Current Events > "It's no longer Democrat VERSES Republican"

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creativerealms posted...

The keystone pipeline would have slightly risen gas prices in parts of the country because it was going to export oil to Canada.

*Crude* it was exporting *crude* we do not export usable refined oil to anyone.

Heineken14 posted...

Princess Diana dying shouldn't have turned a lot of right wingers into disgusting swamp creatures. Or you can keep being vague because you know what you're talking about is disgusting. Either or I suppose.

What...what does Princess Diana dying have to do with Republicans reverting Democrat policies?

Heineken14 posted...

No, it's not sealioning at all because I'm not pretending to be civil to get you to expand upon your dumb bullshit lies. I'm openly hostile to the fact you are spreading right wing propaganda.

I know you won't accept it, but you have my sincere apology. I should never have accused you of even pretending to be gracious or civil. A different term should have been applied, or no term at all (related: is there a word for a hostile sealion?).

Won't happen again, promise.

KajeI posted...

Please tell me you're referring to Keystone.

If you want.

DarkChozoGhost posted...

It's very statistically unlikely, and you've otherwise been incredibly dishonest. It would be foolish to believe you. Especially when you post blatant lies like this in the same post:

Well I'm certainly not about to provide anything resembling evidence for my finances, so fair enough.

DarkChozoGhost posted...

I know you're not actually stupid enough to believe we had "energy independence" or that the pipeline had anything to do with gas prices lowering or raising. You'll lie and pretend you believe that, even though you're perfectly aware that prices were low under Trump solely due to him covering up Muhammed Bin Salman's kidnapping, torture, and murder of an American citizen. You're also perfectly aware that Biden has authorized more oil drilling than any recent president. But you're going to continue to lie, and pretend that the pipeline owned by foreign companies was the cause of our gas prices going down, and that Biden blocking that environmental and imminent domain disaster was what caused prices to go up. You'll spread that lie because people less evil, but more stupid than you will believe it.

That's certainly...interesting? Apparently I already knew all this, but I suppose it's even more interesting to see it all again in long sarcasm form. Thanks for the reminder.

Biden gets along with the guy too apparently.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/biden-admin-says-saudi-prince-has-immunity-khashoggi-killing-lawsuit-court-2022-11-18/

Seems like it's just the Presidential thing to do.

Heineken14 posted...

Yeah, I had posted a link debunking that claim of energy independence too. Lol

Your link indicates the claim of energy independence is true, but attributes it to very different causes. Causes that remove all credit from Trump, and certainly don't attribute it to anything involving a Saudi Prince. But I suppose in a roundabout way you're both in agreement, one way or another.

It's a sad thing that I genuinely can't tell who does a worse job of defending their positions between Republican voters and BoTW/ToTK durability defenders.

KajeI posted...

BoTW/ToTK durability defenders.

Truly awful people.

Tyranthraxus posted...

*Crude* it was exporting *crude* we do not export usable refined oil to anyone.

Regardless people were acting like it would import oil and reduce gas prices.

iCurious posted...

Truly awful people.

And yet, you're a Trump supporter

iCurious posted...

That's certainly...interesting? Apparently I already knew all this, but I suppose it's even more interesting to see it all again in long sarcasm form. Thanks for the reminder.

Biden gets along with the guy too apparently.

Seems like it's just the Presidential thing to do.

Of course Biden bends to the Saudi's too much. All presidents do, but some are worse than others. But Biden's state department following questionable, but long standing rules is significantly different than the Trump administration actively defying bipartisan actions from congress that actually could punish MBS.

Please stop pretending that you actually believe Trump's domestic policy lowered gas prices, and that Biden's domestic policy raised them. You know that's not true, we know that you know that isn't true, stop feigning ignorance.

"Biden bends to the Saudis and China", says supporters of man who got along with and/or personally complimented ever despot on the planet.

Doing business with China and the Saudis seems to just be "American politics" as much as it sucks.

iCurious posted...

I didn't even come back here to post when I came to see the newly generated salt mines from recent SCOTUS rulings. Just wanted to look, and you people are typically quite boring when responding to bad news, so I don't check often.

You know, for somebody who keeps posting in multiple topics about how much you don't want to post on GameFAQs, you sure post on GameFAQs an awful lot.

Heineken14 posted...

Hah, I KNEW you crying Bout mods would be the cop out.

100% guarantee its bigoted nonsense about minorities

BunkerBoy posted...

And yet, you're a Trump supporter

It's a strange world we live in, Bunks.

DarkChozoGhost posted...

Of course Biden bends to the Saudi's too much. All presidents do, but some are worse than others. But Biden's state department following questionable, but long standing rules is significantly different than the Trump administration actively defying bipartisan actions from congress that actually could punish MBS.

Please stop pretending that you actually believe Trump's domestic policy lowered gas prices, and that Biden's domestic policy raised them. You know that's not true, we know that you know that isn't true, stop feigning ignorance.

