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No_U_L7 06/15/23 2:41:33 PM #1:	Open relationships Yes No Unsure (explain) Open relationships - Results (169 votes) Yes 23.67% (40 votes) 40 No 62.13% (105 votes) 105 Unsure (explain) 14.2% (24 votes) 24 Please discuss --- http://i.imgur.com/QPgN9 <cite>No_U_L7 posted [p:974178111] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote> Open relationships Yes No Unsure (explain) Vote View Results Open relationships - Results (169 votes) Yes 23.67% (40 votes) 40 No 62.13% (105 votes) 105 Unsure (explain) 14.2% (24 votes) 24 Show Voting Form function poll_vote() { var vote_option = $("input[name='poll_vote']:checked").val(); if(!vote_option) return; $.ajax({ type: 'POST', url: '/ajax/forum_poll_vote', data: { option: vote_option, board: '400', topic: '80478488', message: '0', key: 'ec3f9ae8' }, success: function(response) { if(response.error) { alert(response.error); } else { $("#poll_vote").hide(); $("#poll_results").html(response.html).show(); } } }); } function view_results_legacy() { $("#poll_vote").hide(); $("#poll_results").show(); } function hide_results_legacy() { $("#poll_results").hide(); $("#poll_vote").show(); } Please discuss</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 06/15/23 2:42:15 PM #2:	Keep the tip --- updated 5/22/2023 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1568-100-presidents <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:974178123] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>Keep the tip</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AnsestralRecall 06/15/23 2:43:19 PM #4:	They're fine if the people involved in them are clear and honest in their communication. They do, however, often result from one sided pressure exerted from a partner when the other doesn't want to be non-exclusive. <cite>AnsestralRecall posted [p:974178146] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>They're fine if the people involved in them are clear and honest in their communication. They do, however, often result from one sided pressure exerted from a partner when the other doesn't want to be non-exclusive. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem-man 06/15/23 2:43:55 PM #5:	Seems like a lot of work. I think I could handle it emotionally, but fuck. It's already a lot of work having a single partner. Aren't enough hours in the day to deal with all it would entail --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate <cite>emblem-man posted [p:974178160] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>Seems like a lot of work. I think I could handle it emotionally, but fuck. It's already a lot of work having a single partner. Aren't enough hours in the day to deal with all it would entail </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ninjaluver 06/15/23 2:45:53 PM #6:	I believe people should be allowed to have whatever type of relationship they want. I also believe open relationships are inherently doomed to fail, and that there almost al\ways exists an unbalanced power dynamic between the parties of an open relationship. One party is benefitting more than the other, which is exactly why they want an open relationship. The other party just gives in and goes along with it. <cite>Ninjaluver posted [p:974178200] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>I believe people should be allowed to have whatever type of relationship they want.I also believe open relationships are inherently doomed to fail, and that there almost al\ways exists an unbalanced power dynamic between the parties of an open relationship. One party is benefitting more than the other, which is exactly why they want an open relationship. The other party just gives in and goes along with it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheMikh 06/15/23 2:47:37 PM #7:	open relationships need to be open not just between the partners but known to the outside world, or else one of the partners can paint the other as a cheater the moment they get unhappy or jealous with that said though, most are untenable and have unhealthy dynamics under the surface --- http://i.imgur.com/A0TAfek.png <cite>TheMikh posted [p:974178237] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>open relationships need to be open not just between the partners but known to the outside world, or else one of the partners can paint the other as a cheater the moment they get unhappy or jealouswith that said though, most are untenable and have unhealthy dynamics under the surface</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrToothHasYou 06/15/23 2:50:20 PM #8:	I have an ex who is poly now and it seems to work for them so, I think its fine for some people. I dont know that Id be into an arrangement like that, though. --- (he/him) "The hopeless don't revolt, because revolution is an act of hope." <cite>MrToothHasYou posted [p:974178293] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>I have an ex who is poly now and it seems to work for them so, I think its fine for some people. I dont know that Id be into an arrangement like that, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YourBestFrenemy 06/15/23 2:52:16 PM #9:	InB4 all the fucking prudes come running to tell everyone else what they should/shouldn't be doing in their private lives. --- You punched me in the boob! Prepare to die, obviously! - Roxy Richter He/Him/His <cite>YourBestFrenemy posted [p:974178347] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>InB4 all the fucking prudes come running to tell everyone else what they should/shouldn't be doing in their private lives.