Current Events > Boogie2988 fence sitting tweet goes viral

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https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1673849019234234369?s=46&t=o6tIkkSBRz2o_KdlCGVq5A

I know Boogie sometimes has some pretty trash takes, but honestly....what's wrong with this one?

I think it's fine for someone to have that opinion. There probably is some truth to it. Obviously, there were other major problems 150 years ago, but the aspect of growing up on a farm is probably very rewarding.

that fat fuck would probably break the fence if he sat on it.

Ninjaluver posted...

I know Boogie sometimes has some pretty trash takes, but honestly....what's wrong with this one?

I think it's fine for someone to have that opinion. There probably is some truth to it. Obviously, there were other major problems 150 years ago, but the aspect of growing up on a farm is probably very rewarding.

Because people aren't miserable because they can't work on a farm anymore. They're miserable because they're overworked and underpaid.

Not seeing where he is wrong here

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Because people aren't miserable because they can't work on a farm anymore. They're miserable because they're overworked and underpaid.

I don't think his tweet even disagrees with that second sentence? Part of working in a factory is being overworked and underpaid, which he's saying is worse than tending your own land.

MarthGoomba posted...

Not seeing where he is wrong here

Twitragers manufacture their own outrage.

This Boogie person seems unaware of both the date of the Industrial Revolution, and the fact that life expectancy was 40-45 back then.

So enjoy your time with your family. The ones you didn't lose to TB, polio, typhoid, septicaemia, or death in childbirth.

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Because people aren't miserable because they can't work on a farm anymore.

I'm honestly blown away that this is what some people are taking away from this.

Why does this tweet need to be placed on the political spectrum?

Where's the fence-sitting?

ai123 posted...

So enjoy your time with your family. The ones you didn't lose to TB, polio, typhoid, septicaemia, or death in childbirth.

Yeah, if we brought back more time with family and shortened hours away from home, we'd obviously have to start infecting people with typhoid fever and killing babies.

Everyone didnt work on a farm 150 years ago and as far as I know that you can work on a farm today if you have a notion to

GeraldDarko posted...

Why does this tweet need to be placed on the political spectrum?

Thats what Im wondering too

Ninjaluver posted...

I don't think his tweet even disagrees with that second sentence? Part of working in a factory is being overworked and underpaid, which he's saying is worse than tending your own land.

Yeah, but the way it's worded implies that the working in the office or in a factory is the bad part and not the "overworked/underpaid" part.

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Yeah, but the way it's worded implies that the working in the office or in a factory is the bad part and not the "overworked/underpaid" part.

So how many factory jobs do you reckon arent underpaid or overworked?

Jerry_Hellyeah posted...

Yeah, if we brought back more time with family and shortened hours away from home, we'd obviously have to start infecting people with typhoid fever and killing babies.

Not the point, as you well know.

Presenting the past as a pastoral idyll and neglecting to mention the negative aspects is both disingenuous and political. It's an appeal to traditionalism and regression. How were women and minorities treated in this golden age?

GeraldDarko posted...

Why does this tweet need to be placed on the political spectrum?

Seriously lol

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Yeah, but the way it's worded implies that the working in the office or in a factory is the bad part and not the "overworked/underpaid" part.

The two are intertwined. Being underpaid or overworked is part of working that type of job.

I think what's more telling is the people reacting to this tweet by interpreting it as this type of political messaging. It's like you guys look for this stuff, ready to pounce, so that's what you see.

Spoilers: People were miserable back then too.

I don't know how so many people who just choose to be miserable about everything continue to survive. Y'all are really reaching on this one.

It's badly framed but there's quite a lot of study going on about modern living and how we've lost community. Now an outrageous thought.

Children used to be raised by the entire village throughout nearly all of human history. At some point in the last 50-100 years we decided it was normal for children to only be raised by their parents.

i dont get it: so we're supposed move to rural areas and live off the land and shit?

i mean, not all of us can afford to buy our own farm and stuff...