What bipartisan actions? There's nothing Biden & the Bipartisan could do now instead? Other than a friendly fist bump I mean? I really don't know, maybe he has.

That aside I do believe Trump helped, and Biden...devastated? Seems like a good word for it. I look at gas prices then and after 2020 as indicators. It's honestly kind of bizarre how easily you dismiss how rapidly things went to shit once Biden took office. Haven't met many people in recent years that think he's doing a good job, but I also haven't been on this site. Probably related.

Anyway it's time to stop.

TMOG posted...

You know, for somebody who keeps posting in multiple topics about how much you don't want to post on GameFAQs, you sure post on GameFAQs an awful lot.

In that bit you quoted I said I wasn't going to post because I said I wouldn't, years ago. If I didn't want to post at all I wouldn't have, but you are right in that I certainly don't like this place enough to stick around as a regular. At best I might hop to one of my older accounts (yes, my actual alts - go crazy) and go visit a board that isn't owned by the 261 Clique.

Speaking of, there's also this gang argument I've been dealing with where I'm responding to the echo chamber, so that sort of thing does usually cause me to post for a bit. Though I can't recall anyone ever indicating that 42 posts is particularly high...I'm seeing counts in the hundreds, but I suppose standards for entry into the, "posts an awful lot" club may have gone down to boost membership in response to the ever declining number of visitors to this site.

If you call off the gang I'll be out of here sooner, or at the least I'll be out of the political threads, and maybe I'll just do that anyway. I really should get back to cert studying after all - or playing a game and putting it off.

CSCA33 posted...

100% guarantee its bigoted nonsense about minorities

lol. Okay.

iCurious posted...

Seems like a good word for it

For your coping. Sure.

Kind of have to prove your lazy shit if you want to be taken seriously.

Correlation does not necessarily mean causation. Especially when there is legit prove of Rs going out of their way to not fix the cost of gas issue. Their legislation voting.

You're a clown. "Luckily" for you big money helps prop up your shitty side/take, and misleads people.

iCurious posted...

That aside I do believe Trump helped, and Biden...devastated? Seems like a good word for it. I look at gas prices then and after 2020 as indicators. It's honestly kind of bizarre how easily you dismiss how rapidly things went to shit once Biden took office. Haven't met many people in recent years that think he's doing a good job, but I also haven't been on this site. Probably related.

It's amazing anyone could possibly think everyone's forgotten what was happening in 2020.

myusernameislame posted...

It's amazing anyone could possibly think everyone's forgotten what was happening in 2020.

He's a Trumper, he probably thinks COVID was a Democrat hoax to begin with.

myusernameislame posted...

It's amazing anyone could possibly think everyone's forgotten what was happening in 2020.

Yeah, typical right wing nonsense that never has any specifics of anything, just their fee fees.

iCurious posted...

That aside I do believe Trump helped, and Biden...devastated?

No, you don't. Stop lying and pretending you believe the ridiculous narrative you're pushing.

More like "those defending the corporations" vs the party shipping illegals to troll other states.

xlr_big-coop posted...

More like "those defending the corporations" vs the party shipping illegals to troll other states.

Those are both republicans.

TMOG posted...

She's right, but not for the reason she thinks she's right.

Bingo, ho ho ho ho. (Can't remember where I got that from)

creativerealms posted...

The keystone pipeline would have slightly risen gas prices in parts of the country because it was going to export oil to Canada.

It was going to be imported from Canada.

"The ebil democrats want to take away your freedumbz because reasons! Now get into the prison camp, you filthy untermenchen."

iCurious, do you support trumps 2024 platform with the explicitly stated goals of committing genocide against trans people?

CSCA33 posted...

iCurious, do you support trumps 2024 platform with the explicitly stated goals of committing genocide against trans people?

Are you a right winger?

Throwing iCurious a bone like that... not all types of "charity" are cool ya'know?

Tora_Sami posted...

Bingo, ho ho ho ho. (Can't remember where I got that from)

https://youtu.be/_4EKiLbdF0s

Carljank posted...

It was going to be imported from Canada.

Only exported to Canada. There was going to be no importing. I did look up what it was doing.

One party wants to control what women do with their bodies, what subjects are taught in schools, what books are allowed to be read, which people are allowed to vote, what news is allowed to be shared, etc.

So technically the sign is right.

Also, anyone saying they're voting Republican squarely because it was good for their finances, gas prices, and stock portfolio is not to be taken seriously. The republican party is passing policies that are stripping away rights from minorities, are getting our people actively killed, their courts just approved open discrimination/segregation on "religious grounds," and their policies/rhetoric against trans people are currently ranking at step 8 (of 10) in the globally recognized genocide progression scale. They are openly playing host to actual swastika-flying neo nazis, to the point that many of their congresspeople barely even hide their direct communication with those groups; and yet somehow even these "moderate, purely economic conservatives" are completely unable to take a step back and see the LITERAL RED FLAGS proudly waving in their faces. Your bank statements can kindly fuck off.

