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GATTJT posted...

As expected of someone like you

ok

BeantownHero posted...

Is it "truly" middle earth if everyone isnt a white guy or helpless white woman?

Well in regards to white women, one of them did beat up a witch king and another one drove back some necromancer from his lair.

And ME did have a South if I recall correctly.
I don't recall any widespread intermingling but Sauron did manage to cross orcs and goblinmen to the point where some could pass off as white people.

Vicious_Dios posted...

ok

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/6/0/AAYBCtAAEnTY.png

EDIT: I swear I had that as a gif lol

GATTJT posted...

EDIT: I swear I had that as a gif lol

If you try to attach a gif GameFAQs breaks it. You have to use a link like imgur

GATTJT posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/6/0/AAYBCtAAEnTY.png

EDIT: I swear I had that as a gif lol

L

Doe posted...

If you try to attach a gif GameFAQs breaks it. You have to use a link like imgur

Good grief

Vicious_Dios posted...

ok

https://i.imgur.com/xITh30h.gif

There, hopefully that isn't borked lol

Don't know Eric July, but Critical Drinker is a basic bitch who - at his most harmless - mistakes overconfidence in preconceived notions for thoughtful analysis.

more like Critical Stinker...

as if we need another neckbeard dipshit crying about how everything is "woke" or whatever.

the0rebirth posted...

And all of these changes serve a meaningful purpose within the actual story. It's not just Hollywood doing surface-level checkbox-scratching.

Black Noir being black serves literally no purpose in the story. A-Train could easily be white without his role changing. And they could also not change anything about Stormfront by making her male in the show, except then it falls into the "LGBT agenda" instead of just the "woke agenda"

No wonder you thought that TCD video wasn't junk, you have the same "this isn't bad, its only bad when its something I DON'T LIKE" opinion.
loafy013 posted...

So where do you find these accurate movies? I've tried, but the candles provide too much light to be accurate. Teeth are too white and straight, and actually all there. Women have shaved bodies. There is a disturbing lack of scabs and boils. Horse and other animal s*** isn't littering the roadways. I mean, if accuracy is your goal, there is stuff way more noticeable than skin color.

But these people don't care about that accuracy...

Proto_Spark posted...

A-Train could easily be white without his role changing

I agree with you on the other stuff, but some of A-Train's arc would absolutely not have worked if he was white.

MagnusX posted...

sealion

What the fuck is this...sealioning shit you people keep mentioning...

...and urbandictionary has the answer. Go figure there was a word for this specific brand of troll. I'd started to wonder if my tendency to tell people to fuck off early into an argument was mildly unreasonable, and now I know people are doing this professionally on the side with an aquatic mammal for a job title. Figures.

The more you know. Now I can stop just noticing it early to actively expecting it to begin with.

GATTJT posted...

I agree with you on the other stuff, but some of A-Train's arc would absolutely not have worked if he was white.

Well, up to the most recent season, A-Train could've probably just been white. It wasn't until season 3 and theres a focus on A-Train directly trying to be a bigger part of his community.

Proto_Spark posted...

Black Noir being black serves literally no purpose in the story.

The whole reason he originally wore a mask is because Vought didn't want to risk his blackness causing controversy. He wanted to be the Eddy Murphy of superheroes, only to have that dream ripped away from the explosion that disfigured him.

A-Train could easily be white without his role changing.

You're kidding, right? The guy was torn between confronting racism in a meaningful way (like his much more morally disciplined brother wanted), and remaining a spotlight-loving fraud who plays it safe. A major irony and plot point is that the only reason he's even still alive is due to receiving a heart transplant from the racist supe who crippled his brother.

And they could also not change anything about Stormfront by making her male in the show, except then it falls into the "LGBT agenda" instead of just the "woke agenda"

Stormfront being a woman served to make the dynamic she had with Homelander a romantic one. Also, her being portrayed as this openly feminist character who isn't afraid to talk shit about Vought when she thinks it's necessary (thus making her likeable), only to immediately flip the script and become as scary as Homelander is a twist that works more effectively with the character being female.

While we're on the subject, Madelyn Stillwell was also changed to a woman to provide the dysfunctional maternal relationship she had with Homelander, and highlight his mommy issues with the creepy breast milk shit.

No wonder you thought that TCD video wasn't junk, you have the same "this isn't bad, its only bad when its something I DON'T LIKE" opinion.

Not at all. I mean hell, you couldn't even identify the meaningful changes that come with half these swaps. lol

loafy013 posted...

