnt be many survivors to let that information get out All it would take is one taking enough time to type a few sentences into Telegram as they scrambled away from the frontline. --- This rant was brought to you by your local random thinker. I'm as Canadian as Wayne Gretzky crashing a snowmobile into a moose. - JIC X <cite>Xenogears15 posted [p:975654721] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>Starks posted... </cite><quote>Didn't they just hit the 1st line of dragon teeth? Now they're at the 2nd line?</quote>I guess it really depends on what you consdier the 1st or 2nd line to be. Right now they're at the first real line of eathern and concrete fortifications on the Surovikin Line. The ones that stretch uninterrupted for many a kilometer.<quote> divot1338 posted... If they got routed that badly there probably wouldnt be many survivors to let that information get out</quote>All it would take is one taking enough time to type a few sentences into Telegram as they scrambled away from the frontline. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thompson 08/25/23 10:54:33 AM #407:	Xenogears15 posted... eathern What is this word? --- Sigs are rather pointless, except if it's to showcase animation and images. <cite>Thompson posted [p:975654759] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>Xenogears15 posted... </cite><quote>eathern</quote>What is this word? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rikishi 08/25/23 10:55:02 AM #408:	This would have all been so much better if prigozhen actually went through with the coup against Russia. <cite>Rikishi posted [p:975654770] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>This would have all been so much better if prigozhen actually went through with the coup against Russia. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 08/25/23 10:55:37 AM #409:	Rikishi posted... This would have all been so much better if prigozhen actually went through with the coup against Russia. You really think Prigo would just let Ukraine be? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:975654779] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>Rikishi posted... </cite><quote>This would have all been so much better if prigozhen actually went through with the coup against Russia.</quote>You really think Prigo would just let Ukraine be?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xenogears15 08/25/23 10:58:22 AM #411:	Thompson posted... What is this word? Earthern is what I meant. --- This rant was brought to you by your local random thinker. I'm as Canadian as Wayne Gretzky crashing a snowmobile into a moose. - JIC X <cite>Xenogears15 posted [p:975654821] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>Thompson posted... </cite><quote>What is this word?</quote>Earthern is what I meant. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rikishi 08/25/23 10:59:45 AM #412:	Questionmarktarius posted... You really think Prigo would just let Ukraine be? Not sure how that would went either way. But it would have been great for the coup to sew chaos in Russia where Putin and his army were both fighting Ukraine, and the Wagner group in their own streets. Combined together <cite>Rikishi posted [p:975654845] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>You really think Prigo would just let Ukraine be?</quote>Not sure how that would went either way. But it would have been great for the coup to sew chaos in Russia where Putin and his army were both fighting Ukraine, and the Wagner group in their own streets. Combined together </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LaLeyenda 08/25/23 12:11:24 PM #413:	Here is the list of passengers that allegedly were killed on one of at least two of Prigozhins private planes: https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1694442299319562749 mustachedmystic posted... https://www.newsweek.com/russia-mine-defenses-could-backfire-south-ukraine-1821294 Apparemrly the Russians lay out their minefields haphazardly, and they dont even map them. I cannot believe we used to be scared of these clowns. Son_Of_Spam posted... Russia is still scary, but in more of a monkey with a machine gun kind of way. Yeah. Remember to how the invasion started with the Capital of Ukraine being bombed with the Russian Army believing that it would fall by 96 hours or 3 days? And how Zelenskyy and his allies kept themselves boxed in with a turtle strategy for weeks? https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/9/2/AAds4pAAEyGg.jpg --- The one and only and still the best. <cite>LaLeyenda posted [p:975656083] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>Here is the list of passengers that allegedly were killed on one of at least two of Prigozhins private planes:https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1694442299319562749mustachedmystic posted... </cite><quote>https://www.newsweek.com/russia-mine-defenses-could-backfire-south-ukraine-1821294Apparemrly the Russians lay out their minefields haphazardly, and they dont even map them. I cannot believe we used to be scared of these clowns.</quote>Son_Of_Spam posted... </cite><quote>Russia is still scary, but in more of a monkey with a machine gun kind of way.