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 06/15/23 2:52:58 PM #10:	You do you. If you can trust someone that much to be safe, then more power to you. --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. <cite>wackyteen posted [p:974178370] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>You do you. If you can trust someone that much to be safe, then more power to you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Swagger_Dagger 06/15/23 2:55:46 PM #11:	As long as they're happy and everyone is consenting, idgaf. --- http://i.imgur.com/f4hfI.jpg <cite>Swagger_Dagger posted [p:974178432] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>As long as they're happy and everyone is consenting, idgaf.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pnut027 06/15/23 2:56:20 PM #12:	Dont care tbh. --- https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/349629-politics-as-usual/80457156 Come visit <cite>pnut027 posted [p:974178442] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>Dont care tbh. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FolkenRawr 06/15/23 2:57:22 PM #13:	It's not for me, but Swagger_Dagger posted... As long as they're happy and everyone is consenting, idgaf. --- Cookin like a chef, I'm a 5 Star Michelin <cite>FolkenRawr posted [p:974178461] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>It's not for me, butSwagger_Dagger posted... </cite><quote>As long as they're happy and everyone is consenting, idgaf.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TaylorHeinicke 06/15/23 3:03:41 PM #14:	To each their own. If all parties are on board then why not --- St. Louis Battlehawks (7-3) <cite>TaylorHeinicke posted [p:974178606] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>To each their own. If all parties are on board then why not</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AloneIBreak 06/15/23 3:12:28 PM #15:	Personally not interested and dont want my partner to be, but otherwise none of my business. --- "Never confuse education with intelligence, you can have a PhD and still be an idiot." -Richard Feynman <cite>AloneIBreak posted [p:974178768] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>Personally not interested and dont want my partner to be, but otherwise none of my business. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
garan 06/15/23 3:28:01 PM #16:	Hell no. <cite>garan posted [p:974179038] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>Hell no.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Villain_S_Fiend 06/15/23 3:33:01 PM #17:	As long as everyone's a consenting adult that isn't being manipulated or exploited, then more power to them. I've been in open relationships in the past. In my experience, the big challenge is overcoming feelings of jealousy. It's natural when you're new to the dynamic, but if you can't shake it you're never going to accomplish a healthy relationship(s). --- The food here is terrible. My steak was so tough it attacked my coffee and the coffee was too weak to defend itself. <cite>Villain_S_Fiend posted [p:974179128] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>As long as everyone's a consenting adult that isn't being manipulated or exploited, then more power to them. I've been in open relationships in the past. In my experience, the big challenge is overcoming feelings of jealousy. It's natural when you're new to the dynamic, but if you can't shake it you're never going to accomplish a healthy relationship(s).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ar0ge 06/15/23 3:35:36 PM #18:	Not for me. But others can do whatever they want <cite>Ar0ge posted [p:974179175] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>Not for me. But others can do whatever they want </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Compsognathus 06/15/23 3:39:06 PM #19:	They are fine in theory but I don't think I've seen one that hasn't ended up super unhealthy and toxic. --- 1 line break(s), 160 characters allowed <cite>Compsognathus posted [p:974179243] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>They are fine in theory but I don't think I've seen one that hasn't ended up super unhealthy and toxic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pretzelcoatl 06/15/23 3:40:18 PM #21:	Don't care but I want nothing to do with it in my personal life. <cite>pretzelcoatl posted [p:974179269] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>Don't care but I want nothing to do with it in my personal life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 06/15/23 3:44:09 PM #22:	Not my thing at all. But more power to those that want to do that. So long as they leave my gf and I out of it. --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:974179344] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>Not my thing at all. But more power to those that want to do that. So long as they leave my gf and I out of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KeeperOfShadows 06/15/23 3:48:08 PM #23:	Too each their own. It's not for me. I'm too selfish for that. --- Currently playing: DFFOO, HonkaiStarRail <cite>KeeperOfShadows posted [p:974179434] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>Too each their own. It's not for me. I'm too selfish for that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