So where do you find these accurate movies? I've tried, but the candles provide too much light to be accurate. Teeth are too white and straight, and actually all there. Women have shaved bodies. There is a disturbing lack of scabs and boils. Horse and other animal shit isn't littering the roadways. I mean, if accuracy is your goal, there is stuff way more noticeable than skin color.

What does any of this have to do with population accuracy?

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Are they really though? I can't comment on live-action Mulan, but I do know Rey is a primary target of his and I'd argue the first two traits are untrue and the last trait is highly subjective and vague.

Rey personally isn't combative but it's a common personality trait of "strong female lead". Rey is pretty flawless. She doesn't need Luke's help to train in the force, and bests him. She also some how knows better than Han Solo how to fix his own millennium falcon. "I bypassed the compressor". No one dislikes any part of her personality (contained within the movie), and there's not really anything else for her to overcome or improve at. She kind of just "does".

I guess that's fair that the last trait is subjective but I personally think she has the personality of a wet paper bag. Also my logical brain says if she was so interesting then I doubt there would be as much division on the likability of the sequel trilogy, but I digress.

the0rebirth posted...

What does any of this have to do with population accuracy?

It was in context with you saying this.

-diversity in period pieces where none is appropriate (again, checks off the representation box at the expense of accuracy, which feels pandery)

You seemed triggered by an inaccurate representation of race in period pieces. Yet, for some reason, unbothered by all the other inaccuracies that would also be there in the same time period.

deoxxys posted...

She also some how knows better than Han Solo how to fix his own millennium falcon. "I bypassed the compressor".

People always whine about this but Han hadn't seen the ship in like a decade. It's perfectly reasonable he would no longer be 100% on all the faults and Rey is a scavenger who is very familiar with tech.

the0rebirth posted...

The whole reason he originally wore a mask is because Vought didn't want to risk his blackness causing controversy. He wanted to be the Eddy Murphy of superheroes, only to have that dream ripped away from the explosion that disfigured him.

And that was already making shit up because they race-swapped him to be black. That's working backwards from exactly that kind of check box you seem to hate. Given you actually see Black Noir for like, 10 seconds in the entire show outside of his costume, and the show is making shit up anyways, they could have made literally anything up. But then they had to get political.

the0rebirth posted...

You're kidding, right? The guy was torn between confronting racism in a meaningful way (like his much more morally disciplined brother wanted), and remaining a spotlight-loving fraud who plays it safe. A major irony and plot point is that the only reason he's even still alive is due to receiving a heart transplant from the racist supe who crippled his brother.

And again, this is working backwards from the forced race swap you seem to hate, especially because nothing about A-Train confronting racism again came up until season 3, and is also completely made up by the writers to try and back up their race swap.

the0rebirth posted...

Stormfront being a woman served to make the dynamic she had with Homelander a romantic one. Also, her being portrayed as this openly feminist character who isn't afraid to talk s*** about Vought when she thinks it's necessary (thus making her likeable), only to immediately flip the script and become as scary as Homelander is a twist that works more effectively with the character being female.

While we're on the subject, Madelyn Stillwell was also changed to a woman to provide the dysfunctional maternal relationship she had with Homelander, and highlight his mommy issues with the creepy breast milk s***.

Stormfront could have also had the same dynamic with Homelander as a male.

Also, it's baffling that you thought Stormfront was even pretending to be some kind of feminist character. The show immediately shuts that down hard. It's not a twist, they tell you it from the beginning. And that's ignoring the fact that her name is stormfront.

the0rebirth posted...

Not at all. I mean hell, you couldn't even identify the meaningful changes that come with half these swaps. lol

No, these are things you would hate in a "woke" medium, but because you like it, they're fine.

A-Train easily could have not race swapped and had a slightly different arc in season 3, Black Noir could have stayed white and they'd have changed one line of dialogue.

In fact...
the0rebirth posted...

CW's Batwoman. So much disrespect to Batman just to make Batwoman look better. The tone-deaf marketing said it all..."The suit will be perfect, once it fits a woman." Cringe. There's an episode where (if memory serves correct) a woman tries to blow up a train full of people, and by the end of it, Batwoman lets her escape justice because she found out the girl was struggling with being gay and apparently just needed someone to understand her plight. What a terrible reason to make a superhero let a terrorist off the hook. The show CONSTANTLY trips over itself trying to clumsily inject social/political commentary. To me, that's a great example of being "woke".

This sounds pretty similar. Why is it okay to completely re-write A-Train in order to shove racial politics in there, but not okay for them to do it with Batwoman and shove LGBT politics in there? Batman isn't even in the show, it's not really directly disrespecting him.