</quote>Yeah. Remember to how the invasion started with the Capital of Ukraine being bombed with the Russian Army believing that it would fall by 96 hours or 3 days? And how Zelenskyy and his allies kept themselves boxed in with a turtle strategy for weeks? https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/9/2/AAds4pAAEyGg.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Son_Of_Spam 08/25/23 12:25:48 PM #414:	Questionmarktarius posted... You really think Prigo would just let Ukraine be? The power vacuum created would have been a disaster for Russia's war effort. There's no way every Russian military commander would immediately fall in line. --- 20 years on Gamefaqs, and I still don't have a signature. <cite>Son_Of_Spam posted [p:975656363] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>You really think Prigo would just let Ukraine be?</quote>The power vacuum created would have been a disaster for Russia's war effort. There's no way every Russian military commander would immediately fall in line. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LaLeyenda 08/25/23 8:05:57 PM #415:	Finland will be giving aid to Ukraine. https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1695036544426406067 The leader of a Russian unit, Rusich along with a member has been detained in Finland. https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1694997495787532337 The Rusich Unit in response has announced that they will cease participating in the Ukraine Invasion due to the Russian government not assisting their leader. https://twitter.com/COUPSURE/status/1695170802293866859 Russia is deploying the T-55 tanks to defend Crimea. https://twitter.com/GlobalDefCorp/status/1695220440313336043 --- The one and only and still the best. <cite>LaLeyenda posted [p:975665042] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>Finland will be giving aid to Ukraine. https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1695036544426406067The leader of a Russian unit, Rusich along with a member has been detained in Finland. https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1694997495787532337The Rusich Unit in response has announced that they will cease participating in the Ukraine Invasion due to the Russian government not assisting their leader. https://twitter.com/COUPSURE/status/1695170802293866859Russia is deploying the T-55 tanks to defend Crimea. https://twitter.com/GlobalDefCorp/status/1695220440313336043 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 08/25/23 8:07:40 PM #416:	soon russia will be dragging out ww1 tanks --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:975665073] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>soon russia will be dragging out ww1 tanks </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheHorus 08/26/23 9:46:27 AM #417:	The Russian Volunteer Corps offered to team up with Wagner against Moscow after the disappearance of Prigozhin. https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1694811830114525283 --- Wait for it......wait, for it. Once two other posters get here we'll have ourselves an argument. Entitled vs Entitled round 40900001 COMING SOON! <cite>TheHorus posted [p:975673225] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>The Russian Volunteer Corps offered to team up with Wagner against Moscow after the disappearance of Prigozhin.https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1694811830114525283 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 08/26/23 12:59:34 PM #418:	TheHorus posted... The Russian Volunteer Corps offered to team up with Wagner against Moscow after the disappearance of Prigozhin. https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1694811830114525283 Honestly, seems like a really bad idea that will just easily let spies / double agents into their own ranks. "If you haven't committed a war crime, join us". Bro, this is Wagner we're talking about. If any of them haven't committed war crimes, it's only b/c they haven't had an opportunity to do so yet. <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:975675861] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>TheHorus posted... </cite><quote>The Russian Volunteer Corps offered to team up with Wagner against Moscow after the disappearance of Prigozhin.https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1694811830114525283</quote>Honestly, seems like a really bad idea that will just easily let spies / double agents into their own ranks."If you haven't committed a war crime, join us". Bro, this is Wagner we're talking about. If any of them haven't committed war crimes, it's only b/c they haven't had an opportunity to do so yet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 08/26/23 1:19:45 PM #419:	The Russian Volunteer Corps are neo-Nazis, so I can't say that surprises me at all --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:975676254] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>The Russian Volunteer Corps are neo-Nazis, so I can't say that surprises me at all </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir_Will 08/26/23 2:56:36 PM #420:	streamofthesky posted... Bro, this is Wagner we're talking about. If any of them haven't committed war crimes, it's only b/c they haven't had an opportunity to do so yet. True. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir_Will posted [p:975677746] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>streamofthesky posted... </cite><quote>Bro, this is Wagner we're talking about. If any of them haven't committed war crimes, it's only b/c they haven't had an opportunity to do so yet.