DuranOfForcena posted...

the establishment Democrat party in the US is just as pro-corpo as the Republican party is

True, but they aren't also shipping off illegal immigrants to be assholes like the republicans are.

DarkBuster22904 posted...

One party wants to control what women do with their bodies, what subjects are taught in schools, what books are allowed to be read, which people are allowed to vote, what news is allowed to be shared, etc.

So technically the sign is right.

Also, anyone saying they're voting Republican squarely because it was good for their finances, gas prices, and stock portfolio is not to be taken seriously. The republican party is passing policies that are stripping away rights from minorities, are getting our people actively killed, their courts just approved open discrimination/segregation on "religious grounds," and their policies/rhetoric against trans people are currently ranking at step 8 (of 10) in the globally recognized genocide progression scale. They are openly playing host to actual swastika-flying neo nazis, to the point that many of their congresspeople barely even hide their direct communication with those groups; and yet somehow even these "moderate, purely economic conservatives" are completely unable to take a step back and see the LITERAL RED FLAGS proudly waving in their faces. Your bank statements can kindly fuck off.

I dont get where the idea they are good with finances comes from. For the past few decades, Every. Single. Time. a republican becomes president, our economy goes down the drain.

LightHawKnight posted...

I dont get where the idea they are good with finances comes from. For the past few decades, Every. Single. Time. a republican becomes president, our economy goes down the drain.

It's the power of misinformation and propaganda.

It's the only reason R's get support in general. Seeing as only the elite benefit. And statistically speaking, that's next to no one.

The powers that be are so fucking lucky that with such a weapon they can easily shape what people perceive as reality.

LightHawKnight posted...

I dont get where the idea they are good with finances comes from. For the past few decades, Every. Single. Time. a republican becomes president, our economy goes down the drain.

Because of the relative slowness of our economic policies in general.

The effects of D policies really start being felt under an R president, who promptly sets about tearing it down, so things start feeling shitty once the D president takes office.

This strategy would get a lot more apparent if we could stop ping-ponging between parties every time the seat changes butts.

Ironic really

DarkBuster22904 posted...

Because of the relative slowness of our economic policies in general.

The effects of D policies really start being felt under an R president, who promptly sets about tearing it down, so things start feeling shitty once the D president takes office.

This strategy would get a lot more apparent if we could stop ping-ponging between parties every time the seat changes butts.

It's not even that. By all metrics, Obama's terms were massively successful, it's just the GOP, and by extension the media, constantly said it wasn't, and therefore.... people said it wasn't. There's a reason that on November 9th, Donnie was already taking credit for how amazing the economy was.

DarkBuster22904 posted...

Because of the relative slowness of our economic policies in general.

The effects of D policies really start being felt under an R president, who promptly sets about tearing it down, so things start feeling shitty once the D president takes office.

This strategy would get a lot more apparent if we could stop ping-ponging between parties every time the seat changes butts.

To expand on this: the construction of our institutions means that the impact of elections mostly goes unfelt. The majority votes for Democrats in 2018 - But Republicans still control the Senate (which mostly was not up for election) and presidency. The majority votes for Democrats in 2020 - but the filibuster means that policy can only squeak through impossibly circumscribed processes. And if you do manage to pass policy, you might see it tossed aside by a court whose conservative majority includes a member appointed in 1991, and five more appointed by presidents who had lost the popular vote.

In a system such as this, there is virtually no way for people to trace policy outcomes back to democratic inputs. Cause and effect are as distant as the mouth of a river is from the source of its tributaries.

Say what you will about the UK, by comparison, but there is very little confusion about who is responsible for its current governance and why.

Sheiky-Baby posted...

To quote Kevin Von Erich, "BETWEEN DECENCY AND FILTH!"

There's a joke about the Von Erichs/Freebirds and the political parties somewhere.

Great example of why 261 was nixed.

BGleason22 posted...

Great example of why 261 was nixed.

Great example of what to post when you don't like what is being said, but can't actually counter anything.

BGleason22 posted...

Great example of why 261 was nixed.

The reason it was nixed was because the fandom folk thought it split apart "the community"(????)
lol. lmao.

BGleason22 posted...

Great example of why 261 was nixed.

Reminder that this guy is a MAGA

verse/chorus/verse

BGleason22 posted...

Great example of why 261 was nixed.

Hope CE isnt next because of it

DarkBuster22904 posted...

Also, anyone saying they're voting Republican squarely because it was good for their finances, gas prices, and stock portfolio is not to be taken seriously.

They're also mostly lying.

DarkChozoGhost posted...

They're also mostly lying.

Probably not lying, just stupid

Kloe_Rinz posted...

Probably not lying, just stupid

Often both

creativerealms posted...

Only exported to Canada. There was going to be no importing. I did look up what it was doing.

You are absolutely wrong.

BGleason22 posted...

Great example of why 261 was nixed.

Yep. Democrats posting facts while republicans coming in and posting obvious bullshit lies and then crying when people call them out on them.

Good shout.