Literally one of the main points about The Boys is how heavy-handed their social commentary is. So what's the difference beyond you like one and not the other?

Murphiroth posted...

People always whine about this but Han hadn't seen the ship in like a decade. It's perfectly reasonable he would no longer be 100% on all the faults and Rey is a scavenger who is very familiar with tech.

Isn't there also a line in there where they mention someone since Han lost the ship added the compressor? Like that's why they were having trouble fixing the Falcon. Idk I haven't seen TFA in years tho.

Proto_Spark posted...

Isn't there also a line in there where they mention someone since Han lost the ship added the compressor? Like that's why they were having trouble fixing the Falcon. Idk I haven't seen TFA in years tho.

Yeah IIRC Unkar Plutt was making occasional modifications to the ship and may have even had Rey making said modifications. It's vaguely implied at least she's worked on the ship for him before.

No!
She's a girl and she's good and something, quit shoving your beliefs down my throat!

What do I think of who and who?

the0rebirth posted...

I think they both rock.

I know where you were on Jan 6th

I like Critical Drinker. But I will admit, there were at least a few occasions when he'd call any random woman "STRONG DIVERSE FEMALE!!!", when being female was less relevant than he'd make it out to be.

His criticisms against Mary Sues is kind of hit or miss. He's either right about the really obvious ones, or wrong because he's trying too hard.

loafy013 posted...

It was in context with you saying this.

You seemed triggered by an inaccurate representation of race in period pieces. Yet, for some reason, unbothered by all the other inaccuracies that would also be there in the same time period.

This is such a dumb argument lol just because I like realism in one area doesn't mean I need to apply it to insane degrees across the board. That's like saying "if you want the story to be so believable, why aren't you clamoring for hearing characters fart at random times or watching them take poops & pisses?"

Proto_Spark posted...

And that was already making shit up because they race-swapped him to be black. That's working backwards from exactly that kind of check box you seem to hate.

That's assuming these things weren't already planned. Stillwell being a creepily maternal figure to Homelander, Stormfront being Homelander's love interest, etc. don't just feel like the writers checking off a box.

Stormfront could have also had the same dynamic with Homelander as a male.

Homelander is straight, and knowing his character, he'd want to be seen as such even if he wasn't. Making him enter a gay relationship would complicate the story more than necessary, since Vought is all about optics and the show keeps it pretty real about how minorities/homosexuality/religion/etc. can sometimes be perceived by society at large. Hell, there's a moment where Homelander straight-up refuses to accept a Muslim superhero into The Seven because of that very reason.

Also, it's baffling that you thought Stormfront was even pretending to be some kind of feminist character. The show immediately shuts that down hard. It's not a twist, they tell you it from the beginning. And that's ignoring the fact that her name is stormfront.

I don't remember how quickly it was revealed, but the fact remains that her initially acting like this progressive chick who calls out injustice only to turn out arguably worse than Homelander, and the prospect of them being a literal power couple of unstoppable psychopaths who would eventually have kids and continue their bloodline (terrifying), serves to actually make the story more interesting.

No, these are things you would hate in a "woke" medium, but because you like it, they're fine.

A woke show prioritizes popular talking points over good storytelling. The Boys doesn't do that. The political/social commentary is in the show's DNA as a satire, but not at the expense of coherent writing. Many of the changes the TV show made resulted in things being more interesting/intriguing with the different dynamics at play.

This sounds pretty similar. Why is it okay to completely re-write A-Train in order to shove racial politics in there, but not okay for them to do it with Batwoman and shove LGBT politics in there? Batman isn't even in the show, it's not really directly disrespecting him.

Because one handles politics in a way that enhances the viewing experience, and the other doesn't. Batwoman could have been an interesting show with thought-provoking political subtext, but it wasn't because the writing was shit and the messages were clumsily implemented. Also--and this is just personal opinion--but I think it's strange and off-putting to take more famous, firmly established characters and change their race/sex/etc. instead of just making a new idea. And actually, Batwoman shits on the character of Batman several times throughout the series for the sake of making Batwoman look better. It's just hack writing.

Literally one of the main points about The Boys is how heavy-handed their social commentary is.

Because it's satire.

the0rebirth posted...

This is such a dumb argument lol just because I like realism in one area doesn't mean I need to apply it to insane degrees across the board. That's like saying "if you want the story to be so believable, why aren't you clamoring for hearing characters fart at random times or watching them take poops & pisses?"