</quote>True. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 08/26/23 11:26:31 PM #422:	Prigo dead, Russian lines collapsing, Ukraine has fighter jets now. Get fucked, Pootin <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:975685967] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>Prigo dead, Russian lines collapsing, Ukraine has fighter jets now.Get fucked, Pootin</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sahel 08/27/23 12:58:06 AM #423:	DarkChozoGhost posted... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G49ZuanpE8Q Captured leaders immediately sing Now another update on the situation in the Kherson region. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DPwmUNwlG0 The Russian Army attempted to rush them with greater numbers but over corrected by focusing on one direction. The Ukrainian Army had a tactical advantage with the geography of the land and flanked them from the sides. --- "Games don't get worse over time. Only your expectations change. A game from 1999 is going to play the same in 2017." - Vegeta1000 <cite>Sahel posted [p:975687300] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>DarkChozoGhost posted... </cite><quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G49ZuanpE8QCaptured leaders immediately sing</quote>Now another update on the situation in the Kherson region.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DPwmUNwlG0The Russian Army attempted to rush them with greater numbers but over corrected by focusing on one direction. The Ukrainian Army had a tactical advantage with the geography of the land and flanked them from the sides. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thompson 08/27/23 12:17:18 PM #424:	Big if true. https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1695777109438767133 --- Sigs are rather pointless, except if it's to showcase animation and images. <cite>Thompson posted [p:975693078] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>Big if true.https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1695777109438767133 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chev427BB 08/27/23 12:26:14 PM #425:	If that's true then they've completely shattered the Russian lines there and are really picking up momentum now. It makes sense though, those secondary and tertiary defenses (and all the little foxholes and stuff around the cities) won't be nearly as fortified (and mined) as the first line of defense was. The Russians were really counting on stopping the counteroffensive on or before the first line. --- Fight - You will win! Slava Ukraini! <cite>Chev427BB posted [p:975693258] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>If that's true then they've completely shattered the Russian lines there and are really picking up momentum now.It makes sense though, those secondary and tertiary defenses (and all the little foxholes and stuff around the cities) won't be nearly as fortified (and mined) as the first line of defense was. The Russians were really counting on stopping the counteroffensive on or before the first line. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xenogears15 08/27/23 1:10:14 PM #426:	Chev427BB posted... If that's true then they've completely shattered the Russian lines there and are really picking up momentum now. It makes sense though, those secondary and tertiary defenses (and all the little foxholes and stuff around the cities) won't be nearly as fortified (and mined) as the first line of defense was. The Russians were really counting on stopping the counteroffensive on or before the first line. I forget who, but I remember a commenter being amazed during the early parts of the offensive with how fiercely Russia was defending positions like Staromaiors'ke and the rest of the ledge with bodies, when really those should have been nothing more than meant as distractions to blunt the momentum of the advancing Ukrainians. The real lines were supposed to hold south of Staromlynivka, where the first real km-long fortifications were built. This made the commenter ask: 1) were the Russians short on reserves?, and; 2) were the fortifications built like shit beyond the minefields and towns between them? Were both true at the same time? In the short term they likely have enough reserves to prevent or blunt or prevent a large scale breakthrough (some forget there are a lot of Russian troops in Crimea), but in the medium-term and long-term it remains to be seen. If this news is true, then I think we see why the Russians were defending the minefields so fiercely: they knew what was behind them wasn't good enough to stop the Ukrainians. --- This rant was brought to you by your local random thinker. I'm as Canadian as Wayne Gretzky crashing a snowmobile into a moose. - JIC X <cite>Xenogears15 posted [p:975694062] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>Chev427BB posted... </cite><quote>If that's true then they've completely shattered the Russian lines there and are really picking up momentum now.It makes sense though, those secondary and tertiary defenses (and all the little foxholes and stuff around the cities) won't be nearly as fortified (and mined) as the first line of defense was. The Russians were really counting on stopping the counteroffensive on or before the first line.