furb 06/15/23 3:50:03 PM #24:	I don't have the mental energy for that but people can do what they want. Not for me basically --- You know how fads are. Today it's brains, tomorrow, pierced tongues. Then the next day, pierced brains. -Jane Lane <cite>furb posted [p:974179473] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>I don't have the mental energy for that but people can do what they want.Not for me basically </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 06/15/23 3:50:18 PM #25:	I wouldnt have it any other way, but I know most people arent able to live that way <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:974179478] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>I wouldnt have it any other way, but I know most people arent able to live that way </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pezzicle 06/15/23 3:51:25 PM #26:	AnsestralRecall posted... They're fine if the people involved in them are clear and honest in their communication. They do, however, often result from one sided pressure exerted from a partner when the other doesn't want to be non-exclusive. --- stop victory lapping around your desk, your chair has rollers, it's not even really exercise <cite>pezzicle posted [p:974179505] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>AnsestralRecall posted... </cite><quote>They're fine if the people involved in them are clear and honest in their communication. They do, however, often result from one sided pressure exerted from a partner when the other doesn't want to be non-exclusive.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kamen_Rider_Blade 06/15/23 3:53:48 PM #27:	AnsestralRecall posted... They're fine if the people involved in them are clear and honest in their communication. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>Kamen_Rider_Blade posted [p:974179554] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>AnsestralRecall posted... </cite><quote>They're fine if the people involved in them are clear and honest in their communication.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 06/15/23 3:55:21 PM #28:	Ninjaluver posted... I believe people should be allowed to have whatever type of relationship they want. I also believe open relationships are inherently doomed to fail, and that there almost al\ways exists an unbalanced power dynamic between the parties of an open relationship. One party is benefitting more than the other, which is exactly why they want an open relationship. The other party just gives in and goes along with it. see, this is whats silly to me. Saying theyre inherently doomed to fail as if monogamous relationships arent as well <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:974179590] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>Ninjaluver posted... </cite><quote>I believe people should be allowed to have whatever type of relationship they want.I also believe open relationships are inherently doomed to fail, and that there almost al\ways exists an unbalanced power dynamic between the parties of an open relationship. One party is benefitting more than the other, which is exactly why they want an open relationship. The other party just gives in and goes along with it.</quote>see, this is whats silly to me. Saying theyre inherently doomed to fail as if monogamous relationships arent as well</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Priere 06/15/23 3:56:34 PM #29:	Cuckolds gonna cuck --- https://imgur.com/iQep35u https://i.imgur.com/PmX8smn.gif https://i.imgur.com/mwTy0iF.gif https://i.imgur.com/FCER80e.gif <cite>Priere posted [p:974179618] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>Cuckolds gonna cuck</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 06/15/23 4:39:08 PM #30:	Id rather not --- This post didn't exist to you until you read it. You willed it into existence in your psyche by choosing to observe it. Thats the power you have. Use it well. <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:974180491] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>Id rather not </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass 06/15/23 4:47:46 PM #31:	I don't care if people have one, but don't think I'd want one for myself. --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. <cite>Bass posted [p:974180645] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>I don't care if people have one, but don't think I'd want one for myself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cemith 06/15/23 4:49:32 PM #32:	Bass posted... I don't care if people have one, but don't think I'd want one for myself. I know exactly one open couple and it seems to work for them. And I know the husband and even though he sleeps with other women, he has steadfast rules that once feelings get involved, it's over. He's emotionally 100% committed to his wife. --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 <cite>Cemith posted [p:974180680] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>Bass posted... </cite><quote>I don't care if people have one, but don't think I'd want one for myself.</quote>I know exactly one open couple and it seems to work for them. And I know the husband and even though he sleeps with other women, he has steadfast rules that once feelings get involved, it's over. He's emotionally 100% committed to his wife. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nemu 06/15/23 4:50:24 PM #33:	Nothing I would ever be interested in. Im sure some people can make it work, but Id be willing to bet the majority of people go into it end up massively regretting it. <cite>Nemu posted [p:974180692] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>Nothing I would ever be interested in. Im sure some people can make it work, but Id be willing to bet the majority of people go into it end up massively regretting it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IceCreamOnStero 06/15/23 5:56:18 PM #35:	Every story I've heard of one inevitably ends with them blowing up --- Dokkan ID: 2365415872 <cite>IceCreamOnStero posted [p:974182004] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>Every story I've heard of one inevitably ends with them blowing up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ubergeneral3 06/15/23 6:00:06 PM #36:	I was living in a house with that was with a polyamorous couple. It was two non-birnary people married and one trans women that was the girlfriend. I don't think the situation was good polyamory, I felt out of the loop and eventually was asked to leave the house. It ended with me losing a bunch of friendships and the married couple getting a divorce. Am I against poly relationships, no not at all. But for me I felt that in this case it wasn't right. My friend went online looking for a girlfriend, this was the night they got home from the honeymoon too. I feels like, they just aren't ever satisfyed, or at least wait a bit. So I really don't know. I got out of that situation, and feel jaded after being in that mess. I don't know anyone else that is poly so I have no other way to gauge what a healthy poly relationship looks like. --- Guillotine/Gulag 2020. You didn't vote Bernie now pay the price. Eat the Rich <cite>Ubergeneral3 posted [p:974182072] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>I was living in a house with that was with a polyamorous couple. It was two non-birnary people married and one trans women that was the girlfriend. I don't think the situation was good polyamory, I felt out of the loop and eventually was asked to leave the house. It ended with me losing a bunch of friendships and the married couple getting a divorce. Am I against poly relationships, no not at all. But for me I felt that in this case it wasn't right. My friend went online looking for a girlfriend, this was the night they got home from the honeymoon too. I feels like, they just aren't ever satisfyed, or at least wait a bit. So I really don't know. I got out of that situation, and feel jaded after being in that mess. I don't know anyone else that is poly so I have no other way to gauge what a healthy poly relationship looks like. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
garan 06/15/23 6:04:26 PM #37:	IceCreamOnStero posted... Every story I've heard of one inevitably ends with them blowing up Same. <cite>garan posted [p:974182144] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>IceCreamOnStero posted...</cite><quote>Every story I've heard of one inevitably ends with them blowing up</quote>Same.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 06/15/23 6:05:38 PM #38:	Every relationship either ends with people breaking up or death I never got why people look at open relationships or polyamorous relationships and say theyre destined for failure. life and relationships are about the journey, not just the destination <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:974182158] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>Every relationship either ends with people breaking up or death I never got why people look at open relationships or polyamorous relationships and say theyre destined for failure. life and relationships are about the journey, not just the destination</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Beefbud 06/15/23 6:06:17 PM #39:	For me the only way it makes sense is if you're dating someone long distance. --- Backlog: http://backloggery.com/melatonin Music: https://zplan.bandcamp.com/ <cite>Beefbud posted [p:974182175] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>For me the only way it makes sense is if you're dating someone long distance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoBlazer 06/15/23 6:42:15 PM #40:	I'm non-monogomous and not jealous. I've wanted to open relationships in the past but my partners haven't been as interested. Even in relationships that are unambiguously started as casual hookups, I've had people develop feelings and become jealous and hurt when I won't commit to them. I don't think there's anything morally wrong with open relationships in general - assuming they are built on a foundation of honest communication - but even when given those assumptions, I think most people naturally yearn for commitment and will just wind up getting hurt. --- Burnin, Blazin <cite>YoBlazer posted [p:974182860] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>I'm non-monogomous and not jealous. I've wanted to open relationships in the past but my partners haven't been as interested. Even in relationships that are unambiguously started as casual hookups, I've had people develop feelings and become jealous and hurt when I won't commit to them. I don't think there's anything morally wrong with open relationships in general - assuming they are built on a foundation of honest communication - but even when given those assumptions, I think most people naturally yearn for commitment and will just wind up getting hurt. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BloodMoon7 06/15/23 6:44:32 PM #41:	Still couldn't get any. --- My maid will hear about this. <cite>BloodMoon7 posted [p:974182901] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>Still couldn't get any.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Payzmaykr 06/15/23 6:48:42 PM #42:	Not for me <cite>Payzmaykr posted [p:974182954] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>Not for me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 06/15/23 7:32:50 PM #43:	That's up to the individual couple --- But I'd trade all my tomorrows, for a single yesterday <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:974183794] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>That's up to the individual couple</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CE_gonna_CE 06/15/23 7:33:48 PM #44:	If it works it works --- https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1531-food-delivery-services-general <cite>CE_gonna_CE posted [p:974183812] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>If it works it works </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 06/15/23 8:10:40 PM #45:	People can do what they want Though, I would never be in one personally If I were single, I would mind having sex with a couple. But Id never open my own relationship Ubergeneral3 posted... lI don't think the situation was good polyamory, I felt out of the loop and eventually was asked to leave the house. They made you leave? --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:974184556] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>People can do what they want Though, I would never be in one personally If I were single, I would mind having sex with a couple. But Id never open my own relationshipUbergeneral3 posted...</cite><quote>lI don't think the situation was good polyamory, I felt out of the loop and eventually was asked to leave the house. </quote>They made you leave?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AnimeGokuIAM 06/15/23 8:35:07 PM #46:	One girl I dated wanted an open relationship, all she wanted to do was sleep around with other people and she wanted me to be cool with it. I said fuck that shit and bailed out of that relationship so fast. --- http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c381/ShinGokuIAM/rkowindow.gif <cite>AnimeGokuIAM posted [p:974185020] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>One girl I dated wanted an open relationship, all she wanted to do was sleep around with other people and she wanted me to be cool with it. I said fuck that shit and bailed out of that relationship so fast.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordOfTheCats 06/15/23 8:37:40 PM #47:	Not something I'm interested in, and I would want my hypothetical partner to also be monogamous. That being said, open relationships are fine if all parties involved are open and honest with each other. Live and let live, I say. <cite>LordOfTheCats posted [p:974185069] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>Not something I'm interested in, and I would want my hypothetical partner to also be monogamous.That being said, open relationships are fine if all parties involved are open and honest with each other. Live and let live, I say. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YourBestFrenemy 06/15/23 8:44:20 PM #48:	Holy shit, refreshing to see people being open-minded about it, (even if it isn't for them personally). That other topic for sure had me thinking this one would turn into a preachy fuck-fest. Nice! --- You punched me in the boob! Prepare to die, obviously! - Roxy Richter He/Him/His <cite>YourBestFrenemy posted [p:974185203] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>Holy shit, refreshing to see people being open-minded about it, (even if it isn't for them personally). That other topic for sure had me thinking this one would turn into a preachy fuck-fest.Nice!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 06/15/23 9:48:33 PM #49:	I've never really had a chance to be in one and I don't think I want to. Although relationships are kind of alien to me so I probably don't need to think about it. ENM is pretty popular here though, I imagine there are places where it's less common. --- updated 5/22/2023 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1568-100-presidents <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:974186480] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>I've never really had a chance to be in one and I don't think I want to. Although relationships are kind of alien to me so I probably don't need to think about it. ENM is pretty popular here though, I imagine there are places where it's less common. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
solosnake 06/15/23 10:04:43 PM #50:	its what people used to call fwb --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade <cite>solosnake posted [p:974186789] in What is yo... [t:80478488]...</cite> <quote>its what people used to call fwb</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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