You could just admit you have a problem when a non-white, non-male character is the hero of the story. Would take a whole lot less effort on your part to do so. I mean, I'm not the one clamoring for realism in movies anyway.

It's funny how those who complain about entertainment which has an 'agenda', are invariably pushing one of their own.

'I can't be a misogynist, I like that woman off of Alien' has officially passed its sell-by date, so no-one's buying it any more.

loafy013 posted...

You could just admit you have a problem when a non-white, non-male character is the hero of the story. Would take a whole lot less effort on your part to do so. I mean, I'm not the one clamoring for realism in movies anyway.

Well, considering Im black, this would be a very weird position for me to take. But I understand that this is just the nuance-devoid NPC response to give when youre too lazy to intellectually engage.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/6/6/AAPasaAAEnWm.jpg

lol

the0rebirth posted...

Well, considering Im black, this would be a very weird position for me to take. But I understand that this is just the nuance-devoid NPC response to give when youre too lazy to intellectually engage.

Thanks for confirming what we all suspected. "As a black man" means you are white. Calling people NPC's shows your lean right. The rest of your "girls bad" posts round out the trifecta of inceldom.

loafy013 posted...

Thanks for confirming what we all suspected. "As a black man" means you are white. Calling people NPC's shows your lean right. The rest of your "girls bad" posts round out the trifecta of inceldom.

This is the saddest combination of racism and terminally online thinking.

How the fuck has this guy not been suspended yet

UnholyMudcrab posted...

How the fuck has this guy not been suspended yet

What on Earth would I be suspended for? Saying things you dont like? Jesus some of yall are fragile lol

the0rebirth posted...

This is the saddest combination of racism and terminally online thinking.

I notice you didn't say I was wrong though.

loafy013 posted...

I notice you didn't say I was wrong though.

You are wrong.

the0rebirth posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/6/6/AAPasaAAEnWm.jpg

lol

Ha ha. That was very nice.

Even delicious irony won't get me to turn off my adblocker, though.

the0rebirth posted...

You are wrong.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/8/5/AAAFvIAAEnW5.jpg
something, something, NPC's can't win an argument when they respond with an image.

the0rebirth posted...

Well, considering Im black, this would be a very weird position for me to take. But I understand that this is just the nuance-devoid NPC response to give when youre too lazy to intellectually engage.

Lotta projection there, my guy.

ooger posted...

What do I think of who and who?

Getting some heavy
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/3/0/AAZ3HuAAEnZK.jpg
vibes from those names

deoxxys posted...

Rey personally isn't combative but it's a common personality trait of "strong female lead". Rey is pretty flawless. She doesn't need Luke's help to train in the force, and bests him.

Huh? How does she best Luke?

And I wouldn't say "flawless", unless you're talking strictly about combat ability (which is a superficial way of determining whether a character is "flawed").

A pretty prevalent theme with her throughout the entire trilogy is her struggling to find out who exactly she is (and then later coming to grips with it). In TFA, she initially rejects Anakin's lightsaber calling out to her because she's still obsessed with finding her missing family, an obsession that lasts all the way up until the end of TLJ. And in TRoS, she struggles with learning that she originates from a place of evil to the point where she briefly taps into the dark side by accident.

And even if she WAS flawless, this doesn't inherently make a story bad or even her character bad. Superman was literally created to represent the "perfect" man, and nobody cares.

deoxxys posted...

She also some how knows better than Han Solo how to fix his own millennium falcon. "I bypassed the compressor".

And as other posters have pointed out, Han Solo hadn't seen the ship in like 30 years and the Millennium Falcon had been heavily modified during that time.

The new trilogy was bad because it had no coherent vision.

Avirosb posted...

The new trilogy was bad because it had no coherent vision.

I agree with this. Rey wasn't really the problem with those movies.

Avirosb posted...

The new trilogy was bad because it had no coherent vision.

No, it was clearly because it went Woke!

Heineken14 posted...

Lotta projection there, my guy.

You bored, dude? Why do you keep bumping this topic? To the degree that you're willing to defend racism. Not a good look, my guy. lol

Am I supposed to know who either of these people are?

the0rebirth posted...

What on Earth would I be suspended for? Saying things you dont like? Jesus some of yall are fragile lol

he gone

Suspended for...what? Nice to see this site hasn't changed.

iCurious posted...

Suspended for...what? Nice to see this site hasn't changed.

Congrats on your 9th active post.

Critical Drinker reminds me of Synthetic Man. Synthetic Man is someone who "reviews" games and essentially only focuses on how "woke" something is.