</quote>I forget who, but I remember a commenter being amazed during the early parts of the offensive with how fiercely Russia was defending positions like Staromaiors'ke and the rest of the ledge with bodies, when really those should have been nothing more than meant as distractions to blunt the momentum of the advancing Ukrainians. The real lines were supposed to hold south of Staromlynivka, where the first real km-long fortifications were built. This made the commenter ask: 1) were the Russians short on reserves?, and; 2) were the fortifications built like shit beyond the minefields and towns between them? Were both true at the same time?In the short term they likely have enough reserves to prevent or blunt or prevent a large scale breakthrough (some forget there are a lot of Russian troops in Crimea), but in the medium-term and long-term it remains to be seen. If this news is true, then I think we see why the Russians were defending the minefields so fiercely: they knew what was behind them wasn't good enough to stop the Ukrainians. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jefffan 08/27/23 1:16:57 PM #427:	Its good Ukraine finally I'd gaining some momentum. They have about 8 weeks of fighting left before the rains stop everything. Hopefully they can at least take Tokmak before then. --- Ernest Morgan: November 15, 1956-September 28, 2010: Best dad in the world. <cite>jefffan posted [p:975694196] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>Its good Ukraine finally I'd gaining some momentum. They have about 8 weeks of fighting left before the rains stop everything.Hopefully they can at least take Tokmak before then. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xenogears15 08/27/23 1:20:36 PM #428:	jefffan posted... Its good Ukraine finally I'd gaining some momentum. They have about 8 weeks of fighting left before the rains stop everything. Hopefully they can at least take Tokmak before then. All they have to do is reach Tokmak before the rains come, not even liberate it. They can siege it over the winter. That'll be enough to seriously threaten the land bridge until it can actually be severed. --- This rant was brought to you by your local random thinker. I'm as Canadian as Wayne Gretzky crashing a snowmobile into a moose. - JIC X <cite>Xenogears15 posted [p:975694279] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>jefffan posted... </cite><quote>Its good Ukraine finally I'd gaining some momentum. They have about 8 weeks of fighting left before the rains stop everything.Hopefully they can at least take Tokmak before then.</quote>All they have to do is reach Tokmak before the rains come, not even liberate it. They can siege it over the winter. That'll be enough to seriously threaten the land bridge until it can actually be severed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chev427BB 08/27/23 3:31:40 PM #429:	Xenogears15 posted... I forget who, but I remember a commenter being amazed during the early parts of the offensive with how fiercely Russia was defending positions like Staromaiors'ke and the rest of the ledge with bodies, when really those should have been nothing more than meant as distractions to blunt the momentum of the advancing Ukrainians. My theory on that part of the front is that the Russians brought their main defensive force forward in that area and dug in closer to the grey area to make it seem like the defenses in that area were stronger than they actually were. If the attacker is encountering what they believe are just outposts and outlying defensive elements ahead of the main defenses and are already fighting like they were around Staromaiors'ke that will usually lead the attacker to believe the main defenses will be even worse to overcome even though unbeknownst to them they may already be up against the main defense. Xenogears15 posted... The real lines were supposed to hold south of Staromlynivka, where the first real km-long fortifications were built. This made the commenter ask: 1) were the Russians short on reserves?, and; 2) were the fortifications built like shit beyond the minefields and towns between them? Were both true at the same time? I think the Russians know they don't have the bodies to fill all the defense lines so they're focusing all their defense front and center leaving very little in the rear to defend against breakouts. They were betting on the fact that one well-fortified defense line would repel any attacks by the Ukrainians and inflict catastrophic losses on the AFU to a point where the counteroffensive is called off without needing to fortify the other defense lines as much. It's a gamble because if the defense fails and there is a breakout there's not much preventing the attacker from moving virtually unimpeded (or at least with more ease), but if the defense is successful they can attrition the attacker to the point where a breakthrough isn't possible and they're forced to dig in to hold positions through the winter. Or I could just be talking out of my ass. These are just theories I have based on what I've been seeing with the counteroffensive and the weeks and months leading up to it. --- Fight - You will win! Slava Ukraini! <cite>Chev427BB posted [p:975696717] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>Xenogears15 posted... </cite><quote>I forget who, but I remember a commenter being amazed during the early parts of the offensive with how fiercely Russia was defending positions like Staromaiors'ke and the rest of the ledge with bodies, when really those should have been nothing more than meant as distractions to blunt the momentum of the advancing Ukrainians.