I just woke up and read that real fast and thought it says fencing tweet, i was expecting some funny video of him
fencing

ai123 posted...

Presenting the past as a pastoral idyll and neglecting to mention the negative aspects is both disingenuous and political. It's an appeal to traditionalism and regression. How were women and minorities treated in this golden age?

I don't think that was the intention of the tweet though. Not in a "let's go back to 1875, where we lived to be 45, and every third kid we had died before they were 4, and women had no rights".

I think it was more to say how there was a much more sense of family and community, combined with truly being rewarded based off of how much effort you put in and not some corporate formula of what some faceless company feel you are "worth".

There were definitely factories, offices and warehouses 150 years ago. Not everyone lived on or worked on a farm.

bigblu89 posted...

I don't think that was the intention of the tweet though. Not in a "let's go back to 1875, where we lived to be 45, and every third kid we had died before they were 4, and women had no rights".

I think it was more to say how there was a much more sense of family and community, combined with truly being rewarded based off of how much effort you put in and not some corporate formula of what some faceless company feel you are "worth".

This is still an idealised view of the past which bears only a passing resemblance to the truth.

Dirt poor migrant agricultural workers were routinely exploited by wealthy farmers in the 1870s. What do you think their hours, pay, and conditions looked like?

The age where everyone lived in community, harmony, and were justly rewarded for their labour never existed. The appeal to traditionalism is founded on a lie.

Egghead Matt has no room to call other people dumb lol

pinky0926 posted...

It's badly framed but there's quite a lot of study going on about modern living and how we've lost community. Now an outrageous thought.

Children used to be raised by the entire village throughout nearly all of human history. At some point in the last 50-100 years we decided it was normal for children to only be raised by their parents.

Schools play a huge roll in raising a child.

ai123 posted...

This is still an idealised view of the past which bears only a passing resemblance to the truth.

Dirt poor migrant agricultural workers were routinely exploited by wealthy farmers in the 1870s. What do you think their hours, pay, and conditions looked like?

The age where everyone lived in community, harmony, and were justly rewarded for their labour never existed. The appeal to traditionalism is founded on a lie.

No one is saying you were wrong. We were just trying to interpret the tweet for those that didn't understand it.

Probably also helps that 150 years ago 25 percent of households had slave labor to free up their time.

Its not like an offensive tweet or anything but it is kind of dumb.

Ok

CE, the industrial revolution started 263 years ago (1760). So his statement, is already incorrect. Because 150 years ago, people were already working in factories, offices and warehouses and had been for over a century.

The majority of people that owned farms in the 1800's were rich slave owners. The common people worked their asses off and were plenty miserable.

But of course, this is just another Boogie topic by DarkPrince. Not sure why I bother commenting in these.

NoxObscuras posted...

CE, the industrial revolution started 263 years ago (1760). So his statement, is already incorrect. Because 150 years ago, people were already working in factories, offices and warehouses and had been for over a century.

The majority of people that owned farms in the 1800's were rich slave owners. The common people worked their asses off and were plenty miserable.

But of course, this is just another Boogie topic by DarkPrince. Not sure why I bother commenting in these.

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bigblu89 posted...

No one is saying you were wrong. We were just trying to interpret the tweet for those that didn't understand it.

Fair enough.

In the 1870s, if you owned enough to provide the resources for your family, you were OK. If you didn't, you weren't.

Same as now.

GeraldDarko posted...

Schools play a huge roll in raising a child.

We still place a huge burden on families to grow their own kids which is a pretty incredibly modern way of thinking, perhaps not for the better.

Think of single mothers. In a commune type situation, that woman can't catch a break. In an inner city, she will not have a day off for 20 years.

This is just some dumb ass pining for pre-industrial America, something Boogie literally never experienced and wouldn't know anything about.

I'm pretty sure Boogie would die of a heart attack if he started working on a farm.

someone would mistake him as one of the cows...