</quote>My theory on that part of the front is that the Russians brought their main defensive force forward in that area and dug in closer to the grey area to make it seem like the defenses in that area were stronger than they actually were.If the attacker is encountering what they believe are just outposts and outlying defensive elements ahead of the main defenses and are already fighting like they were around Staromaiors'ke that will usually lead the attacker to believe the main defenses will be even worse to overcome even though unbeknownst to them they may already be up against the main defense.Xenogears15 posted... </cite><quote>The real lines were supposed to hold south of Staromlynivka, where the first real km-long fortifications were built. This made the commenter ask: 1) were the Russians short on reserves?, and; 2) were the fortifications built like shit beyond the minefields and towns between them? Were both true at the same time?</quote>I think the Russians know they don't have the bodies to fill all the defense lines so they're focusing all their defense front and center leaving very little in the rear to defend against breakouts. They were betting on the fact that one well-fortified defense line would repel any attacks by the Ukrainians and inflict catastrophic losses on the AFU to a point where the counteroffensive is called off without needing to fortify the other defense lines as much.It's a gamble because if the defense fails and there is a breakout there's not much preventing the attacker from moving virtually unimpeded (or at least with more ease), but if the defense is successful they can attrition the attacker to the point where a breakthrough isn't possible and they're forced to dig in to hold positions through the winter.Or I could just be talking out of my ass. These are just theories I have based on what I've been seeing with the counteroffensive and the weeks and months leading up to it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sahel 08/28/23 5:16:35 AM #430:	Wagner has reported that the Ukrainian forces have managed to break the second line of Russian defense of the Surovikin line in Tokmak direction. Also, they still really hate Sergei Kuzhugetovich Tuvinian degenerate Shoigu. https://twitter.com/Ukrainene/status/1695841760046444776 --- "Games don't get worse over time. Only your expectations change. A game from 1999 is going to play the same in 2017." - Vegeta1000 <cite>Sahel posted [p:975707631] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>Wagner has reported that the Ukrainian forces have managed to break the second line of Russian defense of the Surovikin line in Tokmak direction. Also, they still really hate Sergei Kuzhugetovich Tuvinian degenerate Shoigu.https://twitter.com/Ukrainene/status/1695841760046444776 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 08/28/23 11:04:53 AM #431:	is Wagner even still active in Ukraine? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:975710910] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>is Wagner even still active in Ukraine?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xenogears15 08/28/23 11:06:25 AM #432:	Questionmarktarius posted... is Wagner even still active in Ukraine? No. --- This rant was brought to you by your local random thinker. I'm as Canadian as Wayne Gretzky crashing a snowmobile into a moose. - JIC X <cite>Xenogears15 posted [p:975710927] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>is Wagner even still active in Ukraine?</quote>No. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kibouno 08/28/23 12:29:03 PM #433:	The Ukrainian Army has decided to use Thermal Technology to detect mines. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrAdwygApuE <cite>Kibouno posted [p:975712370] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>The Ukrainian Army has decided to use Thermal Technology to detect mines. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrAdwygApuE</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 08/28/23 12:30:50 PM #434:	That works? Are the mines giving off residual heat, or just react funky to infrared? Even for five minutes, the video is still cursed by youtube meandering. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:975712401] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>That works?Are the mines giving off residual heat, or just react funky to infrared?Even for five minutes, the video is still cursed by youtube meandering.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thompson 08/28/23 12:34:16 PM #435:	Questionmarktarius posted... That works? Are the mines giving off residual heat, or just react funky to infrared? Even for five minutes, the video is still cursed by youtube meandering. The mines absord heat during the daylight hours, but cool off slower than their surroundings after sunset. --- Sigs are rather pointless, except if it's to showcase animation and images. <cite>Thompson posted [p:975712460] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>That works?Are the mines giving off residual heat, or just react funky to infrared?Even for five minutes, the video is still cursed by youtube meandering.</quote>The mines absord heat during the daylight hours, but cool off slower than their surroundings after sunset. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 08/28/23 12:49:17 PM #436:	With regard to Russian defensive lines, it's probably worth pointing out that some analysts have highlighted how Russia's mine laying approach is a double-edged sword. Because they dump mines indiscriminately and don't keep accurate maps, it makes it extremely difficult to advance, but also extremely difficult to maneuver in defense. Basically, in an active desperation prior to the start of the Ukrainian offense Russia basically made it impossible for them to move forward from their defensive positions... But also in between any layer of defense that has mines in the middle. The trade-off is a much slower offensive than people were expecting out of Ukraine as they're forced to probe every inch of land they want to take because mines could be anywhere. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:975712699] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>With regard to Russian defensive lines, it's probably worth pointing out that some analysts have highlighted how Russia's mine laying approach is a double-edged sword. Because they dump mines indiscriminately and don't keep accurate maps, it makes it extremely difficult to advance, but also extremely difficult to maneuver in defense.Basically, in an active desperation prior to the start of the Ukrainian offense Russia basically made it impossible for them to move forward from their defensive positions... But also in between any layer of defense that has mines in the middle. The trade-off is a much slower offensive than people were expecting out of Ukraine as they're forced to probe every inch of land they want to take because mines could be anywhere. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
videospirit 08/28/23 6:31:36 PM #437:	Questionmarktarius posted... That works? Are the mines giving off residual heat, or just react funky to infrared? Even for five minutes, the video is still cursed by youtube meandering. It's a similar principle as water temperature is different from air temperature when you want to go to a beach so you need to check what temperature the water will be rather than just looking at a basic weather report. The mines absorb heat more easily than the ground does, so they show up clearly on infrared on hot days. --- Is there any other time in a modern democracy where large numbers of citizens complained that their government wasn't enough like a tyrannical dictatorship? <cite>videospirit posted [p:975718896] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>That works?Are the mines giving off residual heat, or just react funky to infrared?Even for five minutes, the video is still cursed by youtube meandering.</quote>It's a similar principle as water temperature is different from air temperature when you want to go to a beach so you need to check what temperature the water will be rather than just looking at a basic weather report. The mines absorb heat more easily than the ground does, so they show up clearly on infrared on hot days. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_hulk88 08/28/23 6:32:24 PM #438:	When is the war ending? <cite>Mr_hulk88 posted [p:975718907] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>When is the war ending?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
videospirit 08/28/23 6:35:41 PM #439:	s0nicfan posted... With regard to Russian defensive lines, it's probably worth pointing out that some analysts have highlighted how Russia's mine laying approach is a double-edged sword. Because they dump mines indiscriminately and don't keep accurate maps, it makes it extremely difficult to advance, but also extremely difficult to maneuver in defense. Basically, in an active desperation prior to the start of the Ukrainian offense Russia basically made it impossible for them to move forward from their defensive positions... But also in between any layer of defense that has mines in the middle. The trade-off is a much slower offensive than people were expecting out of Ukraine as they're forced to probe every inch of land they want to take because mines could be anywhere. Yeah it sounds like the mines are slowing Ukraine to a crawl and not much else is slowing them down other than walls of bodies. Has Russia had success anywhere since Wagner took Bakhmut? All we hear about lately is them losing battles bit by bit. --- Is there any other time in a modern democracy where large numbers of citizens complained that their government wasn't enough like a tyrannical dictatorship? <cite>videospirit posted [p:975718964] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite><quote>With regard to Russian defensive lines, it's probably worth pointing out that some analysts have highlighted how Russia's mine laying approach is a double-edged sword. Because they dump mines indiscriminately and don't keep accurate maps, it makes it extremely difficult to advance, but also extremely difficult to maneuver in defense.Basically, in an active desperation prior to the start of the Ukrainian offense Russia basically made it impossible for them to move forward from their defensive positions... But also in between any layer of defense that has mines in the middle. The trade-off is a much slower offensive than people were expecting out of Ukraine as they're forced to probe every inch of land they want to take because mines could be anywhere.</quote>Yeah it sounds like the mines are slowing Ukraine to a crawl and not much else is slowing them down other than walls of bodies.Has Russia had success anywhere since Wagner took Bakhmut? All we hear about lately is them losing battles bit by bit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Humble_Novice 08/28/23 8:35:30 PM #440:	https://twitter.com/NatalkaKyiv/status/1695812089309258208 --- Miss the old GameFAQs politics board? Then come here to discuss it with us: https://www.reddit.com/r/gamefaqs261/ <cite>Humble_Novice posted [p:975721233] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/NatalkaKyiv/status/1695812089309258208 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 08/28/23 8:37:39 PM #441:	Humble_Novice posted... https://twitter.com/NatalkaKyiv/status/1695812089309258208 well that's certainly one way to pretend war crimes never happened --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:975721281] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>Humble_Novice posted... </cite><quote>https://twitter.com/NatalkaKyiv/status/1695812089309258208</quote>well that's certainly one way to pretend war crimes never happened </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 08/28/23 9:03:36 PM #442:	Humble_Novice posted... https://twitter.com/NatalkaKyiv/status/1695812089309258208 They paved Prigo's guys and put up a parking lot <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:975721757] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>Humble_Novice posted... </cite><quote>https://twitter.com/NatalkaKyiv/status/1695812089309258208</quote>They paved Prigo's guys and put up a parking lot</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LaLeyenda 08/28/23 9:46:39 PM #443:	The Russians will be using horses. https://defence-blog.com/russia-sends-troops-into-battle-on-the-backs-of-horses/?amp People love horses. Ukrainians does too. https://www.rferl.org/amp/ukrainian-soldiers-rescue-abandoned-horses/32380578.html --- The one and only and still the best. <cite>LaLeyenda posted [p:975722621] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>The Russians will be using horses. https://defence-blog.com/russia-sends-troops-into-battle-on-the-backs-of-horses/?ampPeople love horses. Ukrainians does too. https://www.rferl.org/amp/ukrainian-soldiers-rescue-abandoned-horses/32380578.html </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 08/28/23 9:54:27 PM #444:	You don't even need a tractor to pull an abandoned horse. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:975722783] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>You don't even need a tractor to pull an abandoned horse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YellowSUV 08/28/23 10:01:45 PM #445:	Humble_Novice posted... https://twitter.com/NatalkaKyiv/status/1695812089309258208 Russia to Germany : You must maintain the graves of our WWII soldiers. Russia to the people who did most of their dirty work in the Russia-Ukraine War : You don't exist. --- We all live in a Yellow SUV! a Yellow SUV! <cite>YellowSUV posted [p:975722913] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>Humble_Novice posted... </cite><quote>https://twitter.com/NatalkaKyiv/status/1695812089309258208</quote>Russia to Germany : You must maintain the graves of our WWII soldiers.Russia to the people who did most of their dirty work in the Russia-Ukraine War : You don't exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 08/28/23 10:02:57 PM #446:	YellowSUV posted... Russia to Germany : You must maintain the graves of our WWII soldiers. To be fair, France is maintaining pretty much everyone's dead soldiers. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:975722941] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>YellowSUV posted... </cite><quote>Russia to Germany : You must maintain the graves of our WWII soldiers.</quote>To be fair, France is maintaining pretty much everyone's dead soldiers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_hulk88 08/28/23 10:26:04 PM #447:	Mr_hulk88 posted... When is the war ending? <cite>Mr_hulk88 posted [p:975723384] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>Mr_hulk88 posted... </cite><quote>When is the war ending?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr_hulk88 08/28/23 10:49:27 PM #449:	I'm just asking when do you realistically think it will end. <cite>Mr_hulk88 posted [p:975723785] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>I'm just asking when do you realistically think it will end. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 08/28/23 10:50:32 PM #450:	Ukraine is getting fighter jets now. Actual goddamn air support is what they've needed this whole time. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:975723799] in Ukraine Wa... [t:80514563]...</cite> <quote>Ukraine is getting fighter jets now. Actual goddamn air support is what they've